Bad Publicity is a Good Thing

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An online retailer has a unique business plan: get a whole mess of complaints to rise up in Google pagerank. Tip: Make sure you research before you buy!
“Hello, My name is Stanley with DecorMyEyes.com,” the post began. “I just wanted to let you guys know that the more replies you people post, the more business and the more hits and sales I get. My goal is NEGATIVE advertisement.”
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More power to him.

If someone is stupid enough to buy designer stuff without checking seller references...
 
Stalking and threatening someone for wanting a return? Sounds like he needs a fucking shotgun to the face.
 
“Listen, bitch,” he fumed, according to Ms. Rodriguez.

--------^ hahahaha, great replies and service!
 
By the way, the IC3 (FBI internet fraud site) did nothing for me at all..... and I had 100% documented proof of the crimes too.
 
I cannot figure out how threatening sexual assault and stalking was ignored by the police department. Either that or the lady was too stupid to call the cops on that. But if she had just made that one call, it wouldn't have been such bad news bears.
 
Sounds like neither of you read the article.

The guy sounds like an internet lawyer who knows every loop hole and vague way of internet bullying with out getting into trouble with the law.

I don't agree with his practices but it does prove that our protection we have to help us against people like this aren't neccessarily helpful.
 
Ehh, all it will take now is one lawyer that reads the article. He'll file a class action lawsuit and sue the hell out of him for more than he'd make back in 5 lifetimes, with the thousands he's scammed getting a couple hundred each while the lawyer sits on a fat stack of millions with a smug smile on his face.
 
zxcvbnm44 said:
I cannot figure out how threatening sexual assault and stalking was ignored by the police department. Either that or the lady was too stupid to call the cops on that. But if she had just made that one call, it wouldn't have been such bad news bears.
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For the most part a threat has to be increadibly detailed to be taken seriously over an email. Same with the stalking, if you read later on (I have to admit some paragraphs I skimmed) all he used was a google - earth image of her apartment, he didn't actually perform stalking.
 
I'm surprised the NY AG hasn't shut him down. Maybe they will, once they read the article.
 
Um, committing fraud through the postal service is a federal crime. Mail fraud isn't something the feds take lightly. How can be be so ignorant as to talk openly about what he does? Visa/Mastercard/AMEX/Discover would easily shut down his merchant account if they were made aware of how he's abusing their system to commit fraud.

I can't believe no one has actually investigated this guy. Seems pretty easy to prove what he's doing.
 
zxcvbnm44 said:
I cannot figure out how threatening sexual assault and stalking was ignored by the police department. Either that or the lady was too stupid to call the cops on that. But if she had just made that one call, it wouldn't have been such bad news bears.
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RTFA. He was arrested:

New York state criminal court records show that Mr. Borker was arrested on Oct. 27, accused of “aggravated harassment” and “stalking” involving Ms. Rodriguez.
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He was released and still has to go to court.

TheCapulet said:
Ehh, all it will take now is one lawyer that reads the article. He'll file a class action lawsuit and sue the hell out of him for more than he'd make back in 5 lifetimes, with the thousands he's scammed getting a couple hundred each while the lawyer sits on a fat stack of millions with a smug smile on his face.
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He'd just file for bankruptcy and the class would get nothing. There's no way a lawyer is going to end up with a "fat stack of millions" from this guy.
 
And people wonder who would be stupid enough to get roped into a Nigerian scam? I have to give the guy props. Look at the NYtimes article, they actually state his website and add the requested keywords.

We had moved upstairs by then, to his office, a small room with a computer and walls lined with hundreds of eyeglasses in their cases. These are all returns, he says wearily. Prada, Oliver Peoples, Cartier, Tiffany. Maybe $500,000 in inventory, he guesses.

...and in his view $500k in advertising. Check out his website, legit enough. He said he had 120 sales in a day. Generalizing, if he gets 1 complaint a week, that isn't even a 1% failure rate.

Do you buy name brand ram or no-name knockoffs? How about if you were ordering ram for customers at a rate of 840 a week with a failure rate of less than 1? To even hit 1% you'd have to screw up 8 orders, all of which is simply buying and reselling (no inventory required).

It's difficult to see this as unlawful behavior on his part. He resells glasses which inevitably have a compliant rate lower than Geico or other large businesses. His manner in dealing with complaints is unsavory, but other than that... For every illegal action he takes, there are multiple routes a customer can take to be helped. The fact that many of these routes are ineffective are not his fault, but rather his opportunity. He has a pretty clear safeguard to his activities. Whenever he crosses the line of customer satisfaction as dictated by companies like mastercard or ebay, they rectify the situation. He shifts his responsibility to companies willing to guarantee his customers satisfaction on his part...
 
OK, the article is long, but it explains what he does. This guy, to put it mildly, knows all the tricks. Very amusing.
 
metalsmart said:
It's difficult to see this as unlawful behavior on his part.
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Ms. Rodriguez placed an order for both the Lafonts and a set of doctor-prescribed Ciba Vision contact lenses on that site, DecorMyEyes.com. The total cost was $361.97.

The next day, a man named Tony Russo called to say that DecorMyEyes had run out of the Ciba Visions...........I asked for a refund. He got rude, really obnoxious. ‘What’s the big deal? Choose another brand!’............ Soon after, she discovered that DecorMyEyes had charged her $487 — or an extra $125.



I don't know what third world country you live in, but selling something to someone for one price, and then charging them a different higher price without their consent is illegal.


metalsmart said:
For every illegal action he takes, there are multiple routes a customer can take to be helped. The fact that many of these routes are ineffective are not his fault, but rather his opportunity.
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Yeah, except when he illegally impersonates someone to try to prevent them from taking action.


“I’m going to contact my credit card company,” she told him, “and dispute the charge.”

Until that moment, Mr. Russo was merely ornery. Now he erupted.

........Someone posing as Ms. Rodriguez, she says, had called the bank and said she had changed her mind and no longer wanted a refund.
 
This guy is in dire need of a blanket party. I'll bring the ball bearings and socks. You guys bring the blanket and duct tape.
 
Why does stuff like this always happen to people that can't defend themselves? Just once I want to see an article that ends with something like "While trespassing and making threats, Mr Russo was promptly shot by Ms. Rodriguez. Funeral services will be held next Tuesday at Noon. Guests are expected to bring their own napalm."
 
Reading the reviews is pretty damn funny. This man is terrible.

This person the customer service rep from Decor My Eyes and Eye Wear Us Tony Russo also threatened me on my cell phone and home phone on numerous occasians after I disputed payment from my credit card for not recieving the glasses. I then reversed the disputed after his numerous threating emails and phone calls and started a case with UPS. I never got the glasses or the refund due to family issues and 8 months later, Tony Russo starts sending me emails and calling my home phone and my cell phone laughing at me that I never got my sunglasses or my refund to which he said he went out and had lobster with my money.
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ROFL!

What a smartassed d*ckhead.... he must have just got sick of life and became ultra-narcissistic. full of spite against the entire world based on a few measly bad times he went through.
 
wizdum said:
Why does stuff like this always happen to people that can't defend themselves? Just once I want to see an article that ends with something like "While trespassing and making threats, Mr Russo was promptly shot by Ms. Rodriguez. Funeral services will be held next Tuesday at Noon. Guests are expected to bring their own napalm."
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There was an article like that... i think it was in detroit... maybe last year or early this year... some guy broke into an old ladies house,,this she was in her 80's..she blew his ass away with a fucking shotgun as he was coming in the window... or something to that affect...i smiled all day after reading that...
 
"Soon after, she discovered that DecorMyEyes had charged her $487 — or an extra $125."
canna said:
I don't know what third world country you live in, but selling something to someone for one price, and then charging them a different higher price without their consent is illegal.
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I'm going with a "she said/he said" situation. If there was an extra charge, she should easily be able to dispute through proof and get a quick response. It sounds AWFUL that she got charged more, but what if the glasses were on sale and she got charged the full price, not the sale price. This happens often at B&Ms. At what point does it become illegal? Has he crossed that?

"........Someone posing as Ms. Rodriguez, she says, had called the bank and said she had changed her mind and no longer wanted a refund."
canna said:
Yeah, except when he illegally impersonates someone to try to prevent them from taking action.
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When asked for the recording of her conversation, they were unable to produce anything and would also would not work with her to get it resolved. Claiming that DecorMyEyes was the perpetrator is assuming too much.

The article gives one half of the story without telling the other on purpose. This is a shameless advertisement for DecorMyEyes with the same advertising technique he is currently using. Before you extrapolate all the illegal actions here and then proceed with sentencing, I ask whether you are proving the "Bad Publicity is a Good Thing" philosophy?

For me, I'm ok with giving the guy more publicity
 
wizdum said:
Why does stuff like this always happen to people that can't defend themselves? Just once I want to see an article that ends with something like "While trespassing and making threats, Mr Russo was promptly shot by Ms. Rodriguez. Funeral services will be held next Tuesday at Noon. Guests are expected to bring their own napalm."
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It's NY, not TX or OK or the like, as a rule you face expensive criminal then civil court battles when you defend yourself with a weapon of any kind in NY. You have a better chance of going to prison for defending yourself in NY than the bastard that tried to rape/murder whatever you does had you not defended himself.

This guy is a piece of work. He is a smart thug and nothing more. Hope he spends some quality time in one of NY's fine criminal detainment facilities.
 
GORANKAR said:
It's NY, not TX or OK or the like, as a rule you face expensive criminal then civil court battles when you defend yourself with a weapon of any kind in NY. You have a better chance of going to prison for defending yourself in NY than the bastard that tried to rape/murder whatever you does had you not defended himself.

This guy is a piece of work. He is a smart thug and nothing more. Hope he spends some quality time in one of NY's fine criminal detainment facilities.
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I can attest to that... i work in a max prison in NY.. and its easy to verify claims of criminals by simply looking up their cases online... there are a lot of people in prison who were defending someone... and an extremely liberal government is good jury... convicted them...on basically faulty arguements by the prosecution that shouldnt have even made it past a grand jury...
 
metalsmart said:
"Soon after, she discovered that DecorMyEyes had charged her $487 — or an extra $125."

I'm going with a "she said/he said" situation. If there was an extra charge, she should easily be able to dispute through proof and get a quick response. It sounds AWFUL that she got charged more, but what if the glasses were on sale and she got charged the full price, not the sale price. This happens often at B&Ms. At what point does it become illegal? Has he crossed that?

"........Someone posing as Ms. Rodriguez, she says, had called the bank and said she had changed her mind and no longer wanted a refund."
When asked for the recording of her conversation, they were unable to produce anything and would also would not work with her to get it resolved. Claiming that DecorMyEyes was the perpetrator is assuming too much.

The article gives one half of the story without telling the other on purpose. This is a shameless advertisement for DecorMyEyes with the same advertising technique he is currently using. Before you extrapolate all the illegal actions here and then proceed with sentencing, I ask whether you are proving the "Bad Publicity is a Good Thing" philosophy?

For me, I'm ok with giving the guy more publicity
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Sounds like you have a bad case of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_phenomenon
 
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