NKDietrich
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When I bought my TV and Blue Ray player this past Winter at Best Buy .....
The sales guy that helped me tried to sell me an HDMI cable Made by Monster Cable and was going on and on about how much better it was than all the others, etc.. etc ...
I looked him dead in the eye and told him straight out that "you guys are ripping people off. Selling those cables to people that don't know any better is a sham. That 60 dollar Monster cable is no different than the one I bought at Monoprice.com for less than 9 bucks shipped. " He was pretty speechless after that lol.
So does this mean that HDMI 1.2, 1.3a, 1.4 doesn't mean anything or am I misunderstanding something?
So does this mean that HDMI 1.2, 1.3a, 1.4 doesn't mean anything or am I misunderstanding something?
I know people are trying to make a point, but you would never be able to run an HDMI signal over a wire coat hanger, to much crosstalk and interference.
Try running GB ethernet over 200 feet of cat 3 and it likely will not work. But 200 feet of cat 5 probably will, and 330 feet of cat 6 would be no problem.
The main point, epecially with digital signals, is that as long as the cable meets the specs, it will work. A cheap $10 cable from monoprice is a good as a $100 cable from BestBuy if they both meet the spec.
Only difference might be in the quality of the conectors, but unless you plan on plugging & unplugging the cable several times a week, it shouldn't make much difference.
Now there's going to be a a slew of new HDMI cables coming out. Have a 3d TV? Great, you need to buy a HDMI 1.4 cable because your other cables wont work.
Lets hope a real consumer friendly connector comes out and gets widespread adoption.
It's amazing how much people buy into this marketing. Talking to some people I know who work at Best Buy I found that they whole heartedly and almost rabidly defend these cables and the so called differences. Poor uninformed consumers need to read up before they actually buy anything.
So what is the new a/v cable coming out to succeed HDMI & Displayport?
Some variety of standard CAT5E/CAT6 cable, right?
So I got rid of the twisted pair setup and split the 8 wires into 2 seperate 4 wire runs. This allowed me to run 2 network jacks off one CAT5 wire. Since this is a 2 story house, the wires are probably close to 50 foot runs each.
When I went online before hand to ask if this was ok, everyone said no, it broke spec and it wouldn't work. I tried it anyways. 6 years later and I still max out Fast Ethernet (100Mbps) connections in my house. That was the only downside was that I gave up compatibility with 1000Mbps Gigabit by doing that method of splitting the wires..
In June 2005, the HDMI organization announced the HDMI 1.3 spec. Among other things, the 1.3 spec offers new color depths which require more bits per pixel. The HDMI press release states:
"HDMI 1.3 increases its single-link bandwidth from 165MHz (4.95 gigabits per second) to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbps) to support the demands of future high definition display devices, such as higher resolutions, Deep Color and high frame rates."
So, what did they do to enable the HDMI cable to convey this massive increase in bitrate? If your guess is "nothing whatsoever," you're right. The HDMI cable is still the same four shielded 100-ohm twisted pairs, still subject to the same technical and manufacturing limitations. And don't draw any consolation from those modest "bandwidth" requirements, stated in Megahertz; those numbers are the frequencies of the clock pulses, which run at 1/10 the rate of the data pairs, and why the HDMI people chose to call those the "bandwidth" requirements of the cable is anyone's guess. The only good news here is that the bitrates quoted are the summed bitrates of the three color channels -- so a twisted pair's potential bandwidth requirement has gone up "only" to 3.4 Gbps rather than 10.2.
At the present time, no video card or monitor implements greater than 1920x1080 at 60Hz through HDMI, so the capability of the cable beyond 1.2 is totally irrelevant to PC users.
about as useful as this thing it doesnt even connect to anything, just put it near your stereo and it will sound better!
http://www.lessloss.com/blackbody-p-200.html
Whoever is foolish enough to buy a 3D TV deserves to be ripped off.
Just more crap for the stupid to purchase and defend. But hey, bigger is better right...
Uh, higher resolution HDMI monitors do exist. I have a 1920x1200 monitor sitting next to me right now that's using an HDMI connection.
You mean like Pirahna 3D?