Firewall computer ? Untangle/pfsense/others

With a lead time of 8-10 weeks and a base price of $300, I'll pass.

I know eh, but i guess these guys are trying to make it ?

I looked a while ago, looking for something or a product to install untangle on for a home network of a few users, but nothing i could find would be powerful enough.

Small would be nice, ideas ?
 
Choose a distro first. Untangle is very heavy and I think it'll be tough to be satisfied under $300, from what I've heard (I don't have a lot of experience with it).

What are your bandwidth and feature requirements?

pfSense runs great on ALIX.
 
I wonder what this will bring for us guys that build their own firewalls

http://www.fit-pc.com/web/fit-pc2/fit-pc2i-specifications/

I bought one of those for work. It's a nice little machine, but not powerful enough for Untangle. I run Windows XP on it and it runs pretty good once you locate all the correct drivers. FitPC doesn't make it easy.

The video driver is very slow in Linux. As a firewall it would be fine, but for Ubuntu or anything else with a GUI, it's a dog.
 
I linked that site about a year ago over at Untangles forums....I like that ultra small form factor, thought it would be good for Untangle for small offices/branch offices. I have one client with a WAN of 5 satellite offices...some of those branch offices are in very small rooms at some courthouses and police stations, just a single PC or two. These little FitPCs would be ideal, and I may still do it if next years budget allows it. Currently I have the WAN running on Linksys/Cisco RV042 models for the branch offices (RV016 at central).

The dual core Atoms run Untangle well for this type of lower traffic setup (especially since I wouldn't run all modules on a branch office) , and they have a couple of models with full Pentiums.
 
I linked that site about a year ago over at Untangles forums....I like that ultra small form factor, thought it would be good for Untangle for small offices/branch offices. I have one client with a WAN of 5 satellite offices...some of those branch offices are in very small rooms at some courthouses and police stations, just a single PC or two. These little FitPCs would be ideal, and I may still do it if next years budget allows it. Currently I have the WAN running on Linksys/Cisco RV042 models for the branch offices (RV016 at central).

The dual core Atoms run Untangle well for this type of lower traffic setup (especially since I wouldn't run all modules on a branch office) , and they have a couple of models with full Pentiums.


I like untangle because of the virues spyware & vpn. I looked at pcsence, but couldent tell if it did virus & spyware too. Those are key features for me.

As for a smaller unit to run untangle, haven't found one of those yet either, with dual nic cards and decent speed to run a few computers through.
 
Looks interesting. I bet it would run Astaro Home much better than Untangle . . .

I got astaro running on a computer here at home, i find it harder to use for sure, I love how in untangle you just configure the vpn, then launch the download then install and your ready.

J'
 
I got astaro running on a computer here at home, i find it harder to use for sure, I love how in untangle you just configure the vpn, then launch the download then install and your ready.

J'

I find the Astaro SSL VPN setup to be equally easy. Also, the ability to use the Cisco VPN Client is nice for IPSec. The reason it is harder to use is that it has a crap ton more features. :D
 
I find the Astaro SSL VPN setup to be equally easy. Also, the ability to use the Cisco VPN Client is nice for IPSec. The reason it is harder to use is that it has a crap ton more features. :D

I need to learn WAY more about vpn, i didn't find astaro that hard to use, just how to find things and do things, if there was a manual on line for doing certain things i would be fine. However the only manual i found is 2 pages and it shows how to get it installed and (KINDOF) setup.

Here is screen,

astaro-dashboard.jpg
 
I like untangle because of the virues spyware & vpn. I looked at pcsence, but couldent tell if it did virus & spyware too. Those are key features for me..

They recently added a ClamAV add-on for PFSense (which is the same AV engine Untangle uses on the freebie base version). So it's an option for PFSense. But PFSense isn't designed to be a UTM, it's a freaking dragster of a fast router with top notch qos features, and great IPSec VPN, PPTP VPN, and OpenVPN.
 
I need to learn WAY more about vpn, i didn't find astaro that hard to use, just how to find things and do things, if there was a manual on line for doing certain things i would be fine. However the only manual i found is 2 pages and it shows how to get it installed and (KINDOF) setup.

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Try click on the help button in the upper right-hand corner. That's where the manual is. You will find it very expansive and detailed. :D
 
They recently added a ClamAV add-on for PFSense (which is the same AV engine Untangle uses on the freebie base version). So it's an option for PFSense. But PFSense isn't designed to be a UTM, it's a freaking dragster of a fast router with top notch qos features, and great IPSec VPN, PPTP VPN, and OpenVPN.

I thought about buying a firebox on ebay, good idea ? I like having a antivirus at the gateway into my house. very good idea, plus the firebox looks sexy LOL!


Try click on the help button in the upper right-hand corner. That's where the manual is. You will find it very expansive and detailed. :D

Will try this then :)
 
I thought about buying a firebox on ebay, good idea ? I like having a antivirus at the gateway into my house. very good idea, plus the firebox looks sexy LOL!)

Some people are having good luck with those and installing various distros on them...I've not tried one. I'm pleased with the Supermicro dual core Atom setup I did for home.
 
I'm concerned the firebox's aren't powerful enough for untangle, is this worry unfounded?
 
I have found untangle to be heavier on the load, it struggled a bit on an old dell p3, maybe it was just a shit box lol.
 
You need at least a P4 for Untangle, an old P3 will not cut it.

Tried that, it didn't as much struggle to run, but struggled to send and recieve and monitor traffic.

On a cor2duo with 3 gigs of ram and 2 intel gbit nic cards its FAST! and nice!

Playing with astaro right now.

Who's got a manual for this software, grrr!!!
 
Tried that, it didn't as much struggle to run, but struggled to send and recieve and monitor traffic.!!

Was probably the NICs you were using on that, I have quite a few Untangle installs on larger small biz networks (30, 40, 50, 70 users) that run on early single core Pentium 4's..I'm talking before the Hyperthreads even...2.4 or 2.6GHz, and just 1 gig of RAM. 10 and 20 meg internet pipes..they keep up with it just fine, rock solid.
 
Did you try clicking on the help button?
You mean the correct one right ? LOL! the help button is so small.

Was probably the NICs you were using on that, I have quite a few Untangle installs on larger small biz networks (30, 40, 50, 70 users) that run on early single core Pentium 4's..I'm talking before the Hyperthreads even...2.4 or 2.6GHz, and just 1 gig of RAM. 10 and 20 meg internet pipes..they keep up with it just fine, rock solid.

I had it on a P4 2.0 1.5 gigs ram dlink pci card ( pos card ) , and the on-board nic-card. The cheap Ethernet cards was probably the issue, the machine got warm, and lots of cpu load when downloading. It is one of those SMALL form factor dell machines.
 
Choose a distro first. Untangle is very heavy and I think it'll be tough to be satisfied under $300, from what I've heard (I don't have a lot of experience with it).

What are your bandwidth and feature requirements?

pfSense runs great on ALIX.

I wouldn't say it runs great on an ALIX, I'd say it works.
 
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