Business build (best bang for buck with some power)

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I'm looking to build a business system for myself. I have done my homework as far as hardware goes and have a fairly good idea what I need.

The system will be used for heavy multitasking in a business environment...ie. many browser windows open, many programs open(email, excel, ACCPAC on server). I want the system to be fast under these conditions. There will be no gaming done on this system.

I will be running 2 monitors on windows 7 pro. Below is a list of the components I was thinking. I am unsure however, which AMD CPU would be ideal for these conditions...any advice would be greatly appreciated. Best bang for buck ...ie. is 6 core overkill?? is 3 core good value for me?? Anthon, Phenon, w/L3 or without......etc

Heres my list:

Case, PSU = Antec SonataIV w/ 620W PSU ($109.99)

Motherboard = Gigabyte GA-870A-USB3 ($89.99)

CPU = ???

Mem = G. Skill Ripjaw X 8GB DDR3 (4x2) ($69.99)

Video Card = Asus EN210 512MB (39.99 less $15 mail in rebate)

DVDRW= $20

SSD= OCX 60GB (OCZSSD2-1VTXPL60G) (69.99 less $10 mail in) (for op system)

HD= Seagate Barracuda 500GB (39.99)



Again, any CPU advice or other recomendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Mike
 
It would help if you answered the stickied "ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS FIRST!" so that we can help you better.

Though right off the bat:
- Ditch that SSD: It's low price for a reason: It's of low quality, low reliability/stability, low performance, and backed by a company with relatively poor customer service. If you want a reliable and good quality SSD, I recommend this:
$115 - Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SSD

- Where are you seeing the Sonata IV for $110?

- This Samsung drive is actually faster than that Seagate:
$60 - Samsung Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

- That RAM is stupidly overpriced. Go with this RAM instead:
$48 - G.Skill Ripjaws F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333 RAM
 
1) Answered above
2)Budget....whatever I need to spend to get what I require without wasting money for overkill
3)Ontario CAN
4)Answered above
5) not reusing an parts
6)Overclocking....possible if it is worthwhile...but no an absolute requirement
7)Will be getting 2 standard 23" monitors at some point
8)As soon as I know what to get ASAP
9)Motherboard features...maybe usb 3 ..thats bout it
10)Windows 7 Pro...will purchase

Thanks for the info Danny. Any CPU advice would be great and thanks for the SSD reccomend!
The Antec Sonata is an in store special at a local Canada Computers store..was in there today...good deal. Thanks again.
 
I notice the samsung drive you highlighted is 3gb/s compared to 6gb/s on the seagate yet they are both 7200rpm. Would the SATA 6g/s not be faster?? PS Not questioning you expertise because it is much greater than min...just trying to figure this out..lol Thx
 
A mechanical drive cant read write fast enough for Sata 3G, let alone Sata 6G. So its more a marketing hype, or it will depend on what ports you have available (if using a lot). Go with the samsung, if you can justify the price difference.
 
As an office build any amd cpu can do. The x3's are very cheap. The x4's are good for video but consumer lots of power. The more expensive dual core amd's will perform well but it's just dual core.

when i did my research for biz build i ended up looking at i3's. low power consumption! Then i said, might as well get i5, which i'm still pricing and spec'ing out
 
studes said:
I notice the samsung drive you highlighted is 3gb/s compared to 6gb/s on the seagate yet they are both 7200rpm. Would the SATA 6g/s not be faster?? PS Not questioning you expertise because it is much greater than min...just trying to figure this out..lol Thx
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In the case of mechanically spinning hard drives, the sustainable sequential transfer rate of the disks themselves is the limiting factor. Even the fastest of the mechanical hard drives can barely deliver 60 percent of the maximum practical transfer speed of even a SATA 3.0 Gbps interface (which, by the way, is not 300 MB/s - but only about 270-ish MB/s). This means that the fastest mechanical hard drives can sustain only 160-ish MB/s on the outer tracks.
 
i would ditch the nvidia gpu and go with an amd gpu. as for the cpu, spend whatever is left in your budget. any dual core pii and up should be fine, but if you have the extra money go quad.
 
Thanks for the input everyone......great info.

Re: hcc_tech
Which AMD would u recommend? Should I go with 1gb or is that overkill for my application?
Do u think I'm on the right track as far as the motherboard goes for my application? Or should i go to a lower or higher quality mobo Thx again hcc.
 
Regardless of specs, I strongly recommend for business use - For the love of g-d -
Don't use whiteboxes !!
Go with brand machines and don't overclock at all.
Reliability is above all - You don't want to be wasting time aka loosing money on urgent project because your pc has hardware issue.

Acer Veriton series machines have very good value and still quality built.
 
I assume you mean a self build system of mix and match components. Are whiteboxes less reliable on average?? Even if quality components are used?
 
studes said:
I assume you mean a self build system of mix and match components. Are whiteboxes less reliable on average?? Even if quality components are used?
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No. The issue with whiteboxes is if you built them, and they break, you have nobody to push the responsibility of fixing them on. Once you've had the machine long enough that components start falling out of warranty, it can become very difficult to get back up and running without reinstalling the OS when something fails. You're getting this computer to do work on, but when something breaks you'll be fixing it instead of getting work done.
If you get a business machine from a company like Dell, it comes with a warranty. When something on it breaks, they're responsible for fixing it, and you can keep working on another computer.
 
RavenD said:
No. The issue with whiteboxes is if you built them, and they break, you have nobody to push the responsibility of fixing them on. Once you've had the machine long enough that components start falling out of warranty, it can become very difficult to get back up and running without reinstalling the OS when something fails. You're getting this computer to do work on, but when something breaks you'll be fixing it instead of getting work done.
If you get a business machine from a company like Dell, it comes with a warranty. When something on it breaks, they're responsible for fixing it, and you can keep working on another computer.
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a) Whiteboxes is common term to custom built machines (10 years ago most cases sold there beige)

b) That (@RavenD) , but I also meant to say than even most high quality components will not always be 100% compatible with each other - typically brand business machines are built to be very stable.

It is of-course very possible to get stability in a whitebox, but chances what something small could be an issue down the road and you could be wasting a lot of time fixing it instead of making money
 
RavenD said:
If you get a business machine from a company like Dell, it comes with a warranty. When something on it breaks, they're responsible for fixing it, and you can keep working on another computer.
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QFT

Also why aren't you looking at integrated graphics? Just get a board with two digital outputs (HDMI, DVI, or DisplayPort)

I would also suggest considering an Intel Core i3-2100 or Core i5-2400 for a system like this, whether you build it yourself or buy it.
 
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