ASUS GeForce GTX 590 Video Card Review @ [H]

Yeah clocks are back to default and load is 50% because OCCT is detected.
Sabregen why don't quit running pointless torture tests while you're still ahead

UNLESS you want to defeat OCP and run the card naked.
OCCT GPU with shader complexity 0 is insanely rigorous to being with.
 
So ... new drivers limit the 900mv voltage tuning ... anyone else can check this?
( i know there's not that many users with 590s :p )
 
sabregen said:
please rephrase in English
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What I'm trying to figure out is if the new driver sets your clock speeds on the core/shader to the stock settings EVEN if you overclock it in afterburner. In your screenshots above it says 700 in afterburner but gpu-z shows stock of 604mhz or whatever. So Is nvidia capping your cloc speed as well with the new driver and eliminating overclocking?
 
900mv limit by Nvidia! Well no wonder cards don't burn out anymore. They are being gimped by the drivers. ^_^

At least Nvidia made CERTAIN no more cards will fry. They also made certain that no cards will have the volts to OC all that well either. How else to put this. *thumbs down*

No performance king to see here. The GTX 590 is firmly driving in the right hand lane.

Green team settles for 2nd place to make sure its golden goose doesn't get cooked. Who the hell designed this thing again? I think I want the wooden screws team back. Haha.
 
Lord_Exodia said:
What I'm trying to figure out is if the new driver sets your clock speeds on the core/shader to the stock settings EVEN if you overclock it in afterburner. In your screenshots above it says 700 in afterburner but gpu-z shows stock of 604mhz or whatever. So Is nvidia capping your cloc speed as well with the new driver and eliminating overclocking?
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Damn, I didn't even catch this. You're absolutely correct. Even though MSI Afterburner is set to whatever you want, they are not actually being set there. I've confirmed with a Vantage and a 3dmark11 run that the difference between stock and OC'd is within the margin of eror (5%). looks like nvidia cut their losses and capped us off.
 
HohnyF said:
Sabregen why don't quit running pointless torture tests while you're still ahead
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good idea. i hate running benchmarks instead of actually gaming on my new toys.

HohnyF said:
UNLESS you want to defeat OCP and run the card naked.
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i don't.

also, you're not a very nice dude, awfully demanding for someone with a core 2 and a 460.

NO MOAR BENCHMARKZ PHOR YEW
 
sabregen said:
Damn, I didn't even catch this. You're absolutely correct. Even though MSI Afterburner is set to whatever you want, they are not actually being set there. I've confirmed with a Vantage and a 3dmark11 run that the difference between stock and OC'd is within the margin of eror (5%). looks like nvidia cut their losses and capped us off.
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Oh well, considering your space/size limitations (mini-ITX) looks like GTX 590 is still gonna be your highest performance option unless a 6990 would fit. LOL.
 
vjcsmoke said:
Oh well, considering your space/size limitations (mini-ITX) looks like GTX 590 is still gonna be your highest performance option unless a 6990 would fit. LOL.
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it would, but there's be dremel work involved until i get the final rev of this chassis from the manufactuer...which keeps getting pushed back. and i've already invest in NV3D, so ATI for main gaming is out for the forseeable future.
 
590 needs 6990's 450W power circuitry ... I bet they hard-capped the 590 to stock clocks and voltage. It simply appears to be 375W power limited, yeah? Too bad they couldn't throw a bone with a 5% freq oc maximum or something. 450W would get you to 725MHz, if the cooling held together. 480W to reach 772MHz at stock voltage ...
 
Can someone confirm if the new (at the time of this writing) 267.91 drivers are dropping clocks intermittently to 550mhz or not?
 
sabregen said:
Damn, I didn't even catch this. You're absolutely correct. Even though MSI Afterburner is set to whatever you want, they are not actually being set there. I've confirmed with a Vantage and a 3dmark11 run that the difference between stock and OC'd is within the margin of eror (5%). looks like nvidia cut their losses and capped us off.
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Wonder if it is just temporary while they work out the issues with the OCP - seems very unlike Nvidia to completely cut off all overclocking.
 
sabregen said:
Damn, I didn't even catch this. You're absolutely correct. Even though MSI Afterburner is set to whatever you want, they are not actually being set there. I've confirmed with a Vantage and a 3dmark11 run that the difference between stock and OC'd is within the margin of eror (5%). looks like nvidia cut their losses and capped us off.
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Wow man, just wow. Nvidia really is not playing fair here. I mean granted your only guaranteed by them specifically to get the specs of the reference design, but what about asus and EVGA with their over volting advertisements and overclocking advertisements on the box. If their card is really that sensitive then they should recall them, I hope Forceman ^^^ is right and this is temporary until they fix the issues, but right now I'd be considering returning the card for a refund unless I'm in a special situation where it was absolutely the best choice for what I'm doing.
 
This is only speculation, don't take it as fact.

nVidia may be setting the voltage limit in order to iron out the bugs on OCV/OCP. If that is the case then I would have to agree with them.
 
Well gents, I'm not sure what to say. My video card went...uhh...nuts. Windows drivers crashed at stock, and actually DISABLED both of the GPUs in Device Manager. I was taken aback when it happened, as I wasn't gaming, OC'd, testing, or anything. After re-enabling both and then rebooting, I can once again OC...but volts are still limited.

what the FUCK is going on here? Looks like they've got some issues to work out, for sure.

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Lord_Exodia said:
Hmm but with this many drivers up to this point, I'm wondering if the issues could be bios or in other words firmware related.
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has nvidia ever released a new firmware for their cards to fix such an issue? i'm all for reflashing if thats what it takes. no skin off my back. it's safe to agree that this card has great potential. 850mhz is achieveable and should be a hell of an oc on this card. i don't need to reach e-peen 1000mhz nirvana.
 
soilentblue said:
has nvidia ever released a new firmware for their cards to fix such an issue? i'm all for reflashing if thats what it takes. no skin off my back. it's safe to agree that this card has great potential. 850mhz is achieveable and should be a hell of an oc on this card. i don't need to reach e-peen 1000mhz nirvana.
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Yes they have actually, They do it all the time for their quadro cards also. AIB partners are really funny about the bios releases and only authorize a bios update on a case by case basis. I agree the card has great potential. I'm not sure what's going on but eventually the truth will come out on what's happening, LOL imagine it's something completely unexpected like msi afterburner is causing the issue. Anyway it's all unsure at this time and I would be nervous owning one until the truth is out, but with limited quantities what choice do you have. If you were going to buy one then you pretty much had to buy it right away.
 
Some weird stuff is going on with this 590 ...
sabregen, but at 772... i bet you got sh*tty scores no?
 
I am in the same boat as sabregen, to be honest I will just keep it at stock as its working for what it does, if I could do it all over again though I would have kept my dual 6970's.
 
AthlonXP said:
I am in the same boat as sabregen, to be honest I will just keep it at stock as its working for what it does, if I could do it all over again though I would have kept my dual 6970's.
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I am of a similar mind, at least, for now (well....regarding the OC'ing part. I only had a single 580 before, and this IS...even at stock...faster than that).
 
The card was working like a champ at stock now and my games run nice and smooth until I fired up Shogun 2 after coming home from a hockey game and it just all of a sudden dies. Stock volts and clock with the latest drivers.
 
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eldertru said:
I bet this would be sick with a custom water block and some aggressive overclocking - problem is the amount of RAM - why would you limit a flagship model.

Only thing I can think is they don't expect too many people to be doing more than Nvidia 3d instead of the surround (or they don't think people are smart either and associate the ram size with the resolution size required for 3 or 4 monitors)

In the end, this generation I would stick with two 6950's 2gb in crossfire and bios mod them.
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I think overclocking this card at all will put you way out of spec on the PCIE slot, I wonder if the slot would melt...
 
I finally got a chance to play with my new 590 last night and (so far) it hasn't burst into flames. The first game I tried was Crysis 2 which was impossible to run in SLI even with the latest drivers, profiles, etc. There were flickering and strange lighting geometry problems. I was getting 60 fps (as I am using Vsync on my TV), but it was generally unplayable. So I switched off SLI and reran the game. I was shocked that with the game set at 1080p and Extreme settings I was still getting 55-60fps with the occasional dip to 45fps. The card really is a beast, it's just a shame that I have to be nervous using it after all of the recent premature death reports. :(
 
Balthazar2k4 said:
I finally got a chance to play with my new 590 last night and (so far) it hasn't burst into flames. The first game I tried was Crysis 2 which was impossible to run in SLI even with the latest drivers, profiles, etc. There were flickering and strange lighting geometry problems. I was getting 60 fps (as I am using Vsync on my TV), but it was generally unplayable. So I switched off SLI and reran the game. I was shocked that with the game set at 1080p and Extreme settings I was still getting 55-60fps with the occasional dip to 45fps. The card really is a beast, it's just a shame that I have to be nervous using it after all of the recent premature death reports. :(
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I don't think anyone doubts that the GTX 590 is fast. However it isn't as fast as it could be or should have been. NVIDIA just had to make too many compromises to make it work.
 
Brent_Justice said:
That's nice, but, see the front of the card, with the open heatsink area near the power connectors, that entire end of the card will blow out massive amounts of heat towards the front of your case, I can see it adding a lot of heat to the inside of the case and craming up right there in that area, even though it is open. I've been doing a lot of testing with this card, and I can see how that could create a heat bubble right there for you in that area.
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Thanks Brent!

Here's the updated Case Mod for better air flow! (card is still working great!)

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