MSI P67A-GD65 LGA1155 Chipset Motherboard Review @ [H]

does anyone have this board with the corsair a70 ? I was wondering if it would fit on the board and not block the ram slots with the g.skill ripjaw with the thing sticking up
 
I have that setup...the a70 doesn't block the slot...the ripjaws fit right under the second fan in dimm1...dimm2 gets blocked by the fan...only a problem if you plan to populate all dimms and run the second fan...you could always rig the fan to sit a little higher and figure another way to attach it. This is with me eyeballing the board through my case window.
 
RipperMac said:
I have that setup...the a70 doesn't block the slot...the ripjaws fit right under the second fan in dimm1...dimm2 gets blocked by the fan...only a problem if you plan to populate all dimms and run the second fan...you could always rig the fan to sit a little higher and figure another way to attach it. This is with me eyeballing the board through my case window.
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got a picture of how that works ? seems weird that the ram will fit under the cooler but not the fan.
 
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The cooler doesn't block the dimm 2 slot....the fan does...and only because of ram height...hope the pic helps
 
Thanks for the help, it all fit perfectly. Running well, this board is pretty damn awesome.

In the UEFI bios thinger, does anyone else have a problem with the mouse, where moving the mouse left and right will move the pointer left and right, but moving it up and down will be inverted ?
 
Bbq said:
Thanks for the help, it all fit perfectly. Running well, this board is pretty damn awesome.

In the UEFI bios thinger, does anyone else have a problem with the mouse, where moving the mouse left and right will move the pointer left and right, but moving it up and down will be inverted ?
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I have the exact same problem, do you have a Razor or Mionix by chance? I contacted Mionix and they are going to be releasing new firmware.
 
Vindicis said:
I have the exact same problem, do you have a Razor or Mionix by chance? I contacted Mionix and they are going to be releasing new firmware.
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Razor, the deathadder 3500 to be exact. Google seems to pick up at least 1 other person with this problem
 
Yup, I've seen several people on the MSI forums have the issue with a Razor. I believe the deathadder and Mionix have the same optical engine, could be the issue.

EDIT: There's a new beta bios (1.10b1) out that has fixed the UEFI mouse issue for some Razors. If I wasn't such a chicken, I'd try it out and see if it fixes my Mionix.
 
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I have the Razer Mamba and do not have the inverted issue. Must only be certain engines.
 
i use my mamba wired and dont have problems with 1.8 B3 bios
also used it wireless and didnt have any problems.

where can all the beta bios be found?
 
If I understand the manual correctly the motherboard has two USB headers (one 2.0 and one 3.0). Can they both be used ? I.e, my case has two from USB which support either 2.0 or 3.0 so can I plug one into the 3.0 header and one into the 2.0 header ?
 
TorxT3D said:
where can all the beta bios be found?
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I get them from the MSI forums, here http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=45.0

you2 said:
If I understand the manual correctly the motherboard has two USB headers (one 2.0 and one 3.0). Can they both be used ? I.e, my case has two from USB which support either 2.0 or 3.0 so can I plug one into the 3.0 header and one into the 2.0 header ?
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Yes, that will work fine. I'm doing that myself now without any issues.
 
Anyone got a notification about their B3 replacements? i haven't seen anything and I registered my motherboard and everything.
 
I registered with MSI too but haven't heard a peep. I bought mine from Newegg and took them up on their replacement offer first since they beat MSI (which is pretty sad).
 
Problem with new build; the mother board monitor (bios) and hte control center tool thinks my cpu is 97C (actually it keeps flipping between 47 and 97). This is a new motherboard (B3).

To the touch (area around the fan) it is very cool; no heat at all. I have a stock cooler on and even when running prime95 the control panel frequency is x8 (very low?)

Could the CPU really be that hot (and if not is there a fix) ?
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I rebooted the system (and for good measure reseated the fan; using MSI tools the core monitor indicate 60C and the control center indicates 42C after running prime 95 for 40 minutes. No clue why this tool gives two different tmp and which is more accurate. Before I reseated the fan the second tool was giving 47; wth the first giving 97 - but when I took the fan off the entire area was very cool so I can't believe it was anywhere close to 97C
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What is weird is if i hit the greentab (change no settings but it shows the temp) it sez the temp is 40c; while the tool that monitors the 4 cores indicates 60 (now). This is from the msi control pannel.
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Btw I have two issues with the MB; the case connectors block the second video card slot (this seems like a very serious goof on MSI part so i'm surprise this is a gold rated board).
funky temp (maybe the cpu really is running 97C but I have my doubts)
poor layout blocks the pcie slot
I guess a third issue is i'm unsure how to plug the case usb3 ports into the MB; right now I'm using the adapter they provided but leaving it in the HD cage with the case USB connector (lian 9f) plug in there; but this seems really funky to me.
 
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Yes.

This morning the temp seems ok; with prime95 running 10-15 minutes (not 100% sure that is long enough to reach equilibrium) the cores ranged from 60 to 55; and the multiplier was 34. I left it running prime95 and if it remains stable today then I probably just panicked without reason.

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Still a bit peeved about the connectors blocking the second video card. I see a few pages back someone suggest clipping wires. What I really want is a 90 degree connector (similar to sata port orientation). Any suggestions on a fix here besides clipping wires? I really would not give this board a gold rating with such a blatant flaw in the design.

killermmn said:
are many phase led is on(full load)?
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Just some info with large HSF coolers:


RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws X 8GB PC3-12800 (F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL) Gskill says these are 40-41mm in height

HSF: Thermalright Venomous X with dual Scythe S-Flex SFF21F 120mm fans

The ram can fit with this cooler. Cooler itself is nowhere near the ram sticks.
The fans, however, will be touching the ram stick's heatspreaders.

I know the pictures show a tiny gap. After everything was set up (after many reseating attempts, damn OCD) and just short of powering on, the fans shifted and started touching the ram heatspreaders.
No matter how much i moved it away from the heatspreaders (fan clips are included), it will always move back and continue touching. I really don't think this will matter much if at all. If it does, please inform.




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One other problem I'm having is that the machine goes off (i.e, windows crashes) when it hibernates. Has anyone else had this problem? Other than that and the problem with jp2 blocking video card everything seems ok. Not sure what to expect but with stock cooler and stock speed the temp is 57-61 after 5 hours of prime95. At 4ghz the temp goes to 75 (core 0) to 71 (core 3; which was the 57 above).
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I guess that is a little warm but seems like a safe range (this is running prime95; so should be quite a bit lower gaming).
 
I'm getting 30-36ºC idle and 54-56ºC full load with prime 95 on my VenX
Core 1,2, and 4 are very similar in temp but core 3 is usually about 6-7º higher ???


This is at 4.5ghz with vcore @ 1.28v



I followed the guide over at bit-tech for these numbers
 
DraGun said:
I'm getting 30-36ºC idle and 54-56ºC full load with prime 95 on my VenX
Core 1,2, and 4 are very similar in temp but core 3 is usually about 6-7º higher ???


This is at 4.5ghz with vcore @ 1.28v



I followed the guide over at bit-tech for these numbers
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the one where you sort the ram out first?
 
But did you use the stock cooler :)


DraGun said:
I'm getting 30-36ºC idle and 54-56ºC full load with prime 95 on my VenX
Core 1,2, and 4 are very similar in temp but core 3 is usually about 6-7º higher ???


This is at 4.5ghz with vcore @ 1.28v



I followed the guide over at bit-tech for these numbers
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Venomous X is my cooler as i had mentioned in my post. It was just for a reference standpoint to compare.
 
Ok sorry miss understood that Venomous X was a cooler (i guess I'm too much of a newbie).
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Anyone else having issues with the machine crashing (basically power going off) when the machine enters stand-by mode ? Not sure if this is an MSI issue or windows 7 issue or intel (driver) issue ?

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Venomous X is my cooler as i had mentioned in my post. It was just for a reference standpoint to compare.
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I just put my system to "Sleep mode" and it seemed like it powered off. But I just hit the power button and it resumed to the Log in screen.

Using "Hibernate", my monitors went dark and lost signal from video card. Fans and LEDs were still on for about 5 - 7 seconds then it powered down completely. Mouse movement or keyboard (both USB) presses did not wake it up.
Power button woke it up but it looked like it had completely shut down. It showed the boot up bios check and all that and went to "Resuming Windows" or something. Finally it booted to the Log In screen.

To be honest, I'm not sure what the differences are between "Hibernate" and "Sleep" other than longer boot time.
 
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Hibernate saves what is in your RAM to your hdd, so you can power it off completely and still resume (eg, unplug PC, keep it off indefinitely, then resume)

Sleep/Standby puts your PC in a low-powered state, still providing power to your RAM to keep the charge. If you turn it off completely (unplug, remove battery, etc), then all the data is lost, and you cannot resume.

Hibernate takes longer because it has to copy from ram to hdd, and vice versa when resuming
 
I'm using sleep mode (it was windows 7 default). In my case when it successfully enters sleep mode the power button led blinks (it has done this a couple of times) but other times it completely shut down (when I hit the power button it does a full reboot and windows gives a dialog indicating it had not shut down correctly; the even viewer indicates it lost power).
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At first I thought maybe it was overheating (i've was burning in the system with prime95 and with the case fully close and very modest overclocking it runs a bit warm (mid 70's C); but if I disable sleep mode in windows 7 it runs fine. I ran this test 3 or 4 times (sleep mode on it dies; sleep mode off it runs for hours without issue). Note it is not rebooting; it is a complete power down.
 
Have you tried disabling EuP 2013 and setting the wake up event from bios to OS?
 
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No. EuP 2013 was one of those options I didn't understand so I left it at the default. I'll try to disable it when I get home.
 
Ok. I tried disabling Eup 2013; and re-enabled PLL. Same deal; when it is suppose to go into sleep mode it turns off (non-clean shutdown).
 
you2, which BIOS version are you using? Did you also update the firmware of the Intel IME? Checkout forum-en.msi.com and check the beta BIOS section for instructions on how to use the MSI USB Flasher tool. I was having similar problems until I ensured my IME firmware was also up to date.
 
I have 1.8; reports on 1.9b suggest I should wait for the final version? I did update the chipset from intel site; but unsrue if that includes IME (having probelm finding it explicitly for series 6 processors.

I should note that this issue occurs when running prime 95 (i.e, when the processor is running at full speed).
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I'm a bit surprise that no one else has experience this issue. Perhaps they are idle when sleep mode kicks in.

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you2, which BIOS version are you using? Did you also update the firmware of the Intel IME? Checkout forum-en.msi.com and check the beta BIOS section for instructions on how to use the MSI USB Flasher tool. I was having similar problems until I ensured my IME firmware was also up to date.
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you2 said:
I have 1.8; reports on 1.9b suggest I should wait for the final version? I did update the chipset from intel site; but unsrue if that includes IME (having probelm finding it explicitly for series 6 processors.

I should note that this issue occurs when running prime 95 (i.e, when the processor is running at full speed).
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I'm a bit surprise that no one else has experience this issue. Perhaps they are idle when sleep mode kicks in.
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You need to update the firmware of the IME. Otherwise you will have issues.....

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=144655.0

That's the thread for the BIOS's. Be sure to go to the last or 2nd to last page to find the latest BIOS. I'm running the 1.10 BIOS (can't remember which increment) and everything is fine. Using the USB Flasher tool is the safest way to flash your BIOS + IME.
 
Where do I find the firmware for the IME (or is that included with the BIOS) ?
 
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