Zuckerberg is Time Magazine's Person of the Year

eon said:
ok so what did he or facebook do this year that was different than past years?
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Though it has been around for a long time, it went mainstream this year. Multiple privacy setting issues kept it in the news a lot, farmville popularity, a movie about him, etc...

While he wouldn't have been my choice, I can see why.
 
zoobaby said:
Though it has been around for a long time, it went mainstream this year. Multiple privacy setting issues kept it in the news a lot, farmville popularity, a movie about him, etc...

While he wouldn't have been my choice, I can see why.
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And here I was thinking Facebook has been mainstream since at least ~2006 or so :p
 
Zarathustra[H];1036570015 said:
And here I was thinking Facebook has been mainstream since at least ~2006 or so :p
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grandma got on it this year....that makes it mainstream. :D But yeah, it has been popular for a while.
 
zoobaby said:
grandma got on it this year....that makes it mainstream. :D But yeah, it has been popular for a while.
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Seriously though.

Too many old people are starting to appear on Facebook.

I hate having to explain my wharrgarbl comments, tshirthell.com links, and Surprise Buttsecks remarks :p
 
Julian Assange is not Wikileaks, maybe the alpha male but not the pack. Bradley Manning was more of a bold and crucial actor, for better or worse.

I liked Sports Illustrated's pick of Drew Brees. This one is not nearly as relevant, though eh did just make his philanthropic pledge.

I'm not even sure how the CEO of a profitable company represents a year. Shouldn't it be someone who's struggling, clinging to a job?
 
Assange has not change the opinions of many people about their country's governments. His influence merely affects forum debates like here. Maybe a few DDOS attack for a number of days. That's about it.

News articles and forum debates. [sarcasm]Really changing the world we live in.[/sarcasm] The world is bigger than internet forums and internet articles.

What? He has more influence than that? Ok, his reach also extends rage for more terrorist recruits. Also to give material for propoganda and fear in those regions.
 
XamediX said:
I'm gonna go with the fact that you stated something as fact and couldnt even bother to know what you were stating. Therefore such things like constructive criticism are not deserving for a poster that proceeds in that way.
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XamediX said:
Well this helped me because I really didn't know about the situation as much as I do now.
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And here is where you should apologize for being a hypocrite. Stating a fact that someone didn't know their facts, without knowing the facts yourself.

Whether or not the charges were weak (and remember this is one foreign government basically thumbing their nose at the laws of another government), they were still brought against Assange and had nothing to do with espionage.

XamediX said:
To add to that, I would think that Time chose the Zucker because it would sell copies. There is only person as infamous as him right now and apparently that person is Assange.
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This however, I completely agree with. Time's person of the year is all about who is the most talked about person, the person who appears the most in headlines. With all the privacy issues, changes in Facebook, and the movie, Zuckerberg has been making huge headlines all year long. Assange also has the same value in this case having made huge headlines throughout the year for a number of leaks.

TwistedAegis said:
I have to agree with XamediX; to state that Facebook was merely lucky is just blind hate. It does social networking well, with a fairly good interface. And what it does really well is use all of that data to make money.

So, while the idea may seem blatantly obvious ex post facto, please present your business that you've run with even 5% of that success.
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I don't know how you can even remotely equate someone saying Facebook was merely lucky to "blind hate". That is an incredibly harsh statement. Secondly the success or failure of one person does not eliminate their ability to critique another's. If that was the case than 99% of the people would not be allowed to vote.

zoobaby said:
You better go arrest and charge almost every librarian whose libraries have access to old newspapers for illegally handling classified documents.
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That is not even close to the same thing. Assange got documents that were not released to the public, through "at best" questionable means, and most likely completely illegal means. Almost every nation in the world has very strict laws against espionage, which is why this is such a big deal. It is a classic case for investigating espionage. Libraries, on the other hand, have declassified or unclassified information, there is no espionage or questionable means there.
 
Jcricket said:
Zuckerberg is just a 20-something geek with dollar sings in his eyes and hardly a person of the year material. What I want to know is who is the real power behind Facebook and not who is the puppet king of Facebook.
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Its not about the most powerful or even the best person its more or less a fucking popularity contest.
 
zoobaby said:
They did tell you were wrong. :p

I'd hardly call those comments insulting. And definitely not worth getting your panties in a bunch over.

Back on topic: Assange would have been better imo. Hell, even the Tea Party (as much as I dislike them) would have been better.
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Sure, but they did so in a jackass way ;).

They are obviously meant as demeaning/insulting... it doesn't even require explanation.

Assange is a piece of dog ****... he's at best guilty of espionage and possibly rape, at worst espionage, gross irresponsibility that will affect diplomacy between nations for years to come (it already has started to), recklessness that endangers lives, and rape. He isn't doing it to "let the truth shine bright", and even if he were, see the previous statements. There's a reason the words "confidential" and "secret" exist.
 
NoOther said:
That is not even close to the same thing. Assange got documents that were not released to the public, through "at best" questionable means, and most likely completely illegal means. Almost every nation in the world has very strict laws against espionage, which is why this is such a big deal. It is a classic case for investigating espionage. Libraries, on the other hand, have declassified or unclassified information, there is no espionage or questionable means there.
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I should have written that better. There are news articles that have been classified but still exist on microfilm and other storage means. These still exist in many libraries. I wasn't talking about items that have been declassified.

GoldenTiger said:
Sure, but they did so in a jackass way ;).

They are obviously meant as demeaning/insulting... it doesn't even require explanation.
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Guess I've been hardened by arguing in the soapbox. :p
 
zoobaby said:
IGuess I've been hardened by arguing in the soapbox. :p
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I'm hardened on these kinds of forums too, but it doesn't mean it's "normal" in the real world, or polite/OK regardless. Unfortunately, virtually no one shares that view :).
 
THIS IS PATHETIC. Time has just lost all credibility and probably a shit ton of their remaining few readers after this bogus shit. Person of the fucking year to some guy who made society MORE unproductive with his basically USELESS website. It's only "useful" for people to spy on each other and waste fucking time at work. There was a study on facebook at work and it has overall DECREASED PRODUCTIVITY at the work place this year.

Richard Holbrook is a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better choice. He actually tried to benefit mankind this year, while this kid didn't do anything but donate to a school to appear nice (but all the money smart people know it was for tax breaks obviously)

Time sucks now, hands down. Useless trash I will but into the bottom of the barrel along with the "newspaper" you read while standing in line at the grocery store. The one that talks about chupacabra and godzilla coming alive :rolleyes:
 
ScratchDrive said:
THIS IS PATHETIC. Time has just lost all credibility and probably a shit ton of their remaining few readers after this bogus shit. Person of the fucking year to some guy who made society MORE unproductive with his basically USELESS website. It's only "useful" for people to spy on each other and waste fucking time at work. There was a study on facebook at work and it has overall DECREASED PRODUCTIVITY at the work place this year.

Richard Holbrook is a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better choice. He actually tried to benefit mankind this year, while this kid didn't do anything but donate to a school to appear nice (but all the money smart people know it was for tax breaks obviously)

Time sucks now, hands down. Useless trash I will but into the bottom of the barrel along with the "newspaper" you read while standing in line at the grocery store. The one that talks about chupacabra and godzilla coming alive :rolleyes:
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Sometimes it's nice to have a beer after work to unwind.
 
ScratchDrive said:
THIS IS PATHETIC. Time has just lost all credibility and probably a shit ton of their remaining few readers after this bogus shit. Person of the fucking year to some guy who made society MORE unproductive with his basically USELESS website. It's only "useful" for people to spy on each other and waste fucking time at work. There was a study on facebook at work and it has overall DECREASED PRODUCTIVITY at the work place this year.

Richard Holbrook is a MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better choice. He actually tried to benefit mankind this year, while this kid didn't do anything but donate to a school to appear nice (but all the money smart people know it was for tax breaks obviously)

Time sucks now, hands down. Useless trash I will but into the bottom of the barrel along with the "newspaper" you read while standing in line at the grocery store. The one that talks about chupacabra and godzilla coming alive :rolleyes:
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You sure are opinionated for someone who dont seem to have a clue what the fuck the man of the year is supposed to be. :rolleyes:

Since 1927, TIME Magazine has chosen a man, woman, or idea that "for better or worse, has most influenced events in the preceding year."
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It has never had anything to do with how much good the person has done. Its all about how much the person has been in the headlines etc. and like others have said between all the news of facebooks privacy issues etc. and having a fucking movie made about him its not a surprising pick at all.

Maybe before going off on a half informed rant you could figure out what you are even talking about first.
 
Sometimes it's nice to have a beer after work to unwind.
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What's your point? I have 2 cases of beer in my fridge. Good beer. I have better mood calming things anyways so I don't see how you think I'm mad for being upset at a bogus article.

Besides, beer makes most people cranky after the drunk fades off anyways :)

You sure are opinionated for someone who dont seem to have a clue what the fuck the man of the year is supposed to be.
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Uh, your post is totally contradictive and doesn't make sense.

Zuckerburg DOES NOT INFLUENCE a lot of people.... if anybody. Just because a bunch of sheep use his copy cat website doesn't mean he is influencial to everyone. That's quite sad and sheepish to say... I bet you're just biased and mad because my post is degrading your beloved puppet master. The guy hasn't influenced dick, really.. be real :rolleyes:
 
ScratchDrive said:
Uh, your post is totally contradictive and doesn't make sense.

Zuckerburg DOES NOT INFLUENCE a lot of people.... if anybody. Just because a bunch of sheep use his copy cat website doesn't mean he is influencial to everyone. That's quite sad and sheepish to say... I bet you're just biased and mad because my post is degrading your beloved puppet master. The guy hasn't influenced dick, really.. be real :rolleyes:
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HAHAHA you are fucking joking right? Not only is facebook just about as common as fucking email there was a high grossing movie about HIM. Every human that uses facebook or saw that movie was influenced by him. How can you get more influential than facebook and a movie thats been out a couple months and made almost $200,000,000.

I personally think hes a douchenozzle and refuse to see his stupid movie and think facebook blows but to say he has not influenced anybody is fucking stupid x10.
 
Wow, a movie?! I wonder who made that movie... oh wait, you wouldn't realize as you are part of the sheep movement of facebook who will throw any dollar or thought into facebook. Get the picture?

And the reviews before the movie came out, I wonder who posted all those (10 star, go figure!) reviews on imdb.

You eat it up, lol wow. I am not joking but you don't get the full picture of facebooks hidden advertising and mass spam marketing techniques...... clearly.

He has influenced anyone, like I said. He made people join his website because he had clever Harvard marketing dollars at work.

So using your logic, myspace's creator and/or James Cameron who made Titanic should be "man of the year" a few years ago for creating the same thing (popular social website) before zuckerburg, and a movie that made 10x amount of sales compared to that spam ass false story facebook movie.

COMMON AS EMAIL?!?!?!?!?!?! hahahahahaha, ARE YOU JOKING? Seriously, get real and realize what you're talking about (marketing, which you clearly don't know jack about, sorry)

Facebook does not even have half a billion users anyways..... and like I said, it was nothing but COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE to the majority of the world whom use it.

I can go on and on, but you will keep bringing up more false logic trying to convince me something I already know is bs.
 
ScratchDrive said:
What's your point? I have 2 cases of beer in my fridge. Good beer. I have better mood calming things anyways so I don't see how you think I'm mad for being upset at a bogus article.

Besides, beer makes most people cranky after the drunk fades off anyways :)
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Time magazine has basically always, always been crap. It has always been a reflection of the popular/polularity based media. Facebook is all about popularity, so I think, especially with how the movie was rated, the descision was unsurprising.

Good beer drinkers never get cranky, you should know this!
 
GoldenTiger said:
Assange is a piece of dog ****... he's at best guilty of espionage and possibly rape, at worst espionage, gross irresponsibility that will affect diplomacy between nations for years to come (it already has started to), recklessness that endangers lives, and rape.
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BRB, calling someone guilty of espionage and rape without a trial or any sort of due process...
 
NoOther said:
And here is where you should apologize for being a hypocrite. Stating a fact that someone didn't know their facts, without knowing the facts yourself.
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That is not being a hypocrite. It was obviously apparent from reading your post than the following ones. I probably should've stuck an "Apparently" there somewhere in my response. That is all. Don't get mad at me, I just broke down the situation. I'm not judging.


Disposed, half the people in this thread don't realize that. Even if someone pointed that out already. I just ignore them and hope they go away without posting again. I'm waiting on some of these arguments to produce some stuff for me to read though.

It is interesting to see so much blind hate from the [H] community over Facebook. With all these attacks that typically are used in the apply fanboy war, I am surprised. I know most computer nerds are absolutely terrified of being social any more than needed. I figured that facebook was the perfect mix of computer and social for it to take off in the CN realm. Apparently not. Or maybe the minority is that vocal. I'm going with the latter.
 
ScratchDrive said:
Wow, a movie?! I wonder who made that movie... oh wait, you wouldn't realize as you are part of the sheep movement of facebook who will throw any dollar or thought into facebook. Get the picture?

And the reviews before the movie came out, I wonder who posted all those (10 star, go figure!) reviews on imdb.

You eat it up, lol wow. I am not joking but you don't get the full picture of facebooks hidden advertising and mass spam marketing techniques...... clearly.

He has influenced anyone, like I said. He made people join his website because he had clever Harvard marketing dollars at work.

So using your logic, myspace's creator and/or James Cameron who made Titanic should be "man of the year" a few years ago for creating the same thing (popular social website) before zuckerburg, and a movie that made 10x amount of sales compared to that spam ass false story facebook movie.

COMMON AS EMAIL?!?!?!?!?!?! hahahahahaha, ARE YOU JOKING? Seriously, get real and realize what you're talking about (marketing, which you clearly don't know jack about, sorry)

Facebook does not even have half a billion users anyways..... and like I said, it was nothing but COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE to the majority of the world whom use it.

I can go on and on, but you will keep bringing up more false logic trying to convince me something I already know is bs.
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Even if all you say is true it changes NOTHING.

Theres no false logic theres facts and you acting like a 4 year old covering your ears and going LALALALALA.

How it all came to be does not fucking matter one tiny little bit. Facebook and even that stupid movie "THATS JUST AN ADVERTISEMENT BY THE MAN FOR FACEBOOK" have influenced more people than just about anything else has...

What out there is affecting more people? Like it or not facebook has become a part of our society and whether you want to live in denial or not that DOES affect the people that use it and even those that dont...

Theres a hell of a lot more to say about our society because of this than time for choosing him but in the end its all still true...
 
Also dont call me one of the fucking sheep just because i prefer to see reality as it is and not how i want it to be.

500 million users and a high grossing movie no matter how it came to be or what its purpose or use is something that has an affect on our entire society as a whole... Its even affected you since you have such clear animosity towards it. You yourself are a living example of someone influenced by the douchenozzle named Mark Zuckerberg.

Thanks for proving my point.
 
It aint a big deal, ive been time person of the year for a while now
 
Jcricket said:
The fact you had to use the roll eyes emoticon is reason enough not to want to discuss the matter with you. I suggest you do your own research if you are really interested to know what I allude to.
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What exactly are you going on about? What you are saying is fucking irrelevant. Whatever ulterior motives they have dont change anything...

Joe Stalin was named 3 times and it wasnt because he was a super good guy. :rolleyes:

Its like some people cant get past the fact that influential does not always mean GOOD.
 
SEALTeamSix said:
BRB, calling someone guilty of espionage and rape without a trial or any sort of due process...
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I think it's pretty easy to understand his connection with WikiLeaks, but I guess you aren't able to make that kind of simple connection. Besides, I'm not the judge/jury on his case, I can call him that and guess what, it has no legal bearing on him :rolleyes: so, nice forum warrior'ing but your grade is a solid F.
 
Also to add... I don't think anyone's really debating whether or not he did what he did on the whole Wikileaks thing ;).
 
Disposed said:
Try to understand that it simply dont matter one bit in this discussion. :rolleyes:
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True, I cant believe people are still using the, "he runs a business, and just wants your monies" rant again. Well no shit, its a fucking business. It is marketing heaven for me, moreso than google was.

And for everyone with sand in their vagina whining about facebook being only for sheeps and idiots, I just commented on Steve's wall.... on FB. /thread
 
Whats the point of allowing others to vote when they don't even intend to honor the result of the vote (unless it suits them)?

What a POS award.
 
Hornet said:
Whats the point of allowing others to vote when they don't even intend to honor the result of the vote (unless it suits them)?

What a POS award.
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Well you did see last years vote was hacked by 4chan right? There are too many ways to "rig" any sort of vote to make it work anyway.
 
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