Best simulators? Flight/Driving?

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What are the best simulators? Both flying and driving? Got an eyefinity rig setup and want to try a few out.
 
Wow, 2x 6950s. Jealous :D

I really like Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 2 for a combat flight sim. People claim it's not too realistic but it does a good job of hiding that from me.

X-plane 10 has been "about to come out" for a while...
 
Microsoft's Flight Simulator X runs on just my single 6950 3x1920x1080 on pretty high settings. Get some good mods for it and you'll have a hell of a time.

Racing, I've heard great things about F1 from Codemasters.
 
For flight sims, though its a helicopter game DCS: Black shark. For racing Rfactor or the hopefully soon to be released Rfactor2, there is also Iracing but you gota pay a monthly fee for that one.
 
nobody_here said:
last time I checked iRacing was stupid expensive....like $100 per year....
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Uhhh, it's $12 per month which is on par with any other subscription based online game. Plus there's nothing to buy up front like WoW or other MMOs. You do have to pay a one time fee of $12 also for each additional track or car but you get plenty to have fun with for free.

It's by FAR the best racing sim ever to be released on PC when you factor in the size and organization of its online community, if online racing is your thing anyway.
 
Colonel Sanders said:
Uhhh, it's $12 per month which is on par with any other subscription based online game. Plus there's nothing to buy up front like WoW or other MMOs. You do have to pay a one time fee of $12 also for each additional track or car but you get plenty to have fun with for free.

It's by FAR the best racing sim ever to be released on PC when you factor in the size and organization of its online community, if online racing is your thing anyway.
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Online racing is my thing. Paying $ per month to the tune of $100 a year for the basic subscription, then having them get you for $10-15 for a track or a car on top of that, then if you want to use any sort of wheel setup worth a damn you're into it for much more now.

So to get a good wheel setup....a cheap one, $150 + $100 year subscription(this assumes I don't want any more cars or tracks) is $250 in my first year. And after a year I have the wheel and if I don't subscribe again I can't even get any good out of the $100 I spent last year?

I guess the problem I have is with the entire subscription based game model to begin with. I detest WOW or EVE or any of those things......but I am an avid racing fan. Enough that I have even actually been considering trying out the buy 1 get 2 free deal and maybe picking up a 360 wired controller so I can try it out. But ill be honest, $7.50 a month is more than I spend on changing the frigging oil in two cars bro.......its almost equal to my monthly Vonage phone bill which is $12 a month. I find it hard to come up with the $36 a year it cost me to renew our Xbox Live annual subscription, not the money part but its hard to even justify it. The only thing that does is our Netflix streaming.

Realistically someone like me would end up spending several hundred bucks in the first year because I'm such a racing nut ill end up wanting a wheel and more tracks and more cars etc...etc.....
 
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nobody_here said:
Online racing is my thing. Paying $ per month to the tune of $100 a year for the basic subscription, then having them get you for $10-15 for a track or a car on top of that, then if you want to use any sort of wheel setup worth a damn you're into it for much more now.

So to get a good wheel setup....a cheap one, $150 + $100 year subscription(this assumes I don't want any more cars or tracks) is $250 in my first year. And after a year I have the wheel and if I don't subscribe again I can't even get any good out of the $100 I spent last year?

I guess the problem I have is with the entire subscription based game model to begin with. I detest WOW or EVE or any of those things......but I am an avid racing fan. Enough that I have even actually been considering trying out the buy 1 get 2 free deal and maybe picking up a 360 wired controller so I can try it out. But ill be honest, $7.50 a month is more than I spend on changing the frigging oil in two cars bro.......its almost equal to my monthly Vonage phone bill which is $12 a month. I find it hard to come up with the $36 a month it cost me to renew our Xbox Live annual subscription, not the money part but its hard to even justify it. The only thing that does is our Netflix streaming.

Realistically someone like me would end up spending several hundred bucks in the first year because I'm such a racing nut ill end up wanting a wheel and more tracks and more cars etc...etc.....
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Well its really not just the game your getting for that money, they hold organized races sanctioned by an online committee, there are rules just like in real races, every thing is simulated.There are also win prizes etc, one guy even got a spot racing for volkswagon in a touring car race after winning a season on it. From the sound of it I think Rfactor may be the game you're looking for its very similar as far as realism and theres no monthly sub, its got a huge modding community as well as many groups that organize racing series and other multiplayer events. Rfactor 2 is coming out soonish but I think the first one is only like 30 bucks so its worth it if your looking for a hard core racing sim on the pc.
 
You can earn up to $40 per year with iRacing, so paying for the extra content isn't really that much of an issue. If you play it enough, you'll get the money to spend on content to play it even more. You can also sign up for the 2 year deal at $180, which is roughly $7.50 per month to play.

Granted I think it would be better off it is was just a one time fee to play the game, like any other old game, but it does give a piece of mind that the developer will continue to update/support is since they're continuously making money on it.

This is the steering wheel I use and it's only $130.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...logitech_driving_force-_-79-212-013-_-Product
Granted it's currently out of stock, pretty sure it'll get restocked soon and free shipping on it as well. It gets the job done, although I would LOVE to have a G27...
 
arachn1d said:
What are the best simulators? Both flying and driving? Got an eyefinity rig setup and want to try a few out.
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As far as flight sims are concerned, it depends a lot on what sort of sim you want. Sims based around modern fighter aircraft are different from WW2 sims. Personally my preference is for WW2 and I would recommend that you wait for IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover to be released near the end of March. It'll be the best WW2 sim in existence for some time after its release (much like its predecessor was).
 
Wait for reviews, but possible TDU2 might fit the bill in just nine days.

For fun - TDU1. Whether sim to some or arcade for others, it's still great fun either way.

But yeah, TDU2 is supposed to be more sim and less arcade.
 
Tolyngee said:
Wait for reviews, but possible TDU2 might fit the bill in just nine days.

For fun - TDU1. Whether sim to some or arcade for others, it's still great fun either way.

But yeah, TDU2 is supposed to be more sim and less arcade.
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was in beta, TDU2 is absolutely NOT sim. 100% arcade.
 
4saken said:
was in beta, TDU2 is absolutely NOT sim. 100% arcade.
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Oh, I was in the beta and it was hard to tell. I do rem I wasn't impressed, but was hoping something would change.

This is why I said "wait for reviews" though. I'd like to know why the cars were so hard to control then if it's still arcade. Looks like I may be skipping TDU2.
 
Dirt 2 is a ton of fun. On the flight side Wings of Prey is a blast. Neither of those games is very sim, but they sure do look nice (and both work out of the box in eyefinity). I've been playing a ton of Wings of Prey lately (just got TrackIR for a complete hotas/pedals/head tracking/eyefinity setup) :) I also have come to love shuttling people in the blackhawk in arma 2.

edit: Don't know why I wrote Wings of Fury, it's Wings of Prey.
 
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Richard Burns Rally. Flight sim black shark if you are a chopper nut otherwise hard to beat the FSX for variation. or IL 2 for combat.
 
downloading RFactor Trial, just picked up a 360 controller for Windows, we'll see how it goes. i can get RFactor for $25 once but that only gets me three months, actually 5 with current promo on iRacing.....is iRacing really THAT much better than RFactor? i mean....thats a TON of money.....$25 once or $100 a year every year
 
nobody_here said:
.....is iRacing really THAT much better than RFactor?
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Yes. rFactor is a good sim, but not without mods. Mods are hit and miss, and online racing is an exercise in modding version hell. And online racing outside of a league is just...."interesting". Not to say iRacing rookie ranks are immune from stupid drivers, but there are ramifications for stupidity. Which are more notcable the higher up you get in licensing.

The other thing I love is- it is like an MMO in that your subscription does get you constant updates. Not the added content, but they do release free content often, and the game is patched, updated and progressed.

rFactor and the like release a patch or two, and that is it until the next game is released.

Personally, I prefer GTR2 for offline and iRacing for online.
 
i tried it, couldnt join a game, everyone kept saying you need mods....i want to play the standard game, not any mods......never could join a game....strange game, offline was pretty good though

will try GTR2, have heard lots of people mention that one too
 
GHarris said:
As far as flight sims are concerned, it depends a lot on what sort of sim you want. Sims based around modern fighter aircraft are different from WW2 sims. Personally my preference is for WW2 and I would recommend that you wait for IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover to be released near the end of March. It'll be the best WW2 sim in existence for some time after its release (much like its predecessor was).
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+1 Seconded.
 
so i used the buy one month get two free deal about three weeks ago for iRacing....figured it was worth $12 to try it out to see if it lives up to the hype

one word, very disappointed, ok thats two words... :)

Pros:

damage model is somewhat accurate
sounds are decent
tire physics model is realistic
they say the tracks are realistic(how would anyone know unless they are a real race car driver?)

Cons:

graphics are really dated, very little control over graphics details, they control graphics like most people do who don't appreciate their eyes....by dropping the resolution instead of the detail so if your pc cant handle native resolution for your monitor it looks like ass (mine had no problem running everything maxed but i found the lack of settings annoying and it only recommends graphics based on resolution)

no repairing in pit....garbage if you ask me, it's 2011 for cryin outloud, im not paying $100/yr for a simulation that touts itself as being the Premier sim, sets the bar....but you can't choose to repair your car? not realistic at all. so as a beginner you get one repair, after that, some noob slams you in lap 3 and borks your car up? oh well, forfeit or end up fighting it and causing more people to wreck, so you lose rank.....

nobody uses their mic.....only time you hear anyone is after they get hit, they yell, nobody is calling out "hey im on your left", or "exiting pits". I got much better and professional gameplay playing Forza 2 on Xbox Live no joke! if you use the mic regularly expect to be the only one talking.....if you want to hear them talk hit them...lol

basically requires wheel/pedals to enjoy, so on top of $100/yr for the app you should also budget for a wheel/pedal setup. i swapped an old 19" LCD monitor lying around for a used Logitech Drive FX setup. so i am out my old unused monitor and $12....not too tore up over that and ill have it for NFS Shift 2 Unleashed

You get like two cars and three tracks to start, want to race that other race over there everyone else is racing in? Pony up another $12 per car and per track. WTF!? People whined about Xbox Live Forza 2 DLC packs where for $5-$10 you got something like 6 tracks or 10 cars......man those were a bargain!

community is full of a bunch of tards who simply refuse to hear anything but good about the game/sim, don't criticize it at all or you'll be labeled as hater and they will shun you....LOL....or you get the rich guys who take it WAY too seriously and spend a few thousand bucks on an automated hydraulic seat and multi monitor setup

Races are only every hour usually, so if you miss it by two minutes it's going to be an hour wait for you. not really seeing myself having this kind of time to spend on it. Sucks when you wait that hour, go through qualifying, get into racing, and some tard slams you in lap 3....so your race is over, your rank is trashed, and you just spent a good hour and a half on that shit.....it's pretty lame

So basically this iRacing thing is pretty much garbage in my opinion. If I was a real race car driver and could appreciate the realistic tracks that would be neat. If I had many disposable hours of time to shit away and had $1000 to get what they consider a "proper setup" like a G25 or Fantec with triple monitors....maybe.....I could even overlook the really bland dated graphics if you had full car customization and repair ability but you don't.......so it's still ugly.

What puzzles me is I am really a pretty big simulation and car guy. I had really high hopes after spending literally years away from pc racing simulations. After years of Forza 2 on the 360 and not having a wheel/pedal setup I finally thought I was coming full circle. Finally I thought, I have a pc that can pretty much run anything I throw at it, and I got a wheel/pedal setup, and so I'm going to go try the "Worlds Premier Racing Simulation" I would say my hopes were set too high but everyone and even they themselves talk about iRacing like it's gods' gift to racing sims when it's more like jesus' hand-me-downs.

Boy they are really duping a lot of people man....it's sad the money they are making and knowing what I know about pc's and game technology and so on...which is no more than you guys....that for $100/yr per person not to include DLC revenue, that they can't do better than that....disgusting.
 
lol, man I couldn't disagree with you more on all of your points except this one:

Races are only every hour usually, so if you miss it by two minutes it's going to be an hour wait for you. not really seeing myself having this kind of time to spend on it. Sucks when you wait that hour, go through qualifying, get into racing, and some tard slams you in lap 3....so your race is over, your rank is trashed, and you just spent a good hour and a half on that shit.....it's pretty lame
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That is pretty annoying and honestly, this happened to me early last week and I haven't done a race since. I hate that I might end up spending an hour and a half on it when I get home from work looking to have some fun, and then not only have I wasted all that time for a reduction in rank and safety rating, it also leaves me in a grumpy mood for the rest of the night (and I'm guessing you came here to post this after just such a race, lol).

Anyway, it's hard to avoid that with the emphasis iracing puts on genuine, hardcore racing. They attract the best of the best in sim racers (and actual racers from NASCAR, Indy Car, etc etc) from across the world, so you better be GOOD before you try racing. That means putting a lot of time into practice and hot lapping sessions for each car and track combination, that's in addition to the time for qualifying and actual races. The Laguna Seca races they have for the Miata is set for 20 laps. That's roughly a 35 minute race.

It really just sounds like iracing is not for you. It really is the best there is if it's what you're looking for (hardcore physics modeling with in-depth leagues). You mentioned car customize-ability.. this is not the kind of game for that. It's not like Forza or something where you are going to be throwing different wheels and bumpers on your car. You get to paint your car however you want and change your car setup, and that's it.

edit: Oh yeah, one other thing. It does NOT take $1000+ for an iracing setup. I was actually competitive using a 360 controller. And there are wheels like the Logitech Driving Force GT that are around $100 and work great. And even on the high end, I paid $240 for my G27 which for 99% of people out there is as good as you'll ever need. I don't have a fancy 3 monitor setup, or a fancy race cockpit, just my wheel and my normal desk. Works great.
 
I have been an iRacing subscriber for a few years now and still enjoy it. Two of the things you mentioned are ones that really bug me.

1) Car + Track prices. I was content with the Rookie Solstice and Legend cars/tracks for the first season or two that I played, then I moved on to the Spec Ford and/or Skippy, which cost me some money in tracks. I do understand why they charge for cars and tracks, they have a lot of money invested in them. It costs them a few hundred thousand to laser scan the tracks and not sure how much on the cars. But after racing iRacing tracks and going to Forza 3 or GT5, their tracks cannot compare.

2) Race times can be a pain if you randomly sit down for a session and see you have to wait an hour for the next race. I haven't had any bad races in awhile where I got wrecked in the first handful of laps, but it does happen.

And to be honest, the only time I have had fun competitive races on Forza 3 is when a bunch of guys from a forum I go to started up a Spec Miata league, which was a lot of fun, but didn't last too long.
 
nobody_here said:
so i used the buy one month get two free deal about three weeks ago for iRacing....figured it was worth $12 to try it out to see if it lives up to the hype

one word, very disappointed, ok thats two words... :)

Pros:

damage model is somewhat accurate
sounds are decent
tire physics model is realistic
they say the tracks are realistic(how would anyone know unless they are a real race car driver?)

Cons:

graphics are really dated, very little control over graphics details, they control graphics like most people do who don't appreciate their eyes....by dropping the resolution instead of the detail so if your pc cant handle native resolution for your monitor it looks like ass (mine had no problem running everything maxed but i found the lack of settings annoying and it only recommends graphics based on resolution)

no repairing in pit....garbage if you ask me, it's 2011 for cryin outloud, im not paying $100/yr for a simulation that touts itself as being the Premier sim, sets the bar....but you can't choose to repair your car? not realistic at all. so as a beginner you get one repair, after that, some noob slams you in lap 3 and borks your car up? oh well, forfeit or end up fighting it and causing more people to wreck, so you lose rank.....

nobody uses their mic.....only time you hear anyone is after they get hit, they yell, nobody is calling out "hey im on your left", or "exiting pits". I got much better and professional gameplay playing Forza 2 on Xbox Live no joke! if you use the mic regularly expect to be the only one talking.....if you want to hear them talk hit them...lol

basically requires wheel/pedals to enjoy, so on top of $100/yr for the app you should also budget for a wheel/pedal setup. i swapped an old 19" LCD monitor lying around for a used Logitech Drive FX setup. so i am out my old unused monitor and $12....not too tore up over that and ill have it for NFS Shift 2 Unleashed

You get like two cars and three tracks to start, want to race that other race over there everyone else is racing in? Pony up another $12 per car and per track. WTF!? People whined about Xbox Live Forza 2 DLC packs where for $5-$10 you got something like 6 tracks or 10 cars......man those were a bargain!

community is full of a bunch of tards who simply refuse to hear anything but good about the game/sim, don't criticize it at all or you'll be labeled as hater and they will shun you....LOL....or you get the rich guys who take it WAY too seriously and spend a few thousand bucks on an automated hydraulic seat and multi monitor setup

Races are only every hour usually, so if you miss it by two minutes it's going to be an hour wait for you. not really seeing myself having this kind of time to spend on it. Sucks when you wait that hour, go through qualifying, get into racing, and some tard slams you in lap 3....so your race is over, your rank is trashed, and you just spent a good hour and a half on that shit.....it's pretty lame

So basically this iRacing thing is pretty much garbage in my opinion. If I was a real race car driver and could appreciate the realistic tracks that would be neat. If I had many disposable hours of time to shit away and had $1000 to get what they consider a "proper setup" like a G25 or Fantec with triple monitors....maybe.....I could even overlook the really bland dated graphics if you had full car customization and repair ability but you don't.......so it's still ugly.

What puzzles me is I am really a pretty big simulation and car guy. I had really high hopes after spending literally years away from pc racing simulations. After years of Forza 2 on the 360 and not having a wheel/pedal setup I finally thought I was coming full circle. Finally I thought, I have a pc that can pretty much run anything I throw at it, and I got a wheel/pedal setup, and so I'm going to go try the "Worlds Premier Racing Simulation" I would say my hopes were set too high but everyone and even they themselves talk about iRacing like it's gods' gift to racing sims when it's more like jesus' hand-me-downs.

Boy they are really duping a lot of people man....it's sad the money they are making and knowing what I know about pc's and game technology and so on...which is no more than you guys....that for $100/yr per person not to include DLC revenue, that they can't do better than that....disgusting.
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I think you are completely missing what makes a simulation a simulation and would disagree with everyone of your points except the hourly races which are sometimes hard to schedule yourself in time for. Sounds like you hopped in, kept spinning out, got pissed and quit. /rageon.

You know what getting knocked out on lap 3 is called? Its called a racing incident, and it happens in IRL. Crazy huh? You know what that also does for iracing? It makes everyone race much more realistically unlike forza et all where you can just barrel through the field and not worry about it. You are dissing iracing FOR its simulation aspects. I think you should stick to the faux sims it sounds like.

Now i dont think iracing is perfect, and it has many improvements id like to see, but overall its a great package for sim racing without having to deal with fucktards. Also the generally high level of competetion really makes it a serious racing game. Its the only sim racing game that i feel like im truly having a proper battle for position during a whole race.
 
no. I didn't get in and spin out. I drove quite well, earned some points, had a little fun. it was addictive for a few days and then the amount of time it takes to be involved combined with everything else I didn't like was enough to form a conclusion for me and I wanted to be one of the few people who would represent someone who isn't making excuses for it. everyone is entitled to their opinion. most games hold my interest in the first few days or not. iRacing quickly became a lengthy exercise, one that was only minimally rewarding for me. not even close to $100/yr worth.
 
it just didn't hold me. no it wasn't a rage post.....after a couple weeks the game lost its qualities, suddenly I realize I have to set aside hours of time any time I want to race. then you start to notice its bland graphics and realize in the first year you could easily be out of pocket several hundred bucks.....but the game isn't getting any better, its just more of the same. I'm just glad I'm only out $12 because if I had $300 in a wheel and $100 in a subscription and got bored with it two weeks later THEN you would see a rage post lol
 
Have you tried GTR2 yet? I've had fun with the SIMBIN titles (demos available on Steam). Race07, and to an extent, the STCC demo, were what got me to actually invest in a decent wheel/pedal set (fanatec Porsche). The graphics are a little dated, but that doesn't bother me too much as my machine is too. Plenty of cars to choose from (and highly customizable chassis settings), a good selection of tracks and from what I can tell a decent physics set. You definitely need to take the time to learn the cars/tracks as well or be prepared for a lot of frustration.

Online play is probably out as the game is a few years old, but they did release RaceOn not too long ago. Could be some forums out there who still schedule online races.

iRacing intrigued me, but I tend to shy away from subscription-based games, especially when I don't have the time to devote to them. I'd bet a lot of iRacers hardly play anything else. To truly get your money out of it I'm sure you'd have to invest both money and time.
 
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Have you tried GTR2 yet? I've had fun with the SIMBIN titles (demos available on Steam). Race07, and to an extent, the STCC demo, were what got me to actually invest in a decent wheel/pedal set (fanatec Porsche). The graphics are a little dated, but that doesn't bother me too much as my machine is too. Plenty of cars to choose from (and highly customizable chassis settings), a good selection of tracks and from what I can tell a decent physics set. You definitely need to take the time to learn the cars/tracks as well or be prepared for a lot of frustration.

Online play is probably out as the game is a few years old, but they did release RaceOn not too long ago. Could be some forums out there who still schedule online races.

iRacing intrigued me, but I tend to shy away from subscription-based games, especially when I don't have the time to devote to them. I'd bet a lot of iRacers hardly play anything else. To truly get your money out of it I'm sure you'd have to invest both money and time.
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i did try Race for the 360, it was garbage too, back then everybody that was playing FOrza2 but that had also been playing iRacing and GTR were all beside themselves over getting a SIMBIN game on the 360...and it turned out to be trash, you could drive 90mph into a wall and drive off only slightly damaged, you could continue to race....

i didnt mess with GTR and probably wont honestly, SIMBIN left a bad taste in my mouth

i hate to say it but GRID nearly nailed it in terms of damage model

yeah, i was looking for something to pull me away from the Crysis mod MWLL, which is a futuristic combat simulation that has a lot of the qualities a game needs. whats funny is it only has maybe 100 people on per night and maps rotations last a good hour, but you get to play for that entire hour, use tactics, the other teammates really communicate all the time, graphics are amazing if you have the system......and did i mention it's free?

i dont mind the time if im getting to play the entire time, but setting aside a block of time to qualify and race and then once in a while having some other putz put you out of that race in 3 laps after you spent an hour waiting to be in it....screw that man....i dont have the patience for that trash
 
nobody_here said:
you could drive 90mph into a wall and drive off only slightly damaged, you could continue to race....

i didnt mess with GTR and probably wont honestly, SIMBIN left a bad taste in my mouth
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I don't have an Xbrox so can't comment on that version of the game, though it sounds dumbed-down for the masses. The first time I tried the PC demo of Race07 I was pretty intimidated by the gameplay and customization options- was too used to arcade racers I guess. And when I put my touring car into the wall during a race on the PC version, my race is done. I'm pretty sure I have the damage setting maxed though.

I need to give MWLL a try one of these nights too, what's not to like about a MW game using the Crytek engine?
 
causticspill said:
I don't have an Xbrox so can't comment on that version of the game, though it sounds dumbed-down for the masses. The first time I tried the PC demo of Race07 I was pretty intimidated by the gameplay and customization options- was too used to arcade racers I guess. And when I put my touring car into the wall during a race on the PC version, my race is done. I'm pretty sure I have the damage setting maxed though.

I need to give MWLL a try one of these nights too, what's not to like about a MW game using the Crytek engine?
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yeah, it reminds you of old sims, back when you were lucky to have a joystick, when you had to print out a keyboard map for all the functions.....but it's very addictive especially if you're along time battletech/mechwarrior fan
 
Do you have any interest in vintage racing? Check out GT Legends (uses the GTR/Simbin engine) which focuses on the FIA GT historic series (think Shelby Mustangs, Ford GT40s, etc). GTR2 is a really good game too, it's nothing arcadey like the follow up Simbin games. Also, if you own both GTR2 and GT Legends (they can be found in a combo pack anyway), you can get a mod called Power & Glory which puts the cars of GTL into GTR2's better engine, and follows an original 1960's theme (except for the tracks which are all still the modern versions).

It's a ton of fun and best of all you can play single player and race whenever the heck you want. :)
 
Race On with GTR Evo along with GTR2 offers great online play too. Especially if you join up with a site like Racedepartment.com and hop in their scheduled daily/weekly races. Good group of guys over there consistently racing. Very high level of sim racing competetion too.
 
I can understand being a simulation fan and not being able to get into iRacing. The time and money commitment seems pretty huge if you actually want to get anywhere with it.

Yeah, real racing is more expensive and more time consuming and even worse if you crash out on lap 3 of a race... but real racing also has the adrenaline, the smell of fuel and oil, being surrounded by noise, smoke, grease, carbon fibre, etc.
 
nobody_here said:
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nobody uses their mic.....only time you hear anyone is after they get hit, they yell, nobody is calling out "hey im on your left", or "exiting pits". I got much better and professional gameplay playing Forza 2 on Xbox Live no joke! if you use the mic regularly expect to be the only one talking.....if you want to hear them talk hit them...lol
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Where you road racing or oval? I've heard that people on ovals won't shut up. I race on road, and people are pretty communicative there, though not everybody is.

basically requires wheel/pedals to enjoy, so ontop of $100/yr for the app you should also budget for a wheel/pedal setup. i swapped an old 19" LCD monitor lying around for a used Logitech Drive FX setup. so i am out my old unused monitor and $12....not too tore up over that and ill have it for NFS Shift 2 Unleashed
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You did ask about "simulators" though. Right? Any simulator that doesn't require something that closely approximates the real controls can't be considered a simulator. IMO of course.
 
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