Duke Nukem Forever To Use Steamworks on PC

I bought my Balls of Steel Edition at gamestop because I was dumb and didn't order it online the day it came out. I am happy you can tie it to Steam though. :)
 
Meh.
I have gotten to where having to log into steam to play a game is a PITA. I usually by new games off Amazon (cheaper than steam usually even for the disc version!)
Since we moved out to the country our internet connection is pathetic. Downloading a game is a lost cause. I decided to get Supreme Commander 2 for my son because he loves RTS games (he is 5).
I found the disc version on Amazon for $4.00. Can't bet that with a stick!
He was all excited to play it but I found the game was "steam enabled" and forced you to log in to steam where it proceeded to do a 4 gig download. It took all day. There was no option I could find that you could play the game without first doing this. That just sucks.
 
Meh.
I have gotten to where having to log into steam to play a game is a PITA. I usually by new games off Amazon (cheaper than steam usually even for the disc version!)
Since we moved out to the country our internet connection is pathetic. Downloading a game is a lost cause. I decided to get Supreme Commander 2 for my son because he loves RTS games (he is 5).
I found the disc version on Amazon for $4.00. Can't bet that with a stick!
He was all excited to play it but I found the game was "steam enabled" and forced you to log in to steam where it proceeded to do a 4 gig download. It took all day. There was no option I could find that you could play the game without first doing this. That just sucks.

Actually you can beat that got the digital for 4 and the dlc for 2 during a steam crazy sale that probably forced amazon to sell the disc so cheap.
 
I have said this in other steam forums. I LOVE steam!! It has gotten so bad I only buy PC games if they are sold through steam (OK sometimes on rare occasion D2D). I don't think I will ever buy a PC game on a physical media again.
 
Team is great for people who lose or scratch their discs. But for some people, like us in Canada, with our ridiculously slow and bandwidth-capped connections.. Steam sucks.

When I last formatted my PC, the download of Black Ops was in the neighborhood of 12GB. Many people I know have 25-30gb caps for the month. FAIL! :(
 
This is good news in my book. The games that I do buy, I keep so having ability to download it via Steam is great. I used and really loved the ease of use that Steam offers ever since HL2. In fact, I had Dark Messiah of Might and Magic which is also a Steamworks game it saved me because my game discs got lost. Honestly, I can't think of any friends that I know who sells their used games.
 
Actually you can beat that got the digital for 4 and the dlc for 2 during a steam crazy sale that probably forced amazon to sell the disc so cheap.

Yeah, you can get some deal when they run some specials, but still you have to have some bandwidth to download them. I have 1M bit/s down and 0.1 m bit/s up. I have trouble watching a YouTube vid most of the time. Forget downloading anything. :(
It is what it is. The thing that REALLY pisses me off is Charter broadband is install in the school literally on the other side of the fence. They WILL NOT make it available to us. :mad:
 
Good news, means that game wont leak out for pc at least before it unlocks, but im sure console versions will leak a week or even earlier like usual..
 
I'm another of the minority that doesn't think adding Steam DRM is awesome. It's still DRM.

I passed on Civ V for it, despite Civ being one of my favorite games. I'm passing on Dragon Age 2 for the same reason, despite DA:O being my favorite game of the last 5 years or so.

I refuse to pay full ownership price for something I don't really have ownership of. I will pay rental price - say $10 or under, maybe - for a DRM'd game, but that's it.

Lately, I don't buy much in the way of PC games for this reason.

It's about the principle of the matter.

I hope you realize that DA:O PC has DRM as well.

This type of system (DRM, CD Keys, etc) is coming to the consoles eventually, and in ways is already here. How do you resell your Live Arcade games? Publishers loathe the used game market, and will do all they can to eliminate it.

As for the topic, I'm Steam-neutral. I like Steam, I'm not a rabid fan like some because Steamworks enforces the Steam monopoly, which in the long run is not healthy.

I believe that competition in the online game distribution space is good, and several vendors will not offer games that include Steamworks, which really limits your purchase options.
 
Works for me. I lovin me some Steam.. I haven't bought a boxed game in years and never will. If it ain't on steam I don't buy it.
 
Team is great for people who lose or scratch their discs. But for some people, like us in Canada, with our ridiculously slow and bandwidth-capped connections.. Steam sucks.

When I last formatted my PC, the download of Black Ops was in the neighborhood of 12GB. Many people I know have 25-30gb caps for the month. FAIL! :(

I live in Canada and I have no problems with steam. If you are formatting your PC it is very easy to either copy your steamapps folder to a backup drive or to use the utility in steam. Either way it is much quicker than downloading everything again.
 
I have no problem with the STEAMWORKS security, well only that one time with FEAR 2, still got it registered at an obscure hour of the morning though, everyone else had gone to sleep.
 
Excellent news. I love Steam and don't care that I can't easily sell my games. The benefits FAR outweigh that disadvantage.

this. not being able to sell it is a major disadvantage but it more then counter balanced by the convince. I don't tend to sell my games to start with.
 
That's fine. I don't buy steamworks games. I don't support any system that requires the internet to install/play a game. I used to live in the boonies with no internet access so I can sympathize with the ones who are still in this predicament.
 
I hope you realize that DA:O PC has DRM as well.

This type of system (DRM, CD Keys, etc) is coming to the consoles eventually, and in ways is already here. How do you resell your Live Arcade games? Publishers loathe the used game market, and will do all they can to eliminate it.

As for the topic, I'm Steam-neutral. I like Steam, I'm not a rabid fan like some because Steamworks enforces the Steam monopoly, which in the long run is not healthy.

I believe that competition in the online game distribution space is good, and several vendors will not offer games that include Steamworks, which really limits your purchase options.

At least with DA:O it was a disc check only. No calling home to authenticate to a server you have no control over whether it exists and whether it can respond or not. The only thing you need to work is YOUR computer.

I don't resell Live Arcade games, but I don't pay huge prices for them either. They fall into rental category (normally $4-$8 or so on discounted points cards).

I'm sure car companies would love to get rid of the used car market, appliance manufacturers would like to get rid of the used appliance market, etc. That doesn't mean we should support it. Somehow in the PC world everyone is jumping with joy to lose their first sale rights, and to be treated like a criminal by default.
 
pretty sure da:eek: required a bioware account. if not to play the game then definitely for protected content
 
pretty sure da:eek: required a bioware account. if not to play the game then definitely for protected content

Only for DLC. Which I bought none of for this reason. I'm a little annoyed that I'll probably have to hack the game some years from now to play Shale's part of the game (free DLC with purchase), but hopefully it won't be too hard to do.
 
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