Please post here if your motheboard died with a Phenom II X6

I never suggested it wouldn't occur on motherboards with mosfet heatsinks. My post clearly shows an example of a sinkless solution that was able to handle loads most consumer boards couldn't. I would just like people to keep in mind that there are more factors than the numbers of phases alone. The quality of the mosfets determines how much heat they can take before catastrophic failure and the cooling solution (if any) saves mosfets from undue heat stress.
 
MassiveOverkill,

Damn! Now I'm worried. I just picked up same setup: 1055T + 890GXM-G65. I've never OC'ed before and I was hoping this would be a good setup to learn on (even though the cpu multiplier is locked).
 
At the very least have a fan blowing directly on the MOSFET heatsink. Be prepared to RMA. It's not like the board gives you warnings that something bad is going to happen.

I see two motherboards that have 8 pin auxilliary power (that are mATX). One is an ECS and the other is a Gigabyte. The ECS doesn't have SATA 3 or USB 3. Gigabyte looks promising but the PCI-E slots are right next to each other, so it limits you on Crossfire (not to mention the second going to X4 when both are being used).
 
I will be putting this in an Antec Fusion HTPC case, which has two 120mm fans going for extra circulation. Hmm, i wonder if there is a way to mount a heatsink to the mosfets
 
hmm, i would recommend running it out of the case first to make sure :) I dont think that the HTPC case will allow for enough airflow to keep the mosfets cool(assuming your Over clocking)
 
hashish said:
I will be putting this in an Antec Fusion HTPC case, which has two 120mm fans going for extra circulation. Hmm, i wonder if there is a way to mount a heatsink to the mosfets
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They already have them on there (the heat pipe connecting the NB to them).
 
I don't have the board yet, so I haven't had a chance to look, but after seeing the board I noticed the heat sink.

I'll wait till I get mine for any speculation at this point. But if it is the MOSFETS frying, maybe its insufficient thermal coupling there-between?
 
hashish said:
I don't have the board yet, so I haven't had a chance to look, but after seeing the board I noticed the heat sink.

I'll wait till I get mine for any speculation at this point. But if it is the MOSFETS frying, maybe its insufficient thermal coupling there-between?
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that could be part of the problem, but a big part is the 4+1 power phase, which simply is not enough to handle an X6 when overclocked(this is what almost everyone thinks the issue is atleast)
 
You guys probably know better than I do. It sounds about right, trying to pull 125W while trying to keep that signal clean is probably taxing for the MOSFETS. This board was probably meant for OC'ing X4 processors while supporting the X6's.

Kind of sucks because I was looking forward to OC a 1055t.
 
Hey guise, sticking a couple heatsinks on your MOSFETs should do the trick (at least that's MSI's solution).
 
kuripot said:
Should I worry about oc'ing a 550 x4 on this board?
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no, the power should be sufficient to power an overclocked x4, the issue arises when you try overclocking the x6's on these boards

@lucky777 , i hope that works, but i still think the mosfets are overloading because they cannot sustain the power needed to power an overclocked x6
 
Thanks for the confirmation W.Feather, I did not want to break my board in my feeble oc attempts;) Hopefully MSI is able to help everyone that already has this issue. Is this something that can be fixed in a BIOS revision?
 
Man I'm glad that I have chosen to go with an ASUS Board.

I'm thinking of doing this setup. Should I be safe? :confused:

ASUS M4N98TD EVO AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard

AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor Model HDT55TFBGRBOX

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ

CORSAIR Cooling Hydro Series CWCH50-1 120mm High Performance CPU Cooler

___________________________________________________________________________________________________________

(I have all of this bought.)

OCZ OCZ700GXSSLI-B game xtreme ATX 12v v2.2 / eps 12v 700w nvidia sli certified ul fcc power supply

2 Nvidia 880GT (512mb) in SLI

1 Asus DVD\CD optical

1 WD 750gig Caviar Black.

All of this will be in my New Antec 300 with at least 3 120mm fans and 140mm fan on the top.
 
790 clocks great for me..890 blew.

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Meh... I just called MSI directly because I snagged a 790X-G45 and a 1055T and was wanting to know if they had any report of that board's MOSFETs frying. Tech support dude claimed he hasn't heard of any board frying at all...

I'mma just sell my x6 and keep the x4 I already have without even messing with it.
 
MassiveOverkill said:
I'm starting to think the power requirements of the AMD 6 core is overloading the 4 phase power circuitry on these mATX boards. I'm seeing alot more reports of MSI deaths with a couple of Gigabyte thrown in. I have yet to see an Asus death.
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why would you buy a high end expensive cpu and throw it on a half assed board? never ceases to amaze me how people expect the same performance from lower end hardware.
 
Rogue71 said:
why would you buy a high end expensive cpu and throw it on a half assed board? never ceases to amaze me how people expect the same performance from lower end hardware.
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How about the motherboard was free with the processor. You obviously are obvlivious to the word "Fry's". Congratulations to being the first to flame a constructive thread with useless bullshit. Since you're such an expert on hardware, maybe you can enlighten us all with your expertise on how anyone is supposed to know that this motherboard was crap, with very little reviews on it using a Phenom II Thuban?

I don't expect sudden death from a board advertised as using Military-Class components, especially when the cooling on the MOSFET heatsinks is drectly pimped as being "Extreme Cooling, with an average temperature of LOWER than 52C in high loading." yeah that's written right on the back of the fucking box as well as on the website.

It never ceases to amaze me the number of dickheads that have nothing better to do than troll.
 
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Here's more trolling ignorance:

http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1035834539&postcount=31

"the whole problem with sff cases is heat and space.we're not even close to dreaming of a highend cpu at under 45w tdp..............so unless designers start making sff cases with layouts that actually make sense, i would say anything using an sff case, let alone itx is pretty much a useless venture if you plan on playing higher end games.
i just used a silverstone sg02-f case for a secondary htpc. i gotta say its useless and i will never buy another one again. i couldnt even use a 65w amd x2 5200 in there without the psu gettin hotter than hell. so i had to go out and buy a crappy little sempron 140. the tdp and hsf clearance is much lower so its not fighting the psu fan so much. nice looking little case but what a pisspoor design imo."

Please stay away from SFF as you are in the dark ages as to the CURRENT offerings and capabilities of a SFF system.

I guess 4.0 Ghz i7 processors, Gulftowns, 5970, SLI GTX 470's/480's, 12 gigs of RAM, 1000 watt power supplies are all low-end hardware to you, incapable of playing high-end games.......because that's excactly what people have been able to put into today's SFF cases............I'm not talking huge-ass NZXT Rogue cases or Antec Mini-P180's either.
 
Wow this is the best, i.e. latest tech, board at a mATX ff on the market for AM3 processors. I was watching this board for a while and up until this week, it had pretty positive reviews.

I get mine this weekend, so I'll be able to check out the heat sink. Does it seat properly on the MOSFETS?
 
Hmm I wonder if an aftermarket HS with a better thermal compound will make a difference, what do you guys think?

Or even a separate HS for the NB and the MOSFETS since they are sharing a heat pipe.
 
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I suggest the Biostar 890GXE for anybody looking for a solid mATX mobo.

I bought one to replace my burnt out MSI and it's been doing great.
 
It makes good contact. My RMA should be here Wednesday. I'm going to put it through the gauntlet again, this time with a fan blowing directly on the MOSFETS heatsink. I'll let you all know if I notice any changes in revision or design improvements.
 
How long did MSI take to ship out a new board after they received it?

Oh and how difficult was it to remove the heatsink?
 
hashish said:
Hmm I wonder if an aftermarket HS with a better thermal compound will make a difference, what do you guys think?

Or even a separate HS for the NB and the MOSFETS since they are sharing a heat pipe.
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I would think so.

MassiveOverkill said:
It makes good contact. My RMA should be here Wednesday. I'm going to put it through the gauntlet again, this time with a fan blowing directly on the MOSFETS heatsink. I'll let you all know if I notice any changes in revision or design improvements.
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Did you talk to any MSI techs about this issue? I'd be interested to hear what they had to say.
 
kuripot said:
Did you talk to any MSI techs about this issue? I'd be interested to hear what they had to say.
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I don't know if I have the patience right now to go through the banter of canned responses until it gets escalated to a higher Tier.
 
you can always tell the first rep you talk to that you want to talk to a manager, and if they dont transfer you, you will never recommend a product from them again....that may get their attention :)
 
I prefer having to two PCIe slots at 16x1 or 8x2. But looking at the Biostar board, it does have much more substantial and separate heat sinks on the NB and PWM.

I believe the best MOD to make this board OC'able with X6 processors is separate the two HS's. Honestly you may be able to cut the heat pipe connecting the two, bend it up and mount at least one fan on it.
 
That would be a mod I'd like to see. I"ve seen bent pipes, but never hacked heat pipes!

The Biostar board looks good, but what I like about the MSI are the 7 USB ports and the ability to CF. One thing that I don't understand on the MSI is why it only has 2 fan headers. Sure its a matx board, but it seems to cater to gamers who are likely to have 2 gpus, so substantial cooling would be a must. I think I've seen at least one matx board by Asus that had 3 headers, and only 1 gpu slot.
 
I noticed that too about the fan headers. I actually mentioned that in my previous post, but then firefox crashed and I lost the post :)
 
MassiveOverkill said:
I don't know if I have the patience right now to go through the banter of canned responses until it gets escalated to a higher Tier.
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I hear ya, at least they RMA'd without any problems.

hashish said:
I noticed that too about the fan headers. I actually mentioned that in my previous post, but then firefox crashed and I lost the post :)
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Another thing that hopefully will get fixed is Speedfan support for this board. But it looks like we're digressing;)
 
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