Witcher 2 to have a DRM-Free version... but there's a catch

They are cutting boobs if anything at all not maturity of storyline and choices.

No boobs, I've never really got why the United States censors are so concerned by nudity.

Of course extreme graphical violence is fine and acceptable!
 
There will be boobs and more of them I hope.

Always find it amusing when people used to order the european vesion solely because of the odd censorship rules. The first game allowed drug use, drinking, gambling, fist fighting, killing people, including decapitation yet no harmless nudity.
 
I think this sounds cool, but i'll be buying it on steam anyway.

also, OP is a fool
 
Good for CD Projekt. I hope this game captures and excels on all the amazing things that made TW1 one of the best games I've ever played.

It's pretty cool to see them using GoG to distribute this but I think I may have to go with Steam for ease of use. I like that they're standing their ground and not hurting those of us who will pay for the game but also taking the added measure in punishing the pirates.

To whoever commented on this "hurting innocent customers" that's the furthest thing from the truth in this case. If the game is available DRM-free from GoG there should be no reason one would even want to "legally" torrent the game. If you have poor connection go buy it retail as I'm sure it will be there.

GOG is a helluva a lot easier to use than Steam. Remember GOG is CDProjekt.
 
There really is no reason to go with steam instead of gog unless you just like the aesthetics of seeing all your games listed in your steam library. That and integrated friend system stuff. GOG is the way to go, especially as it supports the devs better.
 
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I honestly have no idea how anyone could come up with this as a legitimate response to the original poster/post.

Because the OP implies that he pirates games by telling us its a bad news that the developers will sue people who pirate games.

How else are we supposed to take that response?
 
8.What content do I get once I've purchased the game when it comes out?
You'll receive one of five classic RPGs to choose from: Gothic 2 Gold, Realms of Arkania 1 + 2, Realms of Arkania 3, Divine Divinity, and Beyond Divinity, the manual (unsurprisingly), a 200 pages digital artbook, the full in-game soundtrack, papercraft figures, guide, maps, letters, trailers, developer diaries, gameplay footage, interviews and "making of" exclusive video.

Yes, the GoG version is a sweet deal. Gothic 2 = awesome. Arkania series = classic. Divine Divinity = much fun.

The only thing I worry about is censored or watered down content for us pussy americans.
 
Because the OP implies that he pirates games by telling us its a bad news that the developers will sue people who pirate games.

How else are we supposed to take that response?

I can only suggest that you go back to my original post and carefully look for the word "innocents". You may need to read more than two sentences to get there - a problem which appears to afflict many in this thread.
 
No boobs, I've never really got why the United States censors are so concerned by nudity.

Of course extreme graphical violence is fine and acceptable!

The overly religious mentality of the country. Killing people is fine, but nudity is a sin.
 
I can only suggest that you go back to my original post and carefully look for the word "innocents". You may need to read more than two sentences to get there - a problem which appears to afflict many in this thread.

What innocents? You either download the game and get fined or you don't. There is no grey area.
 
Except that has nothing to do with suing pirates, that is one organisation. Nothing suggests that there will be a repeat of that.
 
GOG is a helluva a lot easier to use than Steam. Remember GOG is CDProjekt.

I'm aware GOG is CD Projekt but my point with "ease of use" was not necessarily that but "ease of access". I like having everything all in one place, if I can find it one steam I usually purchase it on steam. Poor choice of wording on my part.
 
And I wonder what they plan on doing to the other countless individuals that illegaly obtain the game through a identity free medium...ie Usenet.


or private trackers, or private FTP servers. its a scare tactic thats it. they will go after all the little kiddies using public torrent index's like isohunt, demonoid and TPB. which has been going on for years.
 
or private trackers, or private FTP servers. its a scare tactic thats it. they will go after all the little kiddies using public torrent index's like isohunt, demonoid and TPB. which has been going on for years.

I'm sure the larger private ones aren't safe either
 
I was getting ready to buy The Witcher 2 direct from GoG when I heard they were going to sell it without DRM, but this tactic caused me to reconsider, thinking carefully if I want to buy. If you're going to pay an underhanded slimeball of a corporation to basically spy on people and attempt to entrap users (There is a long history of these "protection" services uploading bad data, adding the name of the content their employer owns to OTHER files in order to drum up more "confirmed" hits, and a lot more...) then I really don't want to give you my money.

They could have caught WAY more flies with honey than vinegar. This tactic will not stop piracy and will only spawn ill will in the community, which is contrary to what releasing DRM free aims to do. If they had released DRM free and posted a "Hey, we know some of you are going to pirate anyway, but we worked hard on this title and provided it DRM free. If you are able and enjoy the game, please consider buying it, or donating here" note on the website and in game, then the community - even the average pirate community - will go out of their way to buy or donate (see: Humble Indie Bundle and Organic Indie). No, this will not stop every single person who is going to pirate, but it will create the best possible environment to entice buyers.

The original game was great and I'd pre-order the second without another thought if they retracted the "IP Witch Hunters" they're employing!

Edit: Does anyone know if the native language of the game's vocal work is going to be Polish again? The EU version of the Witcher Enhanced Edition/Director'sCut had an impressive selection of voice work, English, Spanish, German, Polish, Russian and more... Did the US version include these languages as well? It seems strange that the GoG version, which comes direct from the Polish devs, seems to have English/French/German localization, but no Polish option. I like to play games with the vocals being the native language as the developers intended (with English subs, more often than not), so I wonder what is going to be available. If they decided to make English their "Prime" language for voiceover work, that's fine too, but I'm a bit surprised. Lets also hope that if there is a need for an Enhanced Edition or Director's Cut again, they'll be available as free patches once again!
 
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If you guys are worried about censoring, the gamer that goes dot com usually sells euro versions of games that are uncensored.
 
I would have pre-ordered the game on Steam if:

A) It had no or non-intrusive DRM.
2) It had been guaranteed to be the full Adult version, not censored like the US release last time.

These concerns = no sale.
 
I would have pre-ordered the game on Steam if:

A) It had no or non-intrusive DRM.
2) It had been guaranteed to be the full Adult version, not censored like the US release last time.

These concerns = no sale.

If its on Steam it automatically has DRM. Steam is DRM. If you want zero DRM, get the GOG version.

As for concern 2. No idea. Just have to wait and see what they do. Still even if its censored a little so what? The stuff they cut out literally added nothing to the game. No, I'm not the least bit interested in seeing naked fake woman.
 
I would have pre-ordered the game on Steam if:

A) It had no or non-intrusive DRM.
2) It had been guaranteed to be the full Adult version, not censored like the US release last time.

These concerns = no sale.


censor in us version of witcher 1 removed nudity and what else?
do you serious care about pixel nudity......
 
So basically its everyone who still uses torrents to download is fucked.

Usenet ftw
 
You are wrong.

Worse, you are making me repeat myself. Please try to keep up with the thread.

Looks like a bunch of conspiracy junk to me. Were these people actually taken for money or was the matter settled in court?.

"One would hope that they would be more diligent in ensuring that they have targeted the right people. Unfortunately, their history does little to inspire such hopes. Apparently the RIAA does not mind being thought of as a laughingstock".

The one about suing the person that didn't even own a computer made me laugh. That would get thrown out in court in a heartbeat.

Also you could counter sue for slander.
 
Thanks for illustrating my point. If they have to sue people, instead of being able to send letters extorting them for money, then all the ridiculous cases like these will get thrown out and they'll have to be more careful and accurate about how they choose possible pirates. And then there'll be less and less false positives.

But if they can just spam thousands of people and they aren't countersued for extortion(who will sue them? the person that will just cough up $1k instead of defending themselves? not likely) then isn't that a problem?

I think it's fine if they sue everyone they can that they think pirated the game. Even if 99% are innocent. Because then they have to spend money to follow through with it and the person on the other end gets some sort of defense through a lawyer. But by sending these letters they incur virtually no cost and the person on the other end only has themselves and a few random friends/family to rely on for expert legal advice.
 
censor in us version of witcher 1 removed nudity and what else?
do you serious care about pixel nudity......

I would rather not play any game that is censored in any way. Pixel nudity...if I wanted to look at boobs I'd just fire up images.google.com. I could also just feel up my fiance pretty much whenever the hell I want.
 
I was getting ready to buy The Witcher 2 direct from GoG when I heard they were going to sell it without DRM, but this tactic caused me to reconsider, thinking carefully if I want to buy. If you're going to pay an underhanded slimeball of a corporation to basically spy on people and attempt to entrap users (There is a long history of these "protection" services uploading bad data, adding the name of the content their employer owns to OTHER files in order to drum up more "confirmed" hits, and a lot more...) then I really don't want to give you my money.

Are you fucking serious? You can't be this dense. They aren't spying on you, they are only watching the IPs that download PUBLIC torrents.

You're probably just a pirate trying to find someway to publicly say so.:rolleyes:
 
The only things censored in the US version of The Witcher 1 was the female portrait cards and the dryad body skin. No language (text or spoken) was edited for sexual content, though they did shorten non-Polish versions of dialogue (possibly to reduce voice-acting costs).

These censored items were subsequently restored in The Director's Cut patch, which is available to anyone who purchased the game. I don't think I've ever heard a good explanation as to why they did the censoring in the first place, and I suspect it was a case of miscommunication about what was allowed.
 
The catch is, there is no catch. Already pre-ordered. Unless there's some mothership-dialing trojan bulljive in this game when it arrives, I'm not worrying. Even if it had a little censorship, the Witcher games overall are still plenty adult. Besides, they'll probably release a director's cut patch down the road anyway if people play nice.
 
Of much greater concern to me is the apparent lack of a walk feature - again.

When are developers going to learn. This is supposed to be an RPG, meaning that many gamers are going to want to immerse themselves in the atmosphere of the world - difficult to do when you can't walk down the street like a normal person, or if you have to run through a house when you're indoors.

It's things like the lack of a walk feature, or zero customization, that are going to turn me off - or paying for an unfinished game, as I did on day one with the original game.
 
Of much greater concern to me is the apparent lack of a walk feature - again.

When are developers going to learn. This is supposed to be an RPG, meaning that many gamers are going to want to immerse themselves in the atmosphere of the world - difficult to do when you can't walk down the street like a normal person, or if you have to run through a house when you're indoors.

It's things like the lack of a walk feature, or zero customization, that are going to turn me off - or paying for an unfinished game, as I did on day one with the original game.

I can't take this seriously. The lack of a walk feature, a design CHOICE, constitutes an unfinished game? Maybe in a parallel universe. It looks like you REALLY enjoy mosey-ing around in all the RPGs you play, taking in the virtual sun and enjoying the scenery for extra long playthroughs. But I think that's a minority demographic, the Witcher was a unique game and was mostly liked as far as I could see. I never finished it because I found the combat rhythm stuff to be tedious.
 
I'll take the "downside" of DRM free while they track the torrents, rather than a release full of DRM while the torrents don't get tracked.

Anyone want the later?
 
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it's not that hard to go to a friends house with your system, or take a USB drive to get the neccessary files.

nothing says they have to be on YOUR computer.

you can validate your copy and download the files from any computer.

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If you have friends who will bring their computer to your house, then use your internet to pirate games so that they can avoid these types of lawsuits, maybe, just maybe, you should find some better friends ;).
 
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