Apple Technology Stops iPhones From Filming Live Events

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There is a solution for something as stupid as this, buy a phone that let's you do what you want with it.

The California company has plans to build a system that will sense when a person is trying to film a live event using a cell phone and automatically switch off their camera. A patent application filed by Apple, and obtained by the Times, reveals how the software would work. If a person were to hold up their iPhone, the device would trigger the attention of infra-red sensors installed at the venue. These sensors would then instruct the iPhone to disable its camera.
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Interesting tidbit from the article

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The concept may also allow Apple to reach more favorable terms with record labels when negotiating deals to sell content though its iTunes online store.
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why is this even necessary? cell phone video looks and sounds atrocious - who cares?
 
interesting feature... apple fucking up their paying customer again. People who actually keep their iphone vanilla , and BUY apps.

Time to jailbreak i guess.
 
"If a person were to hold up their iPhone, the device would trigger the attention of infra-red sensors installed at the venue. These sensors would then instruct the iPhone to disable its camera."

Money grab, plain and simple. "Want to stop our phones from being used at your venue for "filming?" Simple, install this $100,000 proprietary system which will allow all our phones not to record while an event is going on...See, we are all about content holder's rights!"
 
This would be a violation of someone's 1st, 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights.
What if someone was doing shorts and commenting on the performance. Or recording their own little party in the live event. What if someone is doing a vid chat just outside the live event?
There are very broad implications here.
 
First of all, it's a FoxNews.com post, the same place where stories from The Onion are repeatedly posted as real news. I feel dirty for having just clicked the link.

Secondly, like the good journalists they are, they do not reference the Patent Office filing they're reporting on. The patent can be found here. I read it, and it seems to be a patent application fo detecting infrared light emitted by copyrighted material, such as a film in a theater or a television show. I see nothing in the patent application that would suggest that it could be used at a live event, unless you think somehow they can bathe a concert hall or outdoor venue with the proper amounts of the infrared spectrum to knock out all iPhone cameras.

Muckraking at it's finest.
 
kcmastrpc said:
why is this even necessary? cell phone video looks and sounds atrocious - who cares?
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No kidding. The video quality might be ok... but the sound quality is ALWAYS awful. I have yet to see a cell phone recording of a concert or movie that didn't make me want to dig my ears drums out with a qtip. Apple is always filing for patents though, so I really doubt that they actually plan on actually making this type of thing. They're just securing the rights to it.


Besides, it seems to me that this technology would be very easy to get around if someone was motivated enough. Either disable or spoof the sensor via jailbreak... or just place some sort of IR filter over the sensor. Problem solved
 
If it can be used with various other copy righted material why the heck could it not be used in a theater?

Yes this can allow apple to get a leg up on competition for support from publishers. This is what I would say if I was a slightly paranoid to normal person. If I was totally unbias I would say that apple like many companies will patent anything they can think of if they have enough money without even thinking that they may use it. The idea is hey we can use it if we want or we can collect royalties, or we can just sit on it and prevent others from using it. If I was a mac tard enveloped in the RDF I would say that apple is making a patent claim to protect us all from evil companies that would use this and they will just hold it and not liscense it, or do so at such high fees it will not gain much traction. So just slot yourself in there for whatever you want to believe.
 
If Apple goes ahead with this they will lose to Microsoft, BlackBerry and Android.Their stocks will drop and Apple will be forced to shutdown one of their, if not highest, sources of income.
 
So it's like I buy a Honda and Honda tells me.

Them:
"Stay away from 5th street. If you go to 5th street we will shut your car down remotely."

Me:
"But I paid you for my car?"

Them:
"shutup noob."

Me:
"Can I change my case to white?"

Them:
"We will sue your ass. You can't modify it."

Me:
"Wasn't there a law suit? I'm sure I can do what I want."

Them:
"We will brick you if you make any changes."

Me:
"Maybe I will apply this Apples suck sticker."

Them:
"We will remotely disable you. That is a unregistered modification."

Me:
"I put a screen protector on it!"

Them:
"We will sue you, that is a unlicensed product. According to our terms of service you are breaking out mutual tyrannical end user agreement slave. We strive to build a better world."

Me:
"You lie. Didn't Foxconn factory asplode? Don't they have nets to prevent suicide jumpers?"

Them:
"We are announcing new music service. It's like p2p except we get paid."

Me:
"Can I talk to Steve Jobs about this?"

Them:
"No Steve is hanging out with God. Your kind are not allowed. Feed your iTunes account."

Me:
"U R FAIL APPLES!"

-1 customer
 
funny I sold my iphone 4 for way to much money, more than its worth. to switch to an android phone...for reason such as this.

you dont actually own an Apple product, you sort of rent it
 
I remember reading about this a little while back. They know people will get around it so it's pretty obvious it has less to do with actually stopping people from recording as it does with getting record labels and film companies to think they are stopping people.
 
Guess no one realizes that a lot of theaters already have a system that uses infrared light to detect camera usage. If you ever go to a popular movie on opening week and ever noticed a usher or someone walk into the room with something that looks like binoculars that's the device and it's similar to what the armed forces use to detect sniper scopes. Newer cinemas even have it built into the screen.
 
It other news, nobody here in H will be affected by this because we don't film copyrighted materials. What's the big deal?

Lol at the people saying that this will affect iphone 4 sales. really?
 
Matalim said:
It other news, nobody here in H will be affected by this because we don't film copyrighted materials. What's the big deal?

Lol at the people saying that this will affect iphone 4 sales. really?
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No, it will affect Freedom. It's a bit more important than iPhone 4 sales.
 
Trackr said:
No, it will affect Freedom. It's a bit more important than iPhone 4 sales.
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Pfft Freedom boredom. What're you talking about Trackr? Don't you remember that an Apple product is worth selling one's own kidney for if not their own soul? (Insert sarcasm tag here)
 
If the sensor isn't on the camera lens itself, couldn't you just cover the IR receiver? I could be wrong, but just block the light and the whole security is non functional.:confused:
 
tkepper said:
If the sensor isn't on the camera lens itself, couldn't you just cover the IR receiver? I could be wrong, but just block the light and the whole security is non functional.:confused:
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I think what I was reading is that the camera itself was the receptor, i.e. that it would be part of the system, hence it couldn't be that easily circumvented. Hence the software component that allows it to "recognize" the digital footprint being sent out to shut down.
 
Is this real/accurate? If so I will stop recommending people to buy ANY Apple products whatsoever. Apple will be loosing more than just me as a customer, but all my referals also.

This sort of anti-freedom, ANTI AMERICAN actitivity should not be tolerated. F@#K the corporate kleptocracy!!!
 
TheWeazmeister said:
I think what I was reading is that the camera itself was the receptor, i.e. that it would be part of the system, hence it couldn't be that easily circumvented. Hence the software component that allows it to "recognize" the digital footprint being sent out to shut down.
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Easy:

DON'T BUY AN IPHONE!
 
Is there something to stop criminals from buying the device that emits the IR signal to prevent people from recording them? (Yes, I know that it would only block iPhones, but what if this became a standard?)
 
1. Apple has filed patents for a *LOT* of things that never made it in to shipping products.

2. Easy solution: Put an IR filter over the lens.
 
Why all of this high-tech BS to do something like this?

They have GPS co-ordinates of every single venue in country. Just disable the cam when a person is within the confines of the building. Add a pay-service for the record companies that puts the event time-tables in there that update on the phone and you have instant media blackout.

Bingo-Bucks that allow the government to add this functionality.

Dont want your cops filmed, have a blackout around them.
Dont want your pro-freedom protest online.. have a blackout there too..
 
TheBluePill said:
Why all of this high-tech BS to do something like this?

They have GPS co-ordinates of every single venue in country. Just disable the cam when a person is within the confines of the building. Add a pay-service for the record companies that puts the event time-tables in there that update on the phone and you have instant media blackout.

Bingo-Bucks that allow the government to add this functionality.

Dont want your cops filmed, have a blackout around them.
Dont want your pro-freedom protest online.. have a blackout there too..
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1984 isn't sounding so outlandish now is it? :D
 
Everyone is acting as if this has been implemented on the iPhone already. This is nothing but a patent on a technology. Apple has patented all kinds of things in the past few years. Most of which never see the light of day. I seem to recall Microsoft getting a patent for "shutting down a computer". Does anyone really worry about that?

Maybe Apple patented it to protect the consumer from other manufacturers doing this.

If they did implement it then all you would have to do is buy the competitors product.
 
Take it a step further enable the camera of a phone or person you want to track or anyone in the area if you think you might catch something you want to record or find out where a person is more exactly.
 
Forget the theaters, this will soon be standard equipment added to the light bar on police cruisers.
 
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