Wait for Crucial C400 or buy a C300?

The C300 256gb is only $485 now. So tempted but trying to hold out for C400 256. Hoping it's in the $500 ballpark.
 
It probably won't be cheaper at first, but it will get there, and will end up cheaper than the current products are. Like most computer parts, the longer you're willing to hold off, the less you'll have to pay.
 
mattchapman said:
The C300 256gb is only $485 now. So tempted but trying to hold out for C400 256. Hoping it's in the $500 ballpark.
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I've seen them for 410.00 on Ebay.

Crucial doesn't seem to care about authorized dealers and I'd have no problem purchasing from a good seller.

I paid 450.00 from a private seller on this forum.


This from the man who has a 256GB C300 drive in his machine?
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You're thinking of the old Rick.

You're conversing with the new 2011 Rick that has no frivolous spending habits.....I'm pretty sure. :D
 
Old Hippie said:
I've seen them for 410.00 on Ebay.

Crucial doesn't seem to care about authorized dealers and I'd have no problem purchasing from a good seller.

I paid 450.00 from a private seller on this forum.



You're thinking of the old Rick.

You're conversing with the new 2011 Rick that has no frivolous spending habits.....I'm pretty sure. :D
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Oh, pardon me then. I apologize for ASSuming that much. ;):)
 
Newegg is thoroughly inflating the Corsair Performance 3 prices now!!!
 
What are the 4k random read and writes going to be on these babies?
 
How do the C300 (and likely C400 as well) handle encrypted data? I would like to use them as boot drives, but I keep my OSes encrypted using dm-crypt/LUKS. I have read mention that certain drives or controllers have worse performance handling (either reading or writing?) encrypted data. How do the C300/C400 fare?


Are the Corsair Performance 3 series any better or worse in this area? Encrypted data performance may be a deciding factor on whether I go for C300/C400 or Corsairs current generation offerings.
 
Unfortunately the tsunami just ensured that prices will be sky high on anything requiring NAND flash for some time.
 
The Crucial 300 128GB were a reasonable price so I bought one today. It is the last item to upgrade my daughter's business computer.

I should get the parts by Tuesday. Assembled and running on Wednesday.

For most business purposes I suspect data input speed is the limiting factor.
 
rive22 said:
No kidding right? Where the hell are these things
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I imagine (as others have said), that the tsunami has pretty well screwed this round of products. I read somewhere that Japan produces about 1/2 the world's NAND flash.

GeorgeHR said:
The Crucial 300 128GB were a reasonable price so I bought one today. It is the last item to upgrade my daughter's business computer.

I should get the parts by Tuesday. Assembled and running on Wednesday.

For most business purposes I suspect data input speed is the limiting factor.
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I purchased a C300, 256GB last week for $410. C400 may be faster, but I'd bet it will be further delayed and a lot more expensive.
 
PurduEE said:
I imagine (as others have said), that the tsunami has pretty well screwed this round of products. I read somewhere that Japan produces about 1/2 the world's NAND flash.



I purchased a C300, 256GB last week for $410. C400 may be faster, but I'd bet it will be further delayed and a lot more expensive.
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Yeah, I decided to just go ahead and get the c300 128GB drive now. I am afraid the prices will just be too darn high for the c400. I can always return it in 30 days if I am not happy.
 
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Yeah, I decided to just go ahead and get the c300 128GB drive now. I am afraid the prices will just be too darn high for the c400. I can always return it in 30 days if I am not happy.
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CANCEL YOUR ORDER NOW~! This is my first post in 3 years, I came on just to warn you.
http://www.superbiiz.com/query.php?categry=0&s=c400

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Looks like the 128GB is the sweet spot - same 4k as 256GB and 512GB versions.

That is, if you can live with 175MB/s write.

And as usual, don't even think of getting the 512GB, unless you absolutely need TRIM, as it has the same specs as the 256GB version.
 
Trackr said:
That's a given. But the chips (25nm) are the same and it's unlikely they'll be able to squeeze more juice out of it.
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Those are the Micron drives and don't necessarily reflect the Crucial drives' performance
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Maybe yes, maybe no but these aren't the Crucial drives.
 
So, even though Crucial=Micron and they are called out as "C400" and "RealSSD" you're still thinking that there will be other ones with Crucial instead of Micron branding?*

* citation needed

Or it could just be a superbiz screw-up on the way they are named.
 
[LYL]Homer;1036993077 said:
So, even though Crucial=Micron and they are called out as "C400" and "RealSSD" you're still thinking that there will be other ones with Crucial instead of Micron branding?*

* citation needed

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Yes I do think there will be Crucial branded models.

If nothing else, the model numbers will start with a "C" instead of an "M".
 
Old Hippie said:
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Maybe yes, maybe no but these aren't the Crucial drives.
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I'd be more concerned that superbiz is the only seller listing these drives. Just because it's listed doesn't mean you're likely to see it any time soon.
 
Based on that I just called them and found out they do not have any in stock right now. They will have them on Monday. I am a bit suspicious right now....my card was charged too.
 
Micron = Manufacturing
Crucial = Micron's In house retail arm.

Crucial C400
Micron M4

Both are the same drive, both have the same Micron firmware. The Anandtech article linked earlier in this same thread spells it all out.
 
James. said:
Micron = Manufacturing
Crucial = Micron's In house retail arm.

Crucial C400
Micron M4

Both are the same drive, both have the same Micron firmware. The Anandtech article linked earlier in this same thread spells it all out.
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Maybe they'll listen to you.
 
James. said:
Micron = Manufacturing
Crucial = Micron's In house retail arm.

Crucial C400
Micron M4
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The M4 and the C400 are exactly the same drive, but you have them reversed. The correct notation is:

Crucial M4

Micron C400

This is different from the C300, where Crucial and Micron both call it the C300.

http://www.micronblogs.com/2011/02/how-to-build-a-solid-25nm-ssd-and-how-not-to/

Crucial’s M4 SSD will hit the shelves in mid-March
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I suspect that some people in this thread are confusing "Marvell", which makes SSD controllers for these SSDs, with "Micron", which makes SSDs and flash memory (among other things, Micron is huge). Crucial is just the house brand for Micron.
 
Thanks for the correction. :)

And yeah, Marvell is a controller manufacturer, among other things (They also make a bunch of SoC's for things like consumer grade 2-4 drive NAS boxes, etc.) I'm kind of sad that Intel went with the same Marvell controller as Crucial/Micron for their new 510 instead of sticking with an in house controller.

*Edit: Marvell is slowly making their way back into "OK" status with me as they release reliable SSD controller chips. They lost all cred with me when they released SoC's for NAS's that connected every interface via USB hub. So USB, LAN, SATA, all of it ran over an internal. Made for absolutely abysmal performance. Horrible horrible decision on their part. With the C300 and a few other drives (Intel 510, C400, etc.) using their controllers and being somewhat reliable, I might be able to get over my urge to cringe when I hear the company name.
 
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I'd be more concerned that superbiz is the only seller listing these drives. Just because it's listed doesn't mean you're likely to see it any time soon.
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I was thinking the same thing myself. The 128GB and 512GB says ships in 1-2 days but the 64GB seems to be in stock if the page is accurate. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.
 
The M4 and the C400 are exactly the same drive, but you have them reversed. The correct notation is:

Crucial M4

Micron C400
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None of this means that there won't be a Crucial branded drive that has the same internal components with the controller 'tuned' differently.

Last line of the Anand's review......
Crucial, Micron’s retail arm, will be selling the C400 under its brand as the Crucial M4
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I was ready to order the Mushkin 120 GB drive for $225 (on sale) at NE when I saw the Micron listed above for $20 more. I haven't seen the tests, but the ones for the Intel 510 (same controller, right?) show some better and some worse performance compared to the Sandforce 1200s. Now the new Sandforce drives may come out soon and the Intel 510 review showed them to be tops across the board. I wish I knew if the prices for those would be in the realm of the Micron, but I doubt it. I want to stay in the $250 range or lower. Is the Micron drive worth $20 more than the Mushkin Callisto Deluxe?

This is my first SSD and my replacement Sandy Bridge MB is on it's way from the Asus RMA.
 
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