New Netflix Restriction: One Stream Per Customer

Great things never last. I suspended my account. They are losing starz streaming and come to think of it 1/2 of the streaming content I liked was from starz. I'm gonna wait and see what blockbuster launches for streaming. When my account suspension is due to end in 2 months more than likely I'll be cancelling my service. The only thing that can stop me is if netflix comes to their senses in the next 2 months from all the cancellations and loss of revenue and goes back to the way they were. I'm not expecting that so more than likely another long term customer they will lose. Not that they care it seems :rolleyes:
 
You guys need to look again this article has been updated it was reported incorrectly. You can stream 2 at a time and that has been how its been for a long time , Hulu is the same way...
 
According to the updates on the article on Arstechnica, they have now said that two streams are allowed with streaming only, and with DVD plans, you get the number of streams as you get number of discs out, plus one. So, two disc plan = 3 streams.
 
A whole bunch of whiners in here.

This is not unreasonable at all. How many high school classmate "families" share one netflix code? You want to have two streaming movies at once, get the plan that allows it.



The price increase is reasonable too. It's all you can fucking eat buffet for a while month for under $10. If you can't afford that you need to be out looking for a better job than watching TV.
Their cost for the shows we watch is going up over 10X. Our price increase is a helluva smaller than that.
 
Still cheaper to pay for Netflix and actually buy seasons of DVDs of the shows they don't carry than to subscribe to cable.
 
If their streaming actually reached full quality for the few titles that even support it, it might be worth it.

But, it's not. They are VERY inconsistent in their availabilities, also.
 
was visiting my nephew, he suggests we watch some netflix on his xbox. apparently his ex-girlfriends (3 years back) code was still in the box.
 
This goes well with Netflix's mission of making their customers pay more for less. :rolleyes:
 
I have the stream only plan and last I checked I could do as many as I wanted.
 
robble said:
A whole bunch of whiners in here.

This is not unreasonable at all. How many high school classmate "families" share one netflix code? You want to have two streaming movies at once, get the plan that allows it.



The price increase is reasonable too. It's all you can fucking eat buffet for a while month for under $10. If you can't afford that you need to be out looking for a better job than watching TV.
Their cost for the shows we watch is going up over 10X. Our price increase is a helluva smaller than that.
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In the future, please refrain from using logic in support of your argument, it's un-American.
 
Netflix's Vice President of Corporate Communications says that, contrary to earlier reports, customers are not limited to a single stream....even though his own company (and the error code below) says differently.

“No Netflix member is limited to less than two concurrent streams,” said Netflix Vice President of Corporate Communications Steve Swasey, in an email to GigaOm. “A few Netflix members have heard differently from us, which is an error that we are correcting.”
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I doubt this is Netflix making a decision all on their own.

They are probably under threat of legal action from movie studios to make this happen.

I hate movie studios.
 
I'd give Netflix the benefit of the doubt if not for the trail of fail they've left in their business decisions the last three months. Ugh... It is sad to see how far they've fallen.
 
According to the updates on the article on Arstechnica, they have now said that two streams are allowed with streaming only, and with DVD plans, you get the number of streams as you get number of discs out, plus one. So, two disc plan = 3 streams.
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This can't be right. Without a streaming plan, you can't stream. So 1 Disc out = no streaming, which is why everyone was upset. So they're either quoting their old plan, or they're about to change their pricing back.


The service hasn't changed. Thank the assholes who share accounts with friends and relatives. I can fully understand this step.
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They can protect themselves in other ways that are probably easier to implement. For example, they could allow streaming to only one IP address at a time. Since the IP address would be a router, someone in a household could watch as many movies as they wanted. However, if someone gave their account to someone else, they would effectively be preventing themselves from watching movies if the other person was streaming.

Some may argue -- what about people who are using their neighbors unprotected WiFi... protect your shit and get your own internet. It's not that difficult.
 
Are Netflix actively trying to torpedo there service? I get that losing a major studio is not because of any other reason than the absurd asking price and scared shitless behavior from the studios but there seems to be a lot of PR snafu's going on with Netflix lately.
 
Demon10000 said:
This can't be right. Without a streaming plan, you can't stream. So 1 Disc out = no streaming, which is why everyone was upset. So they're either quoting their old plan, or they're about to change their pricing back.




They can protect themselves in other ways that are probably easier to implement. For example, they could allow streaming to only one IP address at a time. Since the IP address would be a router, someone in a household could watch as many movies as they wanted. However, if someone gave their account to someone else, they would effectively be preventing themselves from watching movies if the other person was streaming.

Some may argue -- what about people who are using their neighbors unprotected WiFi... protect your shit and get your own internet. It's not that difficult.
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And how would the one-IP policy work for those with mobile devices?
 
Doesn't anyone find it ironic that at the same time they are "separating" their streaming plan from their DVD-plans, they are still tying the number of streams to the number of discs in your plan? How does that make sense? If your DVD plan is separate from your streaming plan now, then why does it have any effect on how many streams you can watch at the same time on your account.

BTW, I agree that all of you sharing your plans with people outside of your household are the reason that something like this will probably happen, even if they decide to not enforce it now. If you abuse a privilege, then you have no right to complain when they take that privilege away. You're just ruing it for everyone else. You have essentially become the people that trash the public park, to the detriment of all the other people that like to use it.

Also, I'm no longer a fan of Netflix, I changed to the 1-DVD +streaming from the 2-DVD plan this month, and I will be canceling the DVDs once i get through my current queue. I'd cancel the streaming too, but my wife actually watches that. I've been disappointed with streaming quite a bit. I currently have 16 titles "saved" in my instant queue because they used to be available, but no longer are.
 
Last time I tried to stream to a PC while the WII was streaming, I got a cryptic error on the PC. And the next time I went to use the WII, I had to back through the authentication process. That was in early June 2011.
 
I've had multiple streams going from at least two PCs many times and never had an issue. In fact I was surprised at the time that they didn't restrict it to just one.
 
1 stream on my Wii, 1 stream on my TV as of last night with the 1-dvd/stream setup.

I rarely ever use more than one stream (like maybe an hour a month tops), but so long as it's staying so that I can do this still I'm good. As much as I didn't like the price increase, it's still a quarter of what I paid for cable when I had it, and the kids think it's the best thing ever.
 
Well this really sucks for me. Currently I have netflix setup on the wii in the living room which is 99% of the time used by the kids, and I also have it on my PS3 in the mancave which me and the wife use.

So far we've never tried to use both at once, but for this upcoming Christmas I planned on getting them new TVs and xbox's for their rooms so they could have netflix in their bedrooms and stop fighting over the living room TV. I guess I will have to find some other solution...like pushing one of them down the stairs.
 
Demon10000 said:
They can protect themselves in other ways that are probably easier to implement. For example, they could allow streaming to only one IP address at a time. Since the IP address would be a router, someone in a household could watch as many movies as they wanted. However, if someone gave their account to someone else, they would effectively be preventing themselves from watching movies if the other person was streaming.

Some may argue -- what about people who are using their neighbors unprotected WiFi... protect your shit and get your own internet. It's not that difficult.
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Netflix really isn't interested if you protect your shit or pay for your own wifi. They're interested in limiting the number of streams to a function of the number of accounts. Some sort of IP-limiting scheme would also likely be harder for them to implement, and doesn't really even make sense in the frame of what the Netflix streaming service is. They already have an account/login system in place anyway.

It's an account based service. Account based solutions are the best solutions for them (and customers too, really).

They should have done something like this from the beginning. If they had some limit enabled early this year, maybe Sony/Starz/whoever wouldn't have called them out for violating their contract (due to more viewership than expected) and proposed an impossible cost increase to Netflix in order to provide their movies. As it is, they had to raise their price and the customers had to pay. But this drives away some legitimate customers, which isn't good for Netflix in the long run. I know Starz was pulled form streaming earlier this summer, but it came back and I assumed all was well. But not they say Starz will be gone again, so this is likely Netflix getting their service to the point that Starz will accept a reasonable contract.

Yes, the movie studios are likely the root of this, but Netflix should have implemented a system to cover its ass a long time ago. It's been a while since the Netflix CEO said they provided a streaming service that sometimes mails DVDs, they should have forseen this necessity. They have to work with the movie industry to provide their service and the movie industry isn't known for being lenient on the sharing of their products.
 
Like it fucking matters anyway, everything on netflix is bullshit now.


Oh look recent movies, skyline! They're only putting up shitty new stuff.. Nothing really great has gone up in awhile... Everytime I sit down to watch something on netflix I find myself spending 30 minutes looking for something to watch.
 
Thuleman said:
In the future, please refrain from using logic in support of your argument, it's un-American.
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QFT

a bunch of commies in here. Heaven forbid a company enforce its TOS that you agreed to when signing up. And to all of you pirates who have the audacity to sit there and complain "foul", well go take your ball and play somewhere else. Pretty sure the grass isnt greener on the other side though.
 
I'm likely in the minority, but I don't see a problem with charging "per stream" as they do "per DVD". You want more, you should pay more.
 
DemonDiablo said:
QFT

a bunch of commies in here. Heaven forbid a company enforce its TOS that you agreed to when signing up. And to all of you pirates who have the audacity to sit there and complain "foul", well go take your ball and play somewhere else. Pretty sure the grass isnt greener on the other side though.
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There's also a bunch of retards here who think a family should pay for multiple streams when they're supposed to have access to them who thinks that is piracy. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Gave up my Netflix sometime back for their lack of recent releases. Some are quick to point out that the movie industry is to blame but when it boils down to it Netflix don't have the content I am looking for in a timely manner. If they want my money they will fix it. If not then I will continue to go elsewhere.
 
when they're supposed to have access to them
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Another huge problem these days, a false sense of entitlement. If you want a family plan go talk to AT&T. Otherwise if you have a family of 10 then you need to buy the appropriate plan that allows you to have 8 extra unnecessary streams. Families that spend more time being individuals than actual families.
 
Demon10000 said:
This can't be right. Without a streaming plan, you can't stream. So 1 Disc out = no streaming, which is why everyone was upset. So they're either quoting their old plan, or they're about to change their pricing back.
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Sorry, I was simply repeating what I had read on ArsTechnica, and I believe they were referring to situations where the user has disc and streaming. But here's the link, rather than just parroting :)
 
even cable and satelite are not unlimited streams.... you need additional boxes for each tv which they charge for, and some cable companies will charge a fee just knowing you have more then one tv reguardless if it's connected or not. Paying per use is nothing new, and the people whining that netflix is finally is enforcing it's terms of service which you agreed to, have really weird sense of entitlements.
 
Weenis said:
There's also a bunch of retards here who think a family should pay for multiple streams when they're supposed to have access to them who thinks that is piracy. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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I can forgive you for not reading their TOS. But you didn't RTFA where it has a choice bit straight from the TOS that says one stream only. That has been there since I started netflix over a year ago.

Netflix screwed up by not enforcing that from the beginning and now several people have their panties in a bunch. The rule has always been there - just not enforced.
 
I always thought it was one stream at a time per account. It's what I've told people when they ask me too. so this doesn't affect me at all.
 
With the price hike, I said screw it. I am now using the $7.99 stream only plan, and I switched to Blockbuster for 2 DVD's at once.

I love it, I get blu-ray's mailed to me and I take them back to the store and get 2 others which I might not have found online. I also find Block Buster's new release's in the web site, more what i would expect. The new movies just coming out.

NetFlix always seems to list every disc that's releasing, making it hard to see the movies just coming out.
 
Not sure why this is news. Its been happening to me for months now. Gave my ex the Wii and shes been using the netflix on it, so I get this message occasionally. :mad:
 
inotocracy said:
Not sure why this is news. Its been happening to me for months now. Gave my ex the Wii and shes been using the netflix on it, so I get this message occasionally. :mad:
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She's your ex. Change your password. Problem solved.
 
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