AMD's Quad-Core Llano APUs Pegged for Q3 2011

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I saw this chart over at Engadget today and thought you guys might find it interesting. I guess we'll know how accurate it is once Computex rolls around in June.
 
Many years ago I used to actually pay attention to AMD and what they were bringing to market. They just seem so outclassed at this point in time, it would be great to see them bring something to market to make me perk my head up again like they did with their Athlon series back in the day.
 
TwistedAegis said:
Many years ago I used to actually pay attention to AMD and what they were bringing to market. They just seem so outclassed at this point in time, it would be great to see them bring something to market to make me perk my head up again like they did with their Athlon series back in the day.
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Zacate is pretty impressive for what it is, and I have to say that Llano is looking just like it but much better. Chips like these will do wonders for the mainstream market. Long gone are the days of buying good money for a laptop with a piece of shit igp or power hungry dedicated card.
 
Intel has to seriously be considering buying Nvidia at this point. How else could they compete here?
 
Intel is doing fine and looking at Nvidia they don't have a whole lot of competition going on so I'm sure Intel could wait and get it for a cheaper price. Also I hope that doesn't happen. I'm just really hoping for a kick ass AMD product. I have hardly even looked at AMD since Socket 939
 
Zacate is ok, but a little slow on the CPU side.
I've been looking to build a HTPC with a couple tuners, and even though the dual core 1.6Ghz Zacate will work, it doesn't leave much room for future growth like a low end i3 cpu.
A SandyBridge i3 has about the same idle power draw as the Zacate, but has much more headroom on the CPU.
I doubt these new AMD chips have as low an idle power draw, but I might have to wait a few more month to see.
 
It will certainly hog up less die area than Sandy Birdge + Nvidia Optimus, regardless. And since the 5xxx series ATI has nailed idle power draw very well which somewhat negates the power consumption advantage Intel has.
 
The A8-3550 with 4 cores and HD 6550 at only 65W TDP looks very interesting since I could probably get by with integrated graphics with the games I play. I can't wait to see how these chips perform.
 
computer said:
The A8-3550 with 4 cores and HD 6550 at only 65W TDP looks very interesting since I could probably get by with integrated graphics with the games I play. I can't wait to see how these chips perform.
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Yeah, I was looking at that myself... Quad core + 6550 @ 65W is impressive... I will defiantly be considering getting one of these for a HTPC rig....
 
Valset said:
I think he meant on the graphics side. pretty much intels only weak point
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Performance != money.

From a revenue standpoint its far from weak. The majority of PC users are using intel integrated graphics.
 
Disposed said:
Performance != money.

From a revenue standpoint its far from weak. The majority of PC users are using intel integrated graphics.
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true but in the upcoming battle I don't think that is going to stay true. up til now its been mass market and cheap motherboards for intel that gave them that. (and nvidia for that matter). now both AMD and Intel have changed the game. performance wise AMD is going to kill Intel as far as the GPU goes. and my i7 runs firefox no faster then my phenom 940 did. its pretty much AMD only real chance (they have better use it as I am hearing that bulldozer at best matches sandy bridge and they are FAR behind market wise)
 
Q3 isn't too far off. We're just over a week away from Q2 right now.

Although I was hoping to replace my HTPC mobo with a Llano in June...guess it will have to wait a month or two longer.

Still looking forward to those Bulldozers, though! June will be the month to decide if I'm headed for Dilldozer or Sandy Vag
 
Valset said:
true but in the upcoming battle I don't think that is going to stay true. up til now its been mass market and cheap motherboards for intel that gave them that. (and nvidia for that matter). now both AMD and Intel have changed the game. performance wise AMD is going to kill Intel as far as the GPU goes. and my i7 runs firefox no faster then my phenom 940 did. its pretty much AMD only real chance (they have better use it as I am hearing that bulldozer at best matches sandy bridge and they are FAR behind market wise)
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No it will stay true. The average consumer wont even look at the graphics chipset when buying a computer, at most they will look for the sticker that says "HD or 1080p Playback". For it to matter all the OEMs would have to start favoring these AMD chips and that wont happen either.

Go walk around your local electronics store and count the number of AMD to Intel machines there are.
 
Disposed said:
No it will stay true. The average consumer wont even look at the graphics chipset when buying a computer, at most they will look for the sticker that says "HD or 1080p Playback". For it to matter all the OEMs would have to start favoring these AMD chips and that wont happen either.

Go walk around your local electronics store and count the number of AMD to Intel machines there are.
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not arguing that fact, Intel dominates. but for this coming round AMD is going to be able to put the prettier stickers on their machines. THAT is what I getting at.

and OEM are going to be favoring them for a while, they are cheap :cool:
 
Valset said:
not arguing that fact, Intel dominates. but for this coming round AMD is going to be able to put the prettier stickers on their machines. THAT is what I getting at.

and OEM are going to be favoring them for a while, they are cheap :cool:
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OEMs will not EVER favor AMD setups.

Even when AMD dominated intel in performance AND cost prior to the conroe chips OEMs still heavily favored intel.

This wont even make a dent in intels presence in the OEMs. If you think otherwise you are just fooling yourself.
 
Disposed said:
Even when AMD dominated intel in performance AND cost prior to the conroe chips OEMs still heavily favored intel.
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There was a reason that happened in the past, and it wasn't entirely legal. The FTC has their eyes on Intel now, as do AMD's lawyers.

The mass-market OEMs will favor whoever gives them low-power parts at a good price, and AMD is the champ in both of those categories. More and more people are hooking computers up to their TVs, too.
 
It's all about the money guys. As fattypants points out, the cheaper has always been the WINNAARRRR!11!
 
fattypants said:
There was a reason that happened in the past, and it wasn't entirely legal. The FTC has their eyes on Intel now, as do AMD's lawyers.

The mass-market OEMs will favor whoever gives them low-power parts at a good price, and AMD is the champ in both of those categories. More and more people are hooking computers up to their TVs, too.
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Now instead of the shenanigans they pulled before they will just undercut AMD at every turn. Intel has the money and resources to keep AMD down and they will. Even after all the antitrust and FTC nonsense intel STILL dominates the shit out of the OEM market.

Its not just cheap tricks keeping them there. AMD is run by a pack of fucking idiots. They sat on their ass while the Atom dominated the x86 netbook market and are just now jumping in as the platform is dying. They are getting their asses handed to them in the desktop enthusiast market, instead of taking advantage of the sandy bridge issues with marketing or releasing something competitive they didnt do a fucking thing! They pissed away a golden opportunity to steal away some of that market. They are getting slaughtered in the desktop/laptop OEM market because the cost/performance is lacking.

Outside of discrete graphics you have to look pretty damn hard these days to find any area or budget that AMD is even remotely competitive in.

If you guys think that this new APU is going to even make a dent in intels market share you live in a fantasy world.

This will be relegated to a few desktops and laptops that will be bought by people that want to game on a strict budget and do some homework. The masses will never even know the difference because their local best buy will still be 90% intel products.

You can live in denial and think the OEMs will adopt this but you are just fooling yourself.

Intel has the market share, intel has the brand recognition and they have the money to bleed out AMD and undercut everything they offer.


Cerulean said:
It's all about the money guys. As fattypants points out, the cheaper has always been the WINNAARRRR!11!
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Thats funny because the OEM market has not worked this way pretty much ever. :rolleyes:

Intel has always been the WINNAARRRR!11! regardless of cost.
 
Disposed said:
Now instead of the shenanigans they pulled before they will just undercut AMD at every turn. Intel has the money and resources to keep AMD down and they will. Even after all the antitrust and FTC nonsense intel STILL dominates the shit out of the OEM market.....
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OEM are already adopting Brazos, and I'm sure it will be the same for Llano. That's what these chips, and their branding are catered toward. The OEM market and average Joe PC Buyer.

Also, AMD had nothing to deliver Sandy Bridge bug or not, but they did supposedly receive more orders for CPU's.

Very one sided thinker we have here.
 
TheBlueChanell said:
OEM are already adopting Brazos, and I'm sure it will be the same for Llano. That's what these chips, and their branding are catered toward. The OEM market and average Joe PC Buyer.

Also, AMD had nothing to deliver Sandy Bridge bug or not, but they did supposedly receive more orders for CPU's.

Very one sided thinker we have here.
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When your competitor has such a massive failure like that a little advertising goes a long way. Instead they didnt do shit to capitalize on it.

Yes, look at the adoption rate for brazos. :rolleyes: Sure is taking off right? :rolleyes:

It dont matter who AMD aims the chips at they need to convince OEMs to use them and thats where they have always failed since day 1.

One sided my ass. :rolleyes:
 
Disposed said:
When your competitor has such a massive failure like that a little advertising goes a long way. Instead they didnt do shit to capitalize on it.

Yes, look at the adoption rate for brazos. :rolleyes: Sure is taking off right? :rolleyes:

It dont matter who AMD aims the chips at they need to convince OEMs to use them and thats where they have always failed since day 1.

One sided my ass. :rolleyes:
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There was some viral advertising, specifically geared toward Llano. What is the adoption rate for Brazos? Last I heard OEM's have been eating them up, over a million shipped or something close, and that's part of the reason boards are few and far between on etailers. OEM's gobbled them all up.
 
I'm excited for all the AMD low power stuff. Personally, I'm to the point that I'm done with Intel for awhile, don't even recomend any Intel stuff to friends or family right now.

Other than NIC cards, can't beat their NICs, even AMD server boards have Intel NICs.
 
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