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Andy735

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My girlfriend is looking at all in one desktops and I have noticed you can get E-350 systems pretty cheap. I am guessing that they will be fine for Facebook creeping and the general college work my girlfriend does but would value anyone’s experience. My only concern would be in the same price range sometimes you can get high clock Pentium Dual Core (Not in the all in one form factor). Would they be a much better choice?
 
I love my E350 netbook. Doesn't have any problems with anything I try to do with that. Its similar (but superior) to a dual-core Atom with Ion graphics. If thats what you want, its great. It will even play some games decently- League of Legends, Starcraft 2 runs well until you get to the really big late-game battles. No complaints. I love it and the battery life is awesome.
 
They're cheap, but I would not recommend one as your only system.
There *are* things it can't do, and while its low power consumption makes for marvelous netbooks, I would not want to depend on it for all my computing needs.
 
for internet and facebook usage(including the stupid flash games) its perfect. unless shes doing cad or video editing there isn't going to be anything the E-350 can't do... also take a look at the llano A6 all in ones. those are very nice as well and priced pretty good.
 
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I built a E-350 SFF HTPC recently. I mainly wanted it for internet browsing on TV and watching videos (youtube, netflix, etc). It works great for those uses. It briefly tried it on gaming and it worked surprisingly well (played Defense Grid at 1920x1080 and medium settings) considering the entire machine uses less than 30w full load as per Kill-A-Watt. I got the MSI E350IS-E45 along with a 64GB MicroCenter SSD and 4GB DDR3 in a Thermaltake Element Q case. Any of the all-in-one machines ought to have nealry identical performance. I got the Mini ITX so I can add a Blu-Ray drive and possibly a CableCard adapter at a later time.
 
I have an E-240 netbook (single core, 1.5ghz) and it plays about 1/4 of my steam games OK at medium to low settings @ 1366x768 or lower....Even trine gets about 20fps @ 800x600/low

I was pleasantly surprised...
 
i have a e-350 system it sits next to my entertainment system.

its a custom build. Went with a custom case to install a blue ray drive and have some room to expand if needed.

I haven't bothered to play any games on it, but guests and myself can surf the net, do netflix, you tube, and other things. Everyone thinks its blazing fast, prolly because i installed a SSD in it. Then again these are the non techie types such as girl friend and other friends.
 
Nice , i purchased a HP Dm1 3200 (netbook), it has a 7200 rpm drive in it is pretty fast as well. Still have to install Linux on it.

Can't complain about the speed, after I installed 11.6 catalyst I saw that the sliders were still on 800mhz :) so I adjusted that part.
 
sound like im in for alot of fun i wonder if it will be able to play the old republic at any sort of level...

The system requirements are pretty tame if the rumor is true

the minimal system requirements
OSWindows XP, Vista/7 CPUAMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4000+ or better · Intel Core 2 Duo Processor 2.0GHz or better
RAMWindows XP: 1.5GB
Windows Vista and Windows 7: 2GB ·
PCs using a built-in graphical chipset, 2GB RAM recommended. VideoATI X1800 or better* · nVidia 7800 or better* · Intel 4100 Integrated Graphics or better*
DVD-ROM8x or better *Minimum of 256MB of on-board RAM and Shader 3.0 or better support.
 
My x120e came standard with a 2.5" wd black drive. can't complain about that. With the apu, the linux fglrx driver works great. The netbook can connect to _2_ external monitors at the same time (one hdmi, one vga) and use them both if you turn off the x120e display. It also can charge usb powered devices (such as your phone, blackberry, etc) while off with the side USB port. The middle mouse button is fantastic for paste inside linux.

The only downside is the single core......if I didn't pay just $240 for it, I would have much preferred the dual core. Windows update pegs this thing out like no other......
 
Robstar said:
My x120e came standard with a 2.5" wd black drive. can't complain about that. With the apu, the linux fglrx driver works great. The netbook can connect to _2_ external monitors at the same time (one hdmi, one vga) and use them both if you turn off the x120e display. It also can charge usb powered devices (such as your phone, blackberry, etc) while off with the side USB port. The middle mouse button is fantastic for paste inside linux.

The only downside is the single core......if I didn't pay just $240 for it, I would have much preferred the dual core. Windows update pegs this thing out like no other......
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i paid 345 shipped direct from toshiba for my e-350 laptop and so far im very happy with it... the battery lasts a really long time im on 3.5 hours of my second charge with 57% left and it says it will go another 3 hours...
 
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Have an e350 htpc (sig). It's great for surfing and media (other than HD Netflix, until they enable hardware accel in the planned Silverlight 5 release) and light gaming (Lego SW and the like for the kids at 720p). Still no drivers supporting video accel in Linux, if that matters to you.
Some boards overclock to nearly 2GHz and it makes a difference. I wish my board had the bios to do so.
 
For the same price as an E350 motherboard you can pick up a Sempron, motherboard, and discrete videocard. I see no real reason to go E350 over that unless you absolutely need the lowest power draw you can.

If you need the AIO thing then just get a small case and strap it to the back of the monitor or something.
 
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For the same price as an E350 motherboard you can pick up a Sempron, motherboard, and discrete videocard. I see no real reason to go E350 over that unless you absolutely need the lowest power draw you can.

If you need the AIO thing then just get a small case and strap it to the back of the monitor or something.
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you missed the point most of these are not in desktop solutions they are in netbooks and laptops...
 
For the same price as an E350 motherboard you can pick up a Sempron, motherboard, and discrete videocard. I see no real reason to go E350 over that unless you absolutely need the lowest power draw you can.

If you need the AIO thing then just get a small case and strap it to the back of the monitor or something
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Interesting, but no the E-350 is literally the best your going to get sub 300$ Have you even looked at the Am3 ITX boards? they are expensive.

To do some math the Sempron system is TWICE as expensive for comparable performance.

E-350 = 100-120$
Sempron + ITX mobo+ video card dx 11= 200+

Not to mention it is like 3-4 times more power efficent
 
Skip ITX - go mATX and it is doable.
Semp 130, motherboard, low profile HD5450 = $90
 
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a semp 130 is 40$ a 5450 is 40-50$ with out even a motherboard you at 90$.

Sure you can build one cheap but point is it will never be as cheap as the e-350, nor as power efficient NOR in a smaller form factor.


your comparing apples to eggplant.

Your trying to compare a budget desktop, to a budget small form factor or All in one.

Talking about drawing 100-150watts of juice vs 20-30watts.

I fail to see your argument on how your option is better. What task will be noticeable faster with your setup? better hd playback?, nah, faster web browsing ? nah, better gaming? sure slightly, worth the higher price, larger form factor, and more power drawn? nah

don't knock the e-350 platform its a great little platform for what it was made for.
 
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Minus MIR = $90, spend $10 on a HSF making you equal to the cheapest MIR'd E350 on newegg.

I'm not sure where you're getting 100-150w out of that, mine draws 31w. If you decide down the line that it's not fast enough you can drop a Phenom in it for a cheap upgrade, kinda screwed with upgrading the E350.

But alright, I concede. I was not a fan of my E350 when I had it. I can see their usage when you have no extra space, have a portable form factor (netbook), or some other odd requirement but for a desktop it doesn't really make sense.
 
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I can echo the results with the e350 from above.. To compare it to a comparable priced intel system you loose in CPU, but gain in GPU so its a +/- thing really..

Personally though I think I find more that is GPU limited then CPU limited. & With an SSD the e350's dont really feel limited by CPU either..
 
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Minus MIR = $90, spend $10 on a HSF making you equal to the cheapest MIR'd E350 on newegg.
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Your missing a cooler, not to mention that an e350 would be faster.. Also cheapest e350 is 97 shipped on newegg compared to your 107 shipped without a cooler still. & When you add ram the extra 20 dollar premium you pay for 4gb ddr2 over faster ddr3 will widen the gap much more..

Edit: 157 shipped vs 117 shipped Kind of a no brainer really..
 
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I'm not very impressed by the e350 for desktop use, for my server it works good.

I have the ASUS E35M1-M PRO in my WHS v1. Before I loaded WHS on it, I installed Win 7 to test it out. I had an SSD and 8GB of ram while testing. It's not as zippy on webpages as I was hoping. I would spend a few dollars more and get a real CPU and MB for a desktop.
 
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Your missing a cooler, not to mention that an e350 would be faster.. Also cheapest e350 is 97 shipped on newegg compared to your 107 shipped without a cooler still. & When you add ram the extra 20 dollar premium you pay for 4gb ddr2 over faster ddr3 will widen the gap much more..

Edit: 157 shipped vs 117 shipped Kind of a no brainer really..
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So what you're saying is that if you built yourself a computer that would be your one and only computer and would be a desktop on a very tight budget you'd be buying an E350? Even though it has no future upgrade path?
 
After re-reading the original post, if I was building a PC on a tight budget, FOR SOMEONE ELSE, that did not game and only web surfed, emails, Word, etc, then yes, I would go with an E-350.

For me, I doubt I am ever down to one PC again. My budget isnt that tight.
 
I have one for my Media PC and it works great. I can play 1080P stuff through VLC or MPC no problem. When I have LAN parties, I even use it as a gaming PC. It can't run much at max settings, but it's fine with TF2 at medium settings.
 
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I can echo the results with the e350 from above.. To compare it to a comparable priced intel system you loose in CPU, but gain in GPU so its a +/- thing really..

Personally though I think I find more that is GPU limited then CPU limited. & With an SSD the e350's dont really feel limited by CPU either..
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Really? Comparable Intel is the dual core Atom with Nvidia ION, and the E350 is faster in BOTH CPU and GPU in that comparison.
 
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So what you're saying is that if you built yourself a computer that would be your one and only computer and would be a desktop on a very tight budget you'd be buying an E350? Even though it has no future upgrade path?
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As an Enthusiast I would also say that buying a dated single core CPU with DDR2 & an nvidia chipset would definitely give you an upgrade path.. as in you need to upgrade now..

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Really? Comparable Intel is the dual core Atom with Nvidia ION, and the E350 is faster in BOTH CPU and GPU in that comparison.
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Depends on what you consider comparable.. If your basing it off of product segments then yes an atom is comparable.. But cost wise an atom is typically cheaper.. For example of you go to newegg & go to laptops & sort by lowest price.. The cheapest e350 laptop is 429 dollars.. Same price point for an intel you get a Intel Pentium T4500 (2.30GHz) which although I have not seen a direct comparison on paper of I would be willing to wager has alot more processing power then the e350.. If you look in netbooks then the d525 atoms start at about 400 & the e350's start at 445ish so there is a fair margin of difference in price there..
 
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As an Enthusiast I would also say that buying a dated single core CPU with DDR2 & an nvidia chipset would definitely give you an upgrade path.. as in you need to upgrade now..
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+1 ( I wonder if its as powerful than the E-350/D525 Ion stuff)
 
have the HP E-350 net/notebook as well, i'd say the E-350 would be perfect for what you want here.
 
I just finished a E350 HTPC built w/ Windows 7 and I have to say.. It's fast...
 
Ruiner said:
Have an e350 htpc (sig). It's great for surfing and media (other than HD Netflix, until they enable hardware accel in the planned Silverlight 5 release) and light gaming (Lego SW and the like for the kids at 720p). Still no drivers supporting video accel in Linux, if that matters to you.
Some boards overclock to nearly 2GHz and it makes a difference. I wish my board had the bios to do so.
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Really? what mobo? I haven't found one that overclocks to 1.8ghz much less 2
 
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+1 ( I wonder if its as powerful than the E-350/D525 Ion stuff)
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a sempron + 5450 would beat an atom+ion or E350 up, no question. Plus you'd get the chance of unlocking to dual core if you spent like 5 bucks more on a mobo, which I think is the weak area of Chibo's particular combo. Still, I'd probably just go for the E-350 and put it in an SFF case to minimize footprint. Women love that shit.
 
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a sempron + 5450 would beat an atom+ion or E350 up, no question. Plus you'd get the chance of unlocking to dual core if you spent like 5 bucks more on a mobo, which I think is the weak area of Chibo's particular combo. Still, I'd probably just go for the E-350 and put it in an SFF case to minimize footprint. Women love that shit.
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So I had a sempron & a 5550.. As well as an e350.. Si U Say show me bench's to make that claim..

The 5450 better graphics in Most (not all) games as opposed to the 6310 on the e350, but certainly not all.. And to compare apples to apples with price you would have to compare the sempron with onboard video against the e350 since you could still throw a discrete card in it..

Now the sempron vs e350 is a tossup.. You have what is undoubtedly a fairly fast single core with a possibility of unlocking (if you have the right board & get lucky) comprised of aging technology with a latest gen low power chip.. I have yet to find any direct comparisons done by anything legit, but I can only say that I have used both and the e350 was the snappier machine..

When you start talking about actually building either the cost difference would be better spent into other parts of a budget system either way you slice it.. Hell at this point the 40 dollar savings could be used to sub the cheapest mechanical drive for a low end SSD (The cheapest mechanical drive on newegg is 40 bucks & for 60 AR you can get a 60gb SSD now)..
 
We got my wife one of those HP dm1z notebooks that has an E-350 in it. She doesn't play games, and for everything we have tried to do with it it has worked great. We even plug it into the TV sometimes and use it to stream videos. I'd say for a girlfriend who is only going to do Office/Web/Facebook/Videos an E-350 system would be great.
 
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We got my wife one of those HP dm1z notebooks that has an E-350 in it. She doesn't play games, and for everything we have tried to do with it it has worked great. We even plug it into the TV sometimes and use it to stream videos. I'd say for a girlfriend who is only going to do Office/Web/Facebook/Videos an E-350 system would be great.
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Got the same notebook for my fiance a few weeks back. It is plenty powerful for her needs with decent battery life too. She is able to play WoW and Sins of a Solar Empire on it without problems if the settings are turned down. I definitely second the DM1z recommendation
 
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