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Parabellum

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Hey,

I am looking to replace my i7 860 with a i7 2600K. The later one has been out for a good while now and still at the same price. Upgrading now wouldm't make sense but I would like to know what is ahead of us in short term. New CPUs, platform, price cuts?

Thanks,

Serge
 
In a few weeks i7 2700K clocked 100 MHz higher with the same 95W TDP. Rumors are that it will be priced more and overclock better. Then in 4 to 6 months ivy bridge lga1155 processors should be available. I do not see these being way faster than the i7 2700K but they will have better on die GPUs and use even less power. I can see a 65W 4 core 8 threaded processor being a possibility. In a month or so lga2011 will be around to replace lga1366 extreme end. These will be 130W TDP or greater CPUs that are 6 core 12 threads and eventually 8 core 16 threads all on a quad channel ram platform with 40 lanes of PCIe instead of the dual channel and 16 lanes of PCIe that lga1155 has.
 
Eh thanks. Looks like that if I upgrade now it will be safe still for a while. What should we expect from LGA2011 in term of performance?
 
What should we expect from LGA2011 in term of performance?
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It will be quite a bit better that AMD or Intel's lga1155 if you need more than 6 threads. Or you need more than 16 GB of memory or 3+ high end graphics cards. However for most users (especially gamers) this will be an expensive overkill. There are some early benchmarks for both ivy-bridge and lga2011 (SB-E). Also AMD should release a competitor to the i7 2600 soon. This will be the 8150 FX 125W TDP part. I expect performance of that to be around the i7 2600 for less than 5 threads (because of the 4.2 GHz turbo) and a little better with more than 5 threads.
 
Are any of these expected to be significantly faster than SB per core? I find myself constantly wishing for more CPU power in several single-threaded games I play, since it basically dictates how fast the game time run or how long you have to wait inbetween turns. Good old Master of Orion 3 is taking several minutes to process a single turn even on my [email protected]; that really limits the playability. An overclocked 2500K or something would obviously do me good, but I'm hoping something even faster will be out within the next months.
 
Are any of these expected to be significantly faster than SB per core?
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SB-E will not be significantly faster per core. BD will most likely be significantly slower per core at the same clock but it will have higher clocks via the more aggressive turbo so it should compete modules versus i7 cores. ivy-bridge may be a little faster per core, however Intel is deliberately limiting the performance of lga1155 so not to compete with lga2011 at all. If BD is competitive this may change.
 
There are no lga1155 chips that are > than 95W. Intel could easily have a 4GHz SB 4 core / 8 threaded chip that fits under 130W. To this point there has been no competition from AMD and releasing this would eat into 980X and 990X sales. There will not be any 6 core chips on lga1155 now and most likely will never be. The initial ivy-brige is keeps the 95W limit and focuses more on reducing the power draw and increasing GPU performance more than increasing CPU performance.
 
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Parabellum said:
Hey,

I am looking to replace my i7 860 with a i7 2600K. The later one has been out for a good while now and still at the same price. Upgrading now wouldm't make sense but I would like to know what is ahead of us in short term. New CPUs, platform, price cuts?

Thanks,

Serge
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Wait, you have an i7 860 and you want to upgrade? I've contemplated this time and time again, but honestly you should just save you money and at least wait until the next generation comes out. No point in upgrading to the next generation.

This coming from an i7 870 user.
 
When is the i7 2700k coming out? - was it 27th oct? or 14 nov? (starting to get all these dates mixed up).
Also any idea on pricing? ... is the only thing different the potential higher clocks with ocing?

btw if going with a 2700k whats the best mb to go with ... I already have a SSD so wondering if I still need a z68 or not.
 
I'd hold off -- the i7 860 is a fantastic chip points to sig .

And honestly, at this point in the game, I think it's best to wait for Ivy-Bridge or go with a 6 core Sandy Bridge E.
 
Skillz said:
Wait, you have an i7 860 and you want to upgrade? I've contemplated this time and time again, but honestly you should just save you money and at least wait until the next generation comes out. No point in upgrading to the next generation.

This coming from an i7 870 user.
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You are right for sure. But I am tempted by those 4+ GHz overclock and i usually like to upgrade while my stuff still worths something to alleviate the move.
 
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