Crysis 2 multiplayer demo headed to pc!

brennok said:
Wow this game is bad. Nothing like gamespy, a lobby system, and aim assist.
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Don'tcha just hate it when shooters become approachable by even the wimpiest of PCs?

That's the real reason why there's all this nerdrage and technological testosterone. It's not the consoles - it's the portable PCs. Laptops and notebooks are why the hardcore gamers are horked off.

Unless you are going to build something like XBLA, PSN, or Battle.Net from scratch, a lobby system for MP is a must-have. IGN (by running GameSpy) already has such a system in place (which means that neither Crytek *or* EA has to build one). Further, it's not exactly something new for EA (they have used the GameSpyArcade lobby system for MP before) or even for Crytek (they use GameSpy for Crysis Wars' MP lobby system, or have you forgotten?)

And aim-assist is a definite useful (if not needful) if you are stuck relying on a trackpad (the default pointing device on most portable PCs). Notice that "console" never even came up.

Suddenly, shooters are no longer restricted to desktop PCs at all - let alone desktop PCs that cost on the far side of a thousand euros, or even a thousand US dollars.

For the second major series in a row, the hurdles just got seriously lowered.

And the elitists are screaming.
 
Superhuman said:
Anyone else not able to create an account? It just hangs at "Creating account" for me.

I knew it was gonna be bad the second I saw "Press START to Continue."
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I already had an account (MyCrysis has been in beta for a while - it's been the home for the official global Crysis 2 forums since the announcement of the game), so I simply used my existing account.

Your elististness is showing.
 
I'm being an elitist because I'm complaining about the most simple function of the game NOT FUNCTIONING?

LOL
 
Superhuman said:
I'm being an elitist because I'm complaining about the most simple function of the game NOT FUNCTIONING?
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I'm not entirely sure he understands what that word means.

Superhuman said:
Now I'm getting stuck at "Account is being created..." when I try to do so through the site.
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You got farther than I did. On the MyCrysis site, the "Create Account" button doesn't actually do anything when clicked.

EDIT: Nevermind. Scrolling up and down a bit fixed it. Interesting.
 
LeonHikari said:
It feels like CoD on Halo-roids.

Still sad there's no variable settings for graphics. Runs pretty well at 3840x800 instead of 5040x1050.
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Go to Options, -> Graphics (left side).

I bumped up the settings from 1024x768 to 1280x720 (I have a 16:9 aspect ratio display - having a 4:3 in-game aspect ratio simply does NOT cut the ketchup), which is *taller* than my typical resolution in either Crysis Wars or Crysis Warhead.

Actually, Halo is a pretty sensible point of comparison; the Spartan program is to the UNSF what Nanosuit 2 (and the original Nanosuit) were to Crysis 2 (and the original games of the Crysis Cycle, respectively) and what LandWarrior is to today's American special-operations forces.

The style of gameplay (of *any* of the Crysis games) is in no way comparable to any of the CoD games. If anything, they should be compared to the GRAW games (or Rainbow Six). Special operations or CT operations (in the case of Crysis 2, urban CT, especially the MP maps) - not typical jungle, desert, or company-level combat ala CoD. Other than the games I mentioned earlier, the closest any other game comes to the Crysis Cycle is Battlefield Vietnam (or BFBC2). Squad or platoon (at most) size teams - especially given the urban setting.
 
Superhuman said:
I'm being an elitist because I'm complaining about the most simple function of the game NOT FUNCTIONING?

LOL
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You were being an elitist because the complaint was NOT about the system not functioning (which is actually par for the course, unless you're Blizzard, which has had their own issues with BattleNet II), but about the system being there in the first place.

Debugging the lobby system is best done now, before launch, as opposed to under the even larger crush of a launch.
 
WorldExclusive said:
Are you new to Crysis? It never was a multiplayer blockbuster. Also Crysis Wars looked and played like shit compared to the single player game.
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Crysis Wars is a lot of fun if you enjoy BattleField type of games...

Especially Power Struggle - Mesa is a LOT of fun...
 
I think we have our answer as to why there was originally no pc port of the demo for this game judging from all the complaints about consolitis. I'll check it our tomorrow but I have to admit my enthusiasm has dwindled. :-(
 
Well, this ran surprisingly well, but since it was in DX9 mode I'm not surprised. But seeing auto-aim on my default just seems disgraceful and a slap to the PC FPS crowd. Elitist I know and I can turn it off, but did we really need this?

I'll only get this if the Mechwarrior mod transitions to this.
 
PGHammer said:
And aim-assist is a definite useful (if not needful) if you are stuck relying on a trackpad (the default pointing device on most portable PCs). Notice that "console" never even came up.
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1) Get a fucking mouse if you're going to play on a laptop. We shouldn't suffer cause some people are too stupid to get a mouse. I have a gaming laptop and I can guarantee that I have NEVER used the trackpad for games.

2) Console sure as shit came up. What do you call 'Press Start' on the title screen? Locked graphics settings? (They are locked, I don't consider 3 different settings without explanation customizable, nor is resolution considered customizing)
 
So when the sales tank on PC platform because the game is shitty, will Crytek come out and admit they made a shitty game?
 
devil22 said:
I can't create a new account, I can't reset my password (didn't even know I had a mycrysis account..), and so on, browser keeps timing out. Why do we have to go through this with every single game launch? Sigh...
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Yeah, its annoying. It wont create an account in game for me. I have made accounts for previous Crysis games, dunno if this is the same, even if it is fucked if I know my old username and password. Will have a go at the website instead.

Fail, Crytek, very fail.
 
refraxion said:
Cant even create an account. FAIL
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The website (heck, even the friggin FORUMS) are getting hammered.

I can't even log on to the forums (and haven't been able to since I found out that the demo has gone live).

With that being the case, sure doesn't sound like FAIL to me.

Get back to me in a week.
 
Tudz said:
Yeah, its annoying. It wont create an account in game for me. I have made accounts for previous Crysis games, dunno if this is the same, even if it is fucked if I know my old username and password. Will have a go at the website instead.

Fail, Crytek, very fail.
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It's called POPULARITY.

I haven't been able to get past the main site page since the demo download has gone live. (The saving grace for ME was that I already had an account set up - I had been watching the forums since the week of the leak.)

If you already had an account on MyCrysis.com, *that* is what you use to log in.

In other words, both typical and non-fail.
 
PGHammer said:
It's called POPULARITY.

I haven't been able to get past the main site page since the demo download has gone live. (The saving grace for ME was that I already had an account set up - I had been watching the forums since the week of the leak.)

If you already had an account on MyCrysis.com, *that* is what you use to log in.

In other words, both typical and non-fail.
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Could you take Crytek's genitals out of your mouth for a second?

It is a fail. You're telling me they had NO idea what kind of traffic their site would get? Stop defending them.
 
PGHammer said:
The website (heck, even the friggin FORUMS) are getting hammered.

I can't even log on to the forums (and haven't been able to since I found out that the demo has gone live).

With that being the case, sure doesn't sound like FAIL to me.

Get back to me in a week.
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Coming from a guy who doesn't know what elitist means.
 
SeaFoam said:
1) Get a fucking mouse if you're going to play on a laptop. We shouldn't suffer cause some people are too stupid to get a mouse. I have a gaming laptop and I can guarantee that I have NEVER used the trackpad for games.

2) Console sure as shit came up. What do you call 'Press Start' on the title screen? Locked graphics settings? (They are locked, I don't consider 3 different settings without explanation customizable, nor is resolution considered customizing)
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1A. Given the lower (in fact, MUCH lower) requirements, that won't be the case for a lot of noobs. (The minimum requirements are easily the lowest for a shooter in several years.)

2A. I've seen that in PC-exclusive games (mostly non-shooters) before. Again, it's newbie-friendly. (Or is that the REAL friggin issue?)

It's not the consoles - it's the upcoming influx of gaming noobs that has the [H]orde horked off.

The shooter has long been seen as the refuge of the hardcore gamer (and especially the hardcore desktop PC gamer).

With Crysis 2, it's more open than the NHL playoffs. (The National Hockey League is the only professional sports league where more than half the franchises qualify for the playoffs every year.) It's not just high-end desktops and gaming notebooks anymore - the minimum reaches very much down into budget-desktop and midrange notebook territory.

It started with strategy games (and was a large reason why folks accused Supreme Commander 2 of being too far from the TA and SupCom 1 roots) - the hurdles got lowered.

Now it's the shooter that saw the entry barrier get lowered more than it has in years. (In terms of working PCs meeting the minimum requirements for a shooter, I dont think it's ever covered as great a percentage, and especially not of laptops and notebooks.)

In both cases, consoles didn't have anything to do with why the hurdles got lowered.

What has EVERYTHING to do with lowered hardware requirements (and eased controls) is trying to grow the marketplace. That means bringing in folks that have never played strategy titles (or shooters) before.

Reality #1 - PC sales have basically been flat, and have been for several years. Midrange and higher-end PC sales have been in semi-decline year-over-year, despite actually decreasing in price also year-over-year.

Reality #2 - Portable PCs (not including subnotebooks and netbooks) are outselling traditional desktops, and are making up a growing percentage of overall sales.

Reality #3 - PC game sales have been falling. While piracy is often blamed, it's not the biggest cause. The biggest cause is that there is less time for gaming, and the gaming PC has become the business portable, if not two portables (one for work and one for school). How friendly historically have shooters been to portable PCs?

Crytek is still largely a PC-focussed game developer (have they ever developed even a console port prior to Crysis 2?) - however, even Crytek sees that they have to grow their base. Worse, they can't rely just on PC gamers (or even on desktop PC and console gamers combined) - while PC gamers are fickle, console gamers are even more fickle. That is why they are going after non-traditional expansions to their customer base - Crysis 2 is merely the first step. Consider that Crytek Seoul is going into the F2P MMO space with WarFace (based on the same CE3 used in Crysis 2). For an F2P MMO to succeed, it had better be portable-PC friendly. And if you are going to have more portable PCs, you are going to have to make it n00b-friendly.

It may be "evil", but it is, like it or not, a "necessary evil".
 
refraxion said:
Coming from a guy who doesn't know what elitist means.
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Elitist (adjective) - considering themselves a defender of tradition ("It's always been done this way."); resistant to change, even if they are well aware that change is necessary to survive.

While I like shooters just fine, there aren't as many like me (as a percentage of merely those that game on PCs) as there used to be. In terms of both percentages, and absolute numbers, the PC shooter market is in decline. In fact, the PC gaming market as a whole is in decline.

PC-centered activities (not the least of which is gaming) has competition for time; what it often loses to is using the very same PC for work or school. More often than not, the PC used for work or school is a portable PC - not a desktop. Given that, game developers have to grow the market. That means growing in the direction of new PC users (often on non-desktop PCs). That means going after users new to gaming. In short, that means marketing to n00bs.

I want the PC gaming market as a whole to survive. That means the decline has to be halted, if not reversed. That therefore means that N00bs Are Necessary. It means that going after users on portable PCs is a necessity. Portable PCs have lower resolutions than desktop PCs (due to smaller screens). Sticking to tradition (and being an elitist) puts me in the position of Canute and his broom against the tide - I am going to lose, and almost certainly drown. Drowning is certainly a line-of-duty no.

We have not always (in fact, I have never) been "elitist" in terms of PCs, let alone gaming on PCs. Since we have all actually been n00bs, how did we get here? What brought us into shooters in the first place?

PC gaming needs more sales. To grow, we need the n00bs - like it or not.
 
could it be that only accounts of people who had crysis 1 and played online work? my account works, but my friend has a ea & gamespy account and never played crysis 1 online. he cant get in.
 
qbert3 said:
could it be that only accounts of people who had crysis 1 and played online work? my account works, but my friend has a ea & gamespy account and never played crysis 1 online. he cant get in.
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I think its just the website can't deal with the traffic. I can't log in to reset my password, the connection just keeps timing out.
 
PGHammer said:
What has EVERYTHING to do with lowered hardware requirements (and eased controls) is trying to grow the marketplace. That means bringing in folks that have never played strategy titles (or shooters) before.

Reality #1 - PC sales have basically been flat, and have been for several years. Midrange and higher-end PC sales have been in semi-decline year-over-year, despite actually decreasing in price also year-over-year.

Reality #2 - Portable PCs (not including subnotebooks and netbooks) are outselling traditional desktops, and are making up a growing percentage of overall sales.

Reality #3 - PC game sales have been falling. While piracy is often blamed, it's not the biggest cause. The biggest cause is that there is less time for gaming, and the gaming PC has become the business portable, if not two portables (one for work and one for school). How friendly historically have shooters been to portable PCs?
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I'm sorry, but who plays PC games with a trackpad? And if they do, why do they need auto aim? Even if you do have a laptop, if you're playing a MP game you're going to be sitting at a table due to the requirements to have a steady internet connection so you can get a mouse. Hell, everyone I know myself included will choose to use a mouse even for basic desktop use, let alone gaming. I dont see why even if you're playing on a laptop you'd be playing with a trackpad, its like debilitating 100 people so the 1 retard who has a laptop and refuses to buy a mouse can play.

About the "noobs need help" thing, personally I dont think they do need aiming help. Not in the form of auto aim at least. The best noob help is a game like COD on hardcore where it only takes a couple of bullets to kill, taking the emphasis away from skilled aiming and putting it onto a shoot-first-kill-first bases.

Auto aiming is the domain of consoles not because there are noobs on consoles but because its a pain in the arse to aim with a controller.

Personally I think (and hope) that auto-aim becomes a server option, which will most servers will have turned off (like the original Crysis had an option for controllers only that no one used).

With auto aim on the game really wont have much of a long life as far as MP is concerned. I kinda hope Crysis does have a decent MP and some longevity in its MP. Crysis and Crysis Wars had pretty shit MP offerings and were ghost towns not long after release. I partly blame a lack of depth and partly blame high system requirements.
 
PGHammer said:
1A. Given the lower (in fact, MUCH lower) requirements, that won't be the case for a lot of noobs. (The minimum requirements are easily the lowest for a shooter in several years.)

2A. I've seen that in PC-exclusive games (mostly non-shooters) before. Again, it's newbie-friendly. (Or is that the REAL friggin issue?)

It's not the consoles - it's the upcoming influx of gaming noobs that has the [H]orde horked off.

The shooter has long been seen as the refuge of the hardcore gamer (and especially the hardcore desktop PC gamer).

With Crysis 2, it's more open than the NHL playoffs. (The National Hockey League is the only professional sports league where more than half the franchises qualify for the playoffs every year.) It's not just high-end desktops and gaming notebooks anymore - the minimum reaches very much down into budget-desktop and midrange notebook territory.

It started with strategy games (and was a large reason why folks accused Supreme Commander 2 of being too far from the TA and SupCom 1 roots) - the hurdles got lowered.

Now it's the shooter that saw the entry barrier get lowered more than it has in years. (In terms of working PCs meeting the minimum requirements for a shooter, I dont think it's ever covered as great a percentage, and especially not of laptops and notebooks.)

In both cases, consoles didn't have anything to do with why the hurdles got lowered.

What has EVERYTHING to do with lowered hardware requirements (and eased controls) is trying to grow the marketplace. That means bringing in folks that have never played strategy titles (or shooters) before.

Reality #1 - PC sales have basically been flat, and have been for several years. Midrange and higher-end PC sales have been in semi-decline year-over-year, despite actually decreasing in price also year-over-year.

Reality #2 - Portable PCs (not including subnotebooks and netbooks) are outselling traditional desktops, and are making up a growing percentage of overall sales.

Reality #3 - PC game sales have been falling. While piracy is often blamed, it's not the biggest cause. The biggest cause is that there is less time for gaming, and the gaming PC has become the business portable, if not two portables (one for work and one for school). How friendly historically have shooters been to portable PCs?

Crytek is still largely a PC-focussed game developer (have they ever developed even a console port prior to Crysis 2?) - however, even Crytek sees that they have to grow their base. Worse, they can't rely just on PC gamers (or even on desktop PC and console gamers combined) - while PC gamers are fickle, console gamers are even more fickle. That is why they are going after non-traditional expansions to their customer base - Crysis 2 is merely the first step. Consider that Crytek Seoul is going into the F2P MMO space with WarFace (based on the same CE3 used in Crysis 2). For an F2P MMO to succeed, it had better be portable-PC friendly. And if you are going to have more portable PCs, you are going to have to make it n00b-friendly.

It may be "evil", but it is, like it or not, a "necessary evil".
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Proof of any of this? You talk like EVERY console game sells 3 million plus. Doesn't happen. Most don't even hit 100k which is why dev houses(console at that) are closing left, right and center.. PC sales are not flat, maybe they don't buy CoD as much as PS360 gamers, but other stuff sells. Not to mention you only see retail(which is dead) not DD sales.

All it is greed. Crytek wasn't happy with the millions they made on Crysis and Warhead, and want more millions. With EA involved you know there is going to be DLC. Consoles(and iOS) are getting the support because they can shove garbage down your throat and it'll be accepted.
 
defiant007 said:
Won't even let me create an account......good job crytek :rolleyes:
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You could try manually creating an account at Gamespy. I was able to use my gamespy account that I've used for UT3 and Borderlands among other things.

I did read somewhere that you can create the account, but you have to restart before you can login.
 
TheBlueChanell said:
You could try manually creating an account at Gamespy. I was able to use my gamespy account that I've used for UT3 and Borderlands among other things.

I did read somewhere that you can create the account, but you have to restart before you can login.
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Tried that, but kept returning a message saying that my username cannot have invalid characters despite the fact that gamespy is perfectly okay with the characters used. :eek:
 
PGHammer said:
Reality #1 - PC sales have basically been flat, and have been for several years. Midrange and higher-end PC sales have been in semi-decline year-over-year, despite actually decreasing in price also year-over-year.

Reality #2 - Portable PCs (not including subnotebooks and netbooks) are outselling traditional desktops, and are making up a growing percentage of overall sales.

Reality #3 - PC game sales have been falling. While piracy is often blamed, it's not the biggest cause. The biggest cause is that there is less time for gaming, and the gaming PC has become the business portable, if not two portables (one for work and one for school). How friendly historically have shooters been to portable PCs?
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#1 - Care to provide a source for this information that takes into account all digital sales online. I think you'll find that overall PC revenue is on the increase year on year, the only metric that is declining is the relative sales compared to consoles, all that means is that the console market is expanding at a greater rate than the PC one, and not that the PC market is shrinking.

#2 - Again supply a source that shows that notebooks and netbooks are replacing PCs which are capable of playing modern game. The game capable PCs make up only a very tiny fraction of the total PC userbase. No one has posted evidence to show that there are less gaming machines on average than previous years.

#3 - PC game sales haven't been falling, B&M store sales most certainly have but that's because the PC being the industry leader is ahead of the curve and switching business models to digital distribution, DLC, microtransaction and subscription based models, the total money in PC gaming has been estimated to exceed all of the consoles combined across all of these business models.

You have to be really careful with these "facts" because a lot of times they're heavily skewed one way or another, they need careful interpretation.
 
Just played for a bit. No settings to adjust graphics quality, auto aim, and on screen "press start button"?

Crysis 2 = console port. Very sad but its a fact.
 
shawnoen said:
Just played for a bit. No settings to adjust graphics quality, auto aim, and on screen "press start button"?

Crysis 2 = console port. Very sad but its a fact.
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QFTMFT!!!

GARBAGE CONSOLE SHIT!!

Fuck off Crytek!!
 
PGHammer said:
Reality #1 - PC sales have basically been flat, and have been for several years. Midrange and higher-end PC sales have been in semi-decline year-over-year, despite actually decreasing in price also year-over-year.

Reality #2 - Portable PCs (not including subnotebooks and netbooks) are outselling traditional desktops, and are making up a growing percentage of overall sales.

Reality #3 - PC game sales have been falling. While piracy is often blamed, it's not the biggest cause. The biggest cause is that there is less time for gaming, and the gaming PC has become the business portable, if not two portables (one for work and one for school). How friendly historically have shooters been to portable PCs?

Crytek is still largely a PC-focussed game developer (have they ever developed even a console port prior to Crysis 2?) - however, even Crytek sees that they have to grow their base. Worse, they can't rely just on PC gamers (or even on desktop PC and console gamers combined) - while PC gamers are fickle, console gamers are even more fickle. That is why they are going after non-traditional expansions to their customer base - Crysis 2 is merely the first step. Consider that Crytek Seoul is going into the F2P MMO space with WarFace (based on the same CE3 used in Crysis 2). For an F2P MMO to succeed, it had better be portable-PC friendly. And if you are going to have more portable PCs, you are going to have to make it n00b-friendly.

It may be "evil", but it is, like it or not, a "necessary evil".
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What reality are you from kiddo? PC game sales have GROWN. The PCGA just release their annual report and sales jumped 20% over last year. Steam reportedly made a billion dollars in sales last year. Funny thing? PC was the only gaming platform to see an increase, everything else was down.
 
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