Jump to a 580GTX or go Sandy?

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SportDerek

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Currently have:

920 stock
Asus P6X58D
9 GB RAM
EVGA 285 stock

Mostly used for games.


Jump to a 580GTX or wait for the correct Sandy Bridge setup and go 2600K?

Survey says?
 
Why not overclock the 920 and go with the 580? I'm not sure a SB upgrade will give you too much of a boost with your current setup.
 
overclock that cpu and get a 580 but that is without knowing your resolution and psu.
 
I'd go for the 580. The Sandy processor has been much more Vag then Bridge from what I can tell.
 
Corsair AX850
2405fpw

I was toying with the idea of OC'ing and I do have a Thermaltake TRUE 120 on there... but I need to reread the how to for that. My previous attempts it'd never boot up. Seems like the logical step.
 
SB is a waste for 1366 owners. Stay with your current cpu until Ivy Bridge at least.

Have you updates the BIOS on your motherboard?

The last several versions all claim to improve stability.
 
yep, keep the 920 which still very decent and you can OC it for now if more performance is needed.

As above post, Ivy Bridge will come out in Q4'11 or Q1'12, and personally I think that's worth more to skip one generation in between.
 
Wait. You have an i7 920 and a TRUE 120, but you haven't overclocked? You should be arrested! :p

As others have said, skip SB entirely and get a new video card.
 
jbz7890 said:
Wait. You have an i7 920 and a TRUE 120, but you haven't overclocked? You should be arrested! :p
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LOL that's what i was thinking... alot of folks who DO o/c don't even have that nice of a cooler...
 
When OC'ing your 920, remember the qpi/vtt voltage. I found that a higher voltage there allows for much reduced cpu vcore and can stabilize an oc that vcore alone won't.
 
No point in upgrading from 1366 to sandy, go with the 580 and you'll get more of a performance benefit... Especially upgrading from a 285.

Also, as others suggested, bump up some overclocks on that 920. 3.6ghz should be easily obtainable and you should get at least 4.0ghz.
 
No reason to buy a GTX580, they're a silly purchase on their own. Two $250 cards are vastly better, be it a pair of HD6950s or a pair of GTX560Tis.
 
1366 to 1155 have does not have significance increase..

OC it up and grab a GTX 580 then call it a day..

PS: I wouldn't purchase a GTX 580 now if I am u... there are rumors on the street that GTX 580 will cut the price pretty soon.
 
I was just about to say don't buy the 580GTX or the Sandybridge. The 580GTX is too expensive at the moment and the SB cpu will not be huge increase in gaming over the 920.

I would get the 570GTX if you want a single card and use the left over money to buy either the Ivy bridge or the bulldozer when it comes out.
 
reaper12 said:
I was just about to say don't buy the 580GTX or the Sandybridge. The 580GTX is too expensive at the moment and the SB cpu will not be huge increase in gaming over the 920.

I would get the 570GTX if you want a single card and use the left over money to buy either the Ivy bridge or the bulldozer when it comes out.
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After seeing his resolution I would have to agree with you, a 570 would be a better bang for the buck but if he has the money this is [H]ardforum ;)
 
[H] it may be, but a GTX580 is still a bad idea, even in that context. Two $250 cards from either brand will smash the 580 at anything.
 
I'd go for one or two 6950 2GB's as opposed to a GTX 580. A Sandy CPU really isn't worth the money unless you are consistently doing CPU-heavy tasks (lots of encoding, etc.), and definitely not for gaming. The GTX 580 is a beast, but as others mentioned it's horribly overpriced. A 6950 2GB unlocked and overclocked can hit GTX 580 performance for about half the price.
 
I read this thread & not a single person or the OP mentioned the Resolution your going to be running. If the set of 6950s or a 580 would be overkill.

Whats your Res I would say go to for the 6950 2GB & unlock it. I just ordered one myself
 
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SportDerek said:
Currently have:

920 stock
Asus P6X58D
9 GB RAM
EVGA 285 stock

Mostly used for games.


Jump to a 580GTX or wait for the correct Sandy Bridge setup and go 2600K?

Survey says?
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New video card definitely for the money. But not a 580GTX. that is a suckers card really. you can get a 570GTX for 315 AR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162070 . the 580GTX is in NO way worth 185 dollars more. pure BS. AMD is probably the best value right now but its followed by a hairs breath by the 570GTX. the only justification for the 580GTX right now is multi monitor balls to the walls systems. and even that only with the 3gb versions. if you don't like AMD they stay with the 570GTX.
 
4LC4PON3 said:
I read this thread & not a single person or the OP mentioned the Resolution your going to be running. If the set of 6950s or a 580 would be overkill.

Whats your Res I would say go to for the 6950 2GB & unlock it. I just ordered one myself
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In post 7 of this thread he said he has a 2405fpw.
 
Personally I went with a GTX 580 because I game at 2560 x 1600 and don't want to bother with SLI/Crossfire power requirements, driver issues, microstuttering, etc.

Sure, it is an expensive card, but it is very powerful. Also, those of you recommending that you overclock a 6950 forget that the GTX 580 is a hell of an overclocker as well.

Each person should go with the card that fits their requirements best. For me it was the GTX 580.
 
darklight_tr said:
Personally I went with a GTX 580 because I game at 2560 x 1600 and don't want to bother with SLI/Crossfire power requirements, driver issues, microstuttering, etc.

Sure, it is an expensive card, but it is very powerful. Also, those of you recommending that you overclock a 6950 forget that the GTX 580 is a hell of an overclocker as well.

Each person should go with the card that fits their requirements best. For me it was the GTX 580.
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I agree with you and made a similar decision to get a 580, but this guy is playing at 1920x1200 so the 580 might be a little overkill.
 
You have $500 to spend on a video card, but not $100 to spend on the correct motherboard for your situation. Again, wrong decision was made. Buy an HD6950, spend the extra on the motherboard, still have $100 left over to save up for a second card, or put towards something else, outside the hardware environment, or perhaps a RAM upgrade or SSD. At 2560x1600 an HD6970 is barely 10% away from a GTX580, and uses a good 80W less power in many cases.
 
OC, get a 570, and used the saved cash for an SSD or anything else if you already have one :)
 
samuelmorris said:
You have $500 to spend on a video card, but not $100 to spend on the correct motherboard for your situation. Again, wrong decision was made. Buy an HD6950, spend the extra on the motherboard, still have $100 left over to save up for a second card, or put towards something else, outside the hardware environment, or perhaps a RAM upgrade or SSD. At 2560x1600 an HD6970 is barely 10% away from a GTX580, and uses a good 80W less power in many cases.
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Haha, I actually would have gone with a 69xx but I get free gift cards every few months from office depot and the best card they had at the time was a 580 and I am gonna upgrade my motherboard, cpu, and ram next time I get a card from them. That's how I got my spiffy monitor.
 
People love to state "overkill" on this forum. WTF is wrong with you people - this is the wrong forum to be saying something is overkill especially when it comes to PC components on a forum like this. There's no such thing as overkill, there is ONLY better value.

Also saying the 580 would be wasted at that resolution is also silly. The fact that even at lower resolutions on any given game, you see a FPS difference between say a 580 and a 560 means it still makes a difference, period. And you can ALWAYS crank up AA, multisampling, anisotropic filtering, etc to the moon.
 
Overclock 920 to 3.8-4.0GHz depending on cooling & grab an GTX570. Currently like others have stated, you're not using the full potential of the system even once you get a new video card.
 
KVW said:
People love to state "overkill" on this forum. WTF is wrong with you people - this is the wrong forum to be saying something is overkill especially when it comes to PC components on a forum like this. There's no such thing as overkill, there is ONLY better value.

Also saying the 580 would be wasted at that resolution is also silly. The fact that even at lower resolutions on any given game, you see a FPS difference between say a 580 and a 560 means it still makes a difference, period. And you can ALWAYS crank up AA, multisampling, anisotropic filtering, etc to the moon.
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^^ this

I think it's because ppl buy less and think "hell even I dont need that, so why would he"

Also... advising a guy who dont know if its better to get gtx 580 or Sandy, and who sits on factory clocked i7-920 to enter Crossfire domain ... LOL
 
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