Hazro HZ30Wi, HZ27Wa & HZ27Wb

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Starting a new thread as there seems to be bits of info scattered across various threads. Here to answer any questions regarding the Hazro HZ30Wi, HZ30WiQ, HZ27Wa and HZ27Wb models.
 
Glossy or matte? I recall Hazro offering also glossy screens. Not that I'd be interested in a glossy screen, but some people may be :)
And do you still offer smaller displays? Your webpage actually shows only HZ30Wi :-/
 
Glossy or matte? I recall Hazro offering also glossy screens. Not that I'd be interested in a glossy screen, but some people may be :)
And do you still offer smaller displays? Your webpage actually shows only HZ30Wi :-/

The HZ27Wa [LED] features a glossy panel whereas the HZ27Wb [CCFL] ft. a matte panel. The choice is there - both have advantages/disadvantages. The HZ30Wi [and all 30" WQXGA panels] are matte.

We do have smaller displays in the form of 2 x 24" and a hardware calibrated 23" which TFTCentral reviewed. However, none have been released for consumer purchase in the UK. We may launch one of the 24" which is a IPS 8bit panel ft. HDMI + DVI + VGA. Its a basic no frills IPS monitor [16:10] with scaling and a fully adjustable stand. The price, if launched, will be around £255. More on this next month.

For now, we're mainly focusing on the Hazro HZ30Wi and the 27inch models.
 
I've been very happy with my "old" Hazro HZ30W (bought at end of 2008). I like the way you guys do things - one DVI input (I don't need more), and no pointless OSD gubbins, leading to some of the best input lag numbers in any monitor size/type.

Your prices were the best I'd seen for a 30 inch monitor in the UK. I wouldn't have bought such a large monitor if it wasn't for the low price - I had considered 30 inch monitors too expensive and was looking at 24 inch models until I saw the HZ30W.

The only substantial improvement I'd personally like to see is an A-TW polarizer, but since pretty much nobody puts them in their monitors any more I can't blame you for being the same. They make the most sense in a 30 inch monitor since it's easy to sit close enough to them for the famous IPS "white glow" to creep in at the corners of the huge screen.
 
Many have suggested that the low price of our new 30inch HZ30Wi is due to it being a no frills and 'basic' monitor [reference to no OSD etc.]. This is not the case: OSD settings are in many ways no different to computer based calibration utilities e.g. ATi Control Panel etc. The 5 brightness settings we have on the new HZ30Wi actually dim the backlight [lowest value halves the power consumption]. This gives much better control than brightness/contrast/saturation 'sliders' which rely on panel blocking.

The A-TW polarizer is not a characteristic of the panel itself: its a thin film which is applied post manufacture by OEMs or requested during production. Whilst not costing much, they are difficult and expensive to apply on small batches. There are many kinds of polarizers: some give the effect of reduced brightness: others are clear with opacity reduced in corners [common a few years ago when IPS panels were notoriously bad for 'bleed' in corners]. We don't apply polarizers but its definitely something to consider
 
I like the way you guys do things - one DVI input (I don't need more)

I agree - We have a single Dual Link DVI connector and can't see the point in having other inputs. DVI and HDMI share the exact same pin configuration [minus the audio] so its not a big job for us to add HDMI to our boards [we could solder a HDMI connector to the board in a few mins] or you could buy those inexpensive dvi>hdmi converters. However, without a scaler and HDMI devices 'typically' outputting full HD content, we didn't see the point of multiple outputs and still don't. Interpolating HD>WQXGA would look horrible for someone serious about video. Some customers use external scalers to 'force' mapping but thats a niche market. We do have a 30inch which accepts twin DVI feeds from different sources and maps them perfectly but because it features a scaler in the form of a FPGA board, the cost is closer to £1500 [ouch] - sold mainly to customers in the medical market.
 
About the 27" LCDs (esp. HZ27Wa), i can't find any info on them. Specs, price, pictures, availability, etc...Do you sell&ship outside of UK?

I really liked the specs and design of the 24" LCD that was available a couple of years ago. Too bad it was discontinued.
 
Thx, i got all my answers from that page. Well, all except for price. :D Though i think it will be outside my budget. Too bad the 24" version is still in air.
 
About the 27" LCDs (esp. HZ27Wa), i can't find any info on them. Specs, price, pictures, availability, etc...Do you sell&ship outside of UK?

I really liked the specs and design of the 24" LCD that was available a couple of years ago. Too bad it was discontinued.


Hazro monitors have been sold at Overlockers.co.uk before, and they ship to many other European countries.
The glossy 27-incher (HZ27Wa) must be standard gamut, I'm certain that it shares the panel with Apple's Cinema Display.
 
Details, images, price and specs on the HZ27Wa and HZ27Wb will be available closer to the launch date. I'm not at liberty to say which panels are used but can say that we use the exact same panel as found in the ONE and ONLY WQHD LED backlight monitor [same goes for the CCFL: there is only ONE WQHD CCFL monitor available for consumer purchase]. :)
 
Have any US distributors for your monitors? I've looked at your offerings before but getting them in the US seems to be rather impossible.
 
Have any US distributors for your monitors? I've looked at your offerings before but getting them in the US seems to be rather impossible.
Unfortunately, we don't have any resellers in North America but can ship at heavily discounted rates to the USA. See our shop page for details.
 
Hi hazro,

Looks like you guys are rolling out some nice IPS displays! It's great to see more companies offering a CHOICE between both matte and glossy! Just out of curiosity, does the HZ27Wa have a scaler or does it only accept an input of 2560x1440?
 
Just out of curiosity, does the HZ27Wa have a scaler or does it only accept an input of 2560x1440?

Hi. none of the 27s or 30inch monitors feature a scaler so it'll only accept the native resolution
 
Hello Mr. Hazro, :)

You have a track record of abysmal customer support (check out the user forums of OcUK, your only UK distributor), and when your products have failed within their warranty period you have a well-documented history of ignoring both webnotes and emails (apparently the only method of contacting you). You have no indication of a physical trading address on your website, no VAT number, no telephone number, and Hazro is not even listed in the Companies House database.

What can you say to reassure potential buyers that they should now risk doing business with you?
 
Hi,
Please excuse my ignorance re monitor scaling, but if the monitor has no scaling, does this mean a 1080p movie will display with black bands all around it?

Yes and no. Without a scaler, a monitor can still accept multiple resolutions but is unable to 'map' that image [1:1 pixel mapping]. If a 30inch monitor had a scaler, a 1080 movie would be displayed in a box that would be 1920 x 1080 pixels and positioned centrally in the screen. If no scaler were present, the movie would either have to be watched in a application window [e.g. Quicktime or VLC etc.] or would have to be blown to fit the screen [in which case you'd get the borders] . Some games actually allow for resolutions as high as 2560x1600 but movies are max full HD.
 
Hello Mr. Hazro, :)

What can you say to reassure potential buyers that they should now risk doing business with you?

The company [and brand] were taken over twice in the space of 14months with the financial crisis hitting the company hard. A total of 144 monitors [mainly 24s and some 26s] had issues. Since the summer, new management and extra resources have been pumped into the company so things are definitely stable. In terms of products, everything has changed: new suppliers, new parts, new monitors. All Hazro monitors are now built and assembled in the UK which gives us entire control over the quality process. Consumer sales account for a very small % but we're offering the same support as those with dedicated SLA agreements. Coming back, we accept it won't be easy and we'll no doubt take a good battering before things pick up. But we'll let the new and improved product range and new support system do the talking.
 
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We may launch one of the 24" which is a IPS 8bit panel ft. HDMI + DVI + VGA. Its a basic no frills IPS monitor [16:10] with scaling and a fully adjustable stand. The price, if launched, will be around £255.
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This is AWESOME! This is the monitor ive been waiting for :) What worries me is the "may launch" I hope the "may" is there by mistake :p
 
I hope the "may" is there by mistake :p

We say 'may' because of issues we're having with the build. AC power supplies are proving a nightmare to fit which means we may have to modify the rear case [which takes time]. We may opt for DC power supplies but they cost 200% more. That and a few software updates are holding us back.
 
Why not make the power supply external?

I think that it is fair to assume that hazro's previous comment about "DC power supplies" refers precisely to the external supply that you suggest. His reasoning for avoiding those is that they cost 200% more.
 
Why not make the power supply external? This way the body of the LCD could be slimmer, especially for a LED display (btw, will the 24" lcd have LED backlight?). Any chance the chassis will look as good as the former HZ26W? (http://images.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/6302-IMG0668s.jpg)

Hi - these 24s will have plastic enclosures ft. a glossy bezel. Looks rather nice. We make our enclosures multi-use so we can use different panels i.e. a 24" 10bit and 8bit panel [U2410 and LP2475w] can share the same housing. We do have LED housings but they are either too small [23.6"] or too big [16:10 LED panel does not have uniform borders: bottom bezel is taller - see Apple 24" LED].

AL is expensive: plastic is cheap and this monitor is all about offering high quality at the cheapest possible price.
 
Hi - these 24s will have plastic enclosures ft. a glossy bezel. Looks rather nice. We make our enclosures multi-use so we can use different panels i.e. a 24" 10bit and 8bit panel [U2410 and LP2475w] can share the same housing. We do have LED housings but they are either too small [23.6"] or too big [16:10 LED panel does not have uniform borders: bottom bezel is taller - see Apple 24" LED].

AL is expensive: plastic is cheap and this monitor is all about offering high quality at the cheapest possible price.


OK I see that for that price I cant get aluminium body but pleeeeeease dont make it with glossy bezel but with matt bezel :( I had LCD with both finishings and I hate that glossy one. It catches dust, reflections, fingertips...it just dont have any advantage to matt finishing.
 
OK I see that for that price I cant get aluminium body but pleeeeeease dont make it with glossy bezel but with matt bezel :( I had LCD with both finishings and I hate that glossy one. It catches dust, reflections, fingertips...it just dont have any advantage to matt finishing.


That's really your own opinion.
The market is full of matte displays, there are almost no glossy computer displays anymore. Some TN ones, but on the high end front I only know of Apple's new Cinema Display and some Japanese model which isn't available outside Japan or perhaps Asia.
 
That's really your own opinion.
The market is full of matte displays, there are almost no glossy computer displays anymore. Some TN ones, but on the high end front I only know of Apple's new Cinema Display and some Japanese model which isn't available outside Japan or perhaps Asia.

Wait, maybe my english betrayed me, but i thought that BEZEL (that is supposed to be glossy and thats what I mentioned before) is the thing AROUND the display not the display itself? I dont have a problem with glossy display - its a glossy frame that I hate and that Hazro rep. mentioned above. Or am I wrong?
 
My poor explanation: by bezel, I wasn't referring to the panel: its the trim that fits 'around' the panel which will be glossy. I will try to dig out a picture tomorrow and post it. The rear cover will be matte. An all matte finish is actually cheaper but the men upstairs make these decisions
 
Hazro,

Are you planning any kind of presence in North America in the near future? I live in Canada.

I have tried emailing your company a few times, but never got an answer. I would love to order one of your glossy 24" monitors, but lack of communication has scared me off ordering anything.
 
Are you planning any kind of presence in North America in the near future? I live in Canada.

We're back as a new company [after a long on/off absence] and are currently focusing on the UK market - we do have attractive pricing on exports [no tax and reduced shipping]. However, we don't support any monitors put on the market by the 'previous' Hazro and are solely focusing on the 30inch and 27inch displays for now.
 
Hazro,

Is the monitor good for 3d gaming?
Does it meet the 120hz specs needed?
 
Hazro,

Is the monitor good for 3d gaming?
Does it meet the 120hz specs needed?

If your referring to the HZ30Wi, I wouldn't recommend it if its to be used predominantly for gaming as its aimed more at 'working professionals'. There are cheaper and more 'appropriate' alternatives for fast motion/3D games
 
We don't have any 3D or 120Hz displays and can't advise on specific models from other vendors - but I'm sure they are cheaper than purchasing a Hazro 30inch monitor. My suggestion would be to trawl these forums as many users have posted feedback on such displays.
 
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