Steve Jobs Will Fix This Foxconn Suicide Nonsense

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Have no fear, Steve Jobs is here! There will be no more suicides at Foxconn from this point forward! Fake Steve Jobs isn’t buying it nor does he like the “national average” argument:

Also, consider this. Walmart has 1.4 million employees in the United States. Can you remember a time when 10 or 15 Walmart workers jumped to their deaths from the roofs of Walmart stores over the course of a few months? Have you ever heard of Walmart asking employees to sign a no-suicide contract, or putting safety nets up on all of its buildings? If this did happen, would you think maybe something is going on at Walmart? Or would you just say, well, 10 or 15 people out of 1.4 million is still waaaay below the national average?"
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I have a theory.

What is the workers that killed themselves really were caught leaking Apple tech to the outside, Apple found out and put pressure on Foxconn to plug the leak. Foxconn then kills said employees and make it look like suicide.

hey, it could happen
 
I'm not really clear on why all the Foxconn nonsense is focused on Apple or Jobs. Foxconn makes 360s, PS3s and many other products. Why are people not leaning on Gates or Sony?

Just curious.
 
-= Steve Jobs email to Foxconn =-

"Change your suicide rates. Not that big of a deal"

-Steve
Sent from my iPhone
 
k1pp3r said:
I have a theory.

What is the workers that killed themselves really were caught leaking Apple tech to the outside, Apple found out and put pressure on Foxconn to plug the leak. Foxconn then kills said employees and make it look like suicide.

hey, it could happen
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That's absurd.
Far easier to use government strings to have them arrested for something that puts them away. The suicides draw attention. Much easier and more profitable to have them simply go away.
 
Our saviour Jobs shall raise from the dead these workers
 
Committing suicide at the Foxconn facility is having as much world attention as that one man standing in front of that tank in Tiananmen Square so long ago.

It's what's necessary to make other people, especially those outside of China, aware of what's going on.

The focus on Apple is primarily because of at least 1 of the suicides being directly related to the loss/theft of an iPhone prototype last year (at least that's how we're told it went down). Once that attachment was made in the minds of people around the world, it suddenly became the albatross around Apple's neck...

Not even the RDF can save 'em from this.
 
I just want to see someone force Jobs to work in a Foxconn factory with the same hours as the average. Have him do this for a month and turtleneck Skeletor won't need to jump off a roof to end up dead.
 
Mize said:
That's absurd.
Far easier to use government strings to have them arrested for something that puts them away. The suicides draw attention. Much easier and more profitable to have them simply go away.
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Apple is absurd, whats your point? I'm was being a little sarcastic with that post
 
The suicides are a cover up for the human sacrifices made to honor the Dark Lord aka. Steve Jobs...
 
Every time you by an iPhone, a Foxconn worker goes to heaven.

Don't let the kitty's go to hell.
 
@Parmenides: That's not the way I heard it. The real saying is:

Every time you buy a Droid phone, Steve Jobs shoves a Chinese worker off a roof.
 
Can you remember a time when 10 or 15 Walmart workers jumped to their deaths from the roofs of Walmart stores over the course of a few months?
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Walmart workers do not live on-premises. Plenty of them kill themselves every year, but we don't hear about it because suicides tend to happen at home where they are more comfortable.
 
maybe its an honor suicide?

i had a foxconne mb in college about 5-6 years ago. it lasted about 3 months and i never got compensated for the warranty.

eek, hope all this media helps make it better for china as a whole.
 
jroe52 said:
maybe its an honor suicide?

i had a foxconne mb in college about 5-6 years ago. it lasted about 3 months and i never got compensated for the warranty.

eek, hope all this media helps make it better for china as a whole.
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Why not the Japanese had seppuku (slicing open your own belly with a knife) when they've done an act so shameful that to live on would be unbearable.

Yes, they should burn for inconveniencing you like that oh mighty PC user. J/K...

:D
 
I'd rather see him turn into Scuba Steve and plug the damn BP oil leak.
 
jroe52 said:
maybe its an honor suicide?

i had a foxconne mb in college about 5-6 years ago. it lasted about 3 months and i never got compensated for the warranty.

eek, hope all this media helps make it better for china as a whole.
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Fluke probably. Foxconn makes some pretty reliable shit. Chances are your current motherboard has a few foxconn parts on it.

Steve is now going to personally be in charge of whipping the employees until they quit.
 
The difference is that Wal-Mart is smart enough to lock the doors to the roof access. Furthermore, most Wal-Mart building are only 25ft in height. There's a chance of survival if you jump off it. :)
 
Mize said:
I'm not really clear on why all the Foxconn nonsense is focused on Apple or Jobs. Foxconn makes 360s, PS3s and many other products. Why are people not leaning on Gates or Sony?

Just curious.
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IIRC they do Wii stuff too. And tons of other laptops. This is just websites wanting to put Apple in the story to get page hits to serve ads. It is somewhat pathetic really.
 
I'm in Taiwan, talking to my suppliers. According to one VP, the head of Foxconn just visited the factory and there were nets set up all over to prevent any jumpers. A day or two after he left the last jumper found a gap in coverage and fell through.

Without the ability to jump to death, the workers are rumored to be turning to wrist slitting, either solo or with the assistance of a friend. Like was mentioned on [H] earlier, the Chinese believe that the death payments were a significant factor in the amount of suicides.

I've been told that the death payments are on hold and that as of June 1, the base pay is up 30%. There were 5000 people in line for a job on June 1.
 
so what is the rough pay of the foxconn employee the suicide is an option?

hell if its low enough i'm sure there are some chinese cuties there and we all could use a small servant staff...and we would be doing our part! its a win all around.
 
So, we don't hear about Wal-Mart suicides because Wal-Mart employees don't live at Wal-Mart facilities, making suicides among Wal-Mart employees something that doesn't get directly linked to Wal-Mart.

On the other hand, Foxconn has a facility where the vast majority of employees live on-site. So because they live and work in the same buildings, if they are going to commit suicide, they will tend to commit suicide there as well, fomenting the link.

Although it *DOES* seem like recently the suicide rate there has been a touch high, no matter what anyone says about "averages".
 
Walmart has 1.4 million employees in the United States. Can you remember a time when 10 or 15 Walmart workers jumped to their deaths from the roofs of Walmart stores over the course of a few months? Have you ever heard of Walmart asking employees to sign a no-suicide contract, or putting safety nets up on all of its buildings? If
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No, they just lock everybody in the store overnight and time the bathroom breaks.

Maybe people jumping off the roof of Walmart is what it would take to shine a light on how corporate America/World views their "human resources" (ie; cattle)

:(
 
Jobs is thinner and more efficient than ever, sporting minimal wind resistance (not unlike the Toyota Prius). This is going to be crucial in his efforts to eliminate suicides at Foxconn.
 
Foxconn has about 486,000 workers, so this would be an equivalent of 45 Wal-Mart employees jumping off roofs. The suicide rate in the US is 11.1 per 100,000, which would work out to 155 Wal-Mart suicides.

The reason we don't hear about Wal-Mart suicides is that Wal-Mart doesn't pay a death benefit equivalent to 10 years' salary to their famiies. Assuming an average salary of $9/hour, such a benefit would be $180,000.

So: How many Wal-Mart employees would suddenly commit suicide if they knew that doing so would give their families $180,000? This is what we're seeing here with Foxconn.
 
One would think an insurance policy would pay considerably more than $180,000... or am I just watching too many episodes of "Law & Order" where such things happen (and are taken from stories in the real world, I might add...).

I wonder...
 
Bahamut said:
One would think an insurance policy would pay considerably more than $180,000... or am I just watching too many episodes of "Law & Order" where such things happen (and are taken from stories in the real world, I might add...).

I wonder...
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getting and maintaining an insurance policy is probably the last thing on your mind if you are making $18,000 a year. People are all on people getting government handouts, yet they don't seem to mind that a large amount of Wal-Mart workers are on welfare/medicaid. Unless you are talking about the life insurance Wal-Mart is known to put on some employees without their knowledge. Not for the worker's behalf, but the company's mind you. Not just Wal-Mart either, a lot of companies do similar.
 
Ryokurin said:
getting and maintaining an insurance policy is probably the last thing on your mind if you are making $18,000 a year. People are all on people getting government handouts, yet they don't seem to mind that a large amount of Wal-Mart workers are on welfare/medicaid. Unless you are talking about the life insurance Wal-Mart is known to put on some employees without their knowledge. Not for the worker's behalf, but the company's mind you. Not just Wal-Mart either, a lot of companies do similar.
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Congratulations on watching a Michael Moore flick I guess, but iirc policies were not taken out on minimum wage employees. Maybe I am remembering it wrong though.
 
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