AMD 6850 and 6870 released, October 18

Stay on topic please. If you want to discuss Nvidia video cards there is a forum for it.

Back to the topic. Custom cooler Sapphire 6850:
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I told my friend to wait to buy his gpu (he was going to buy a 5830 last week). What should I tell him at this point? I think he should get the 5850 if it drops or the 6850 if it doesn't, but I'm not so sure.
 
Here's my theory on why the groups are odd but they still are grouped by 4

None of the cards are the full thing

320 x 4 = 1280 (6890???)
280 x 4 = 1120 (6870)
240 x 4 = 960 (6850)

I'm willing to bet they are leaving breathing room to fill in gaps if they have to with the full version of the card

I'm no expert in video cards or all the jargon I keep reading from you guys, but that would seem like a likely scenario for me if they wanted to spread and fill holes including having a response to anything Nvidia would come out with like a 465 or something alike.

And I wouldn't be surprised that they'd do the same thing with Cayman.
 
I told my friend to wait to buy his gpu (he was going to buy a 5830 last week). What should I tell him at this point? I think he should get the 5850 if it drops or the 6850 if it doesn't, but I'm not so sure.

6850 is likely going to be the card to buy.
 
6850 is likely going to be the card to buy.

Or if he can be patient, tell him to save the money he gets within the next month or two...seeing as the next 2 months are going to be filled with new cards and reviews. I was planning on going to 6870 crossfire from my 4850 crossfire - a decent upgrade, but coming the next 2 months things are going to get hectic!
 
Here's my theory on why the groups are odd but they still are grouped by 4

None of the cards are the full thing

320 x 4 = 1280 (6890???)
280 x 4 = 1120 (6870)
240 x 4 = 960 (6850)

I'm willing to bet they are leaving breathing room to fill in gaps if they have to with the full version of the card

I'm no expert in video cards or all the jargon I keep reading from you guys, but that would seem like a likely scenario for me if they wanted to spread and fill holes including having a response to anything Nvidia would come out with like a 465 or something alike.

And I wouldn't be surprised that they'd do the same thing with Cayman.

Problem with those numbers is that 1120 is not divisible by 64, if that's what they're being arranged by (5 groups of 64x4).

I dont think AMD has too much to worry about 40nm either since Nvidia hasn't even been able to do a full chip on 40nm, whereas AMD already has. They'd only be hurting their own numbers
 
It's the 18th. Hell it's almost the 19th. I miss anything?

The NDA for performance tests expires on Friday the 22nd so if you're not interested in specs there won't be much for you to look at.
The Asia-Pacific event is currently underway as you read this. Here is the schedule for today:
Tuesday, Oct 19th
9:00 - 12:00 Room 201
AMD Executive Presentations
12:00 – 12:45 Room 101
Press Lunch
12:45 - 2:15 Eric Demers, CTO, Graphics Division
Northern Islands Architecture Deep Dive

It is 10:57AM in Taipei, Taiwan time so that presentation is yet to happen. Once it is over give it a few hours for information leaks to trickle out. But don't expect to see any official reviews with performance tests from reputable sites before the 22nd (that doesn't mean other sites hungry for clicks won't jump the gun).
 
How about just telling him (and others, i'm sure he's not alone) what he missed instead of asking him to read through 420 replies?
 
How about just telling him (and others, i'm sure he's not alone) what he missed instead of asking him to read through 420 replies?
because there will always be people that have not read the thread or kept up. why should we have to explain what is going on to every one of those people? if they were really interested then they would already know exactly what is going on since every site has been talking about the 22nd for over a week now.
 
good to see that tech sites have the cards and are reviewing them.

Now for someone to release an architecture diagram. I'm really curios as to how AMD has redesigned the tessellation hardware. Did they split it up into multiple pieces on the front-end, or did they follow Nvidia by breaking it up into much smaller pieces and tie them into the shader clusters. I'm also wandering if they've fixed the Achilles heel of the current design, which is being set-up limited.
 
because there will always be people that have not read the thread or kept up. why should we have to explain what is going on to every one of those people? if they were really interested then they would already know exactly what is going on since every site has been talking about the 22nd for over a week now.

You don't HAVE to do anything. Clearly, the concept that some people may have a genuine interest in this, but don't have the time to keep up with the lastest news has escaped you. The 18th, 19th and 22nd are dates that have been and still are being thrown around, so it's hardly as cut and dry as one might like.

If you don't want to repeat the information then don't, but replying to make it a point that you're not going to repeat the information takes more keystrokes than simply answering the question. So it actually took you more effort to be useless than it would have to help someone out.
 
If you don't want to repeat the information then don't, but replying to make it a point that you're not going to repeat the information takes more keystrokes than simply answering the question. So it actually took you more effort to be useless than it would have to help someone out.

funny how that works huh....:confused:
 
The NDA for performance tests expires on Friday the 22nd so if you're not interested in specs there won't be much for you to look at.
The Asia-Pacific event is currently underway as you read this. Here is the schedule for today:


It is 10:57AM in Taipei, Taiwan time so that presentation is yet to happen. Once it is over give it a few hours for information leaks to trickle out. But don't expect to see any official reviews with performance tests from reputable sites before the 22nd (that doesn't mean other sites hungry for clicks won't jump the gun).

Thanks for the update. I'll grab some popcorn then and wait for the fireworks. I love watching a new gen launch.

To all the rest of the jerkwads, bite me. The internet is practically a landmine with random dates on this launch. That's exactly why I came here asking about it, because there were multiple sites still saying the 18th/19th.
 
You don't HAVE to do anything. Clearly, the concept that some people may have a genuine interest in this, but don't have the time to keep up with the lastest news has escaped you. The 18th, 19th and 22nd are dates that have been and still are being thrown around, so it's hardly as cut and dry as one might like.

If you don't want to repeat the information then don't, but replying to make it a point that you're not going to repeat the information takes more keystrokes than simply answering the question. So it actually took you more effort to be useless than it would have to help someone out.
the POINT was doing that for every uninformed person that pops in a thread is silly. if you CARE then read the thread and get the info like the rest of us did. not to mention that I DID tell him the date right here on this page...
 
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so obviously 6850 outperform GTX 460..

Now all I need to know is price before I decide to buy a 6870 just for fun....
 
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