24'' Apple Cinema LED Display alternatives?

brumwald said:
The reflection is only one issue. The overall degradation in image quality sure isn't negligible... (why bother with IPS in the first place?)
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What in the world are you talking about? If anything, matte screens are the ones with degradation in image quality. Do you have grainy plastic filters over the windows in your house? Does it make the outside look better?
 
Frameless said:
What in the world are you talking about? If anything, matte screens are the ones with degradation in image quality. Do you have grainy plastic filters over the windows in your house? Does it make the outside look better?
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Do you use mirrors as windows, does it make the outside better? :p
Well, if the inside of your home is prettier than the outside - yes it will. But honestly - I don't care which side is prettiest. If I look out my window I want to see the outside for what it is.

And it's the same with monitors. Glossy may look good and sports better blacks but you loose accuracy and eventhough it might look good that doesn't tell you much about the reality. The same goes with wide gamut and viewing sRGB material (and not compensating for it), some people prefer oversaturated colors but it's not accurate by a longshot and the image is clearly degraded. But it looks good?
 
brumwald said:
Glossy may look good and sports better blacks but you loose accuracy and eventhough it might look good that doesn't tell you much about the reality.
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Do you have a source showing that a glossy finish reduces accuracy?
 
Thought it was common knowledge. Not that it actually reduces the accuracy of the panel though but that the image is exaggregated and does not represent the image shown.

There was an article about it but I have no idea where I read it :(.
Yet glossy screens do come with deeper blacks so you'd think that it would be popular among professionals that have control over their work environment (to avoid reflexes) yet are there a single professional monitor that is not matte? (might be, haven't looked)
 
Frameless said:
What in the world are you talking about? If anything, matte screens are the ones with degradation in image quality. Do you have grainy plastic filters over the windows in your house? Does it make the outside look better?
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This analogy is so bad it's offensive...

Looking through a window you need a clear view at things that may be a dozen meters away or more - so diffusing the light that passes through the window would distort your image significantly. Also, it's likely to be a lot brighter outside the window than on the inside, so reflectivity is generally not a big problem.

On a monitor, an anti-glare filter would be very close to the display itself - so even if it diffuses the light it's not going to distort your picture much. It's like the difference between putting a piece of matte cellophane tape directly on a photo, versus holding it three inches above the surface...

I guess the glare thing is kind of a trade-off: a glossy finish will reflect like a mirror - some angles will be very bad while others will be a lot better. A matte finish produces more consistent results - any light shining onto the matte surface would be diffused, and thus be viewable from all angles as an ambient glow. So you either get deep blacks with the restriction that certain viewing angles just won't work (gloss), or else you get a bit of "glow" to your blacks in exchange for less risk of the viewability being completely negated by glare.
 
Biosphere said:
A fellow Danish flatpanels user just bought an
Atlona DVI to Mini DisplayPort Converter AT-DP200 for the Cinema display:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5n4PtpDaJE
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The official product page is here:

http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-DVI-to-Mini-DisplayPort-Converter-p-17859.html

While it will run the 24" ACD at 1920x1200, the official info states that users of iMac 27" will only be able to get picture with resolutions up to 1280x720 (720p). The converter costs about $150 in the US.
 
Yeah I know :)
The intriguing thing about this video, which you seem to miss, is that he is able to control backlight dimming from windows7 using Bootcamp Mac Drivers 3.0 for Windows which is otherwise impossible as the cinema display has no buttons.

So now you can just buy an ATI with displayport out and run it from there..

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evilsofa said:
There should in theory be no problem with the 5870 Eyefinity 6 card running the 24" Apple Cinema Display. But I have not been able to find any report that anyone has even tried to do so, and until someone does, there's no way to know and I would not assume anything.
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We now have a report that the 27" iMac works with a 5870 Eyefinity 6 card. It now seems very likely that it will also work with the 24" ACD.
 
Glossy produces the better and more accurate picture. People are just too stupid to realize it. Most artists use Apple products. Ever wonder why the Apple 24" Cinema displays are only available in glossy? Because Apple knows their market, and their market includes tons of artists. My wife, even though she actually hates Apple, is a professional artist who strongly prefers glossy screens for any kind of color accuracy work.

Silver speckles all over the screen SUCK!

As for the other poster who commented on the supposedly glossy NEC GX2, perhaps the reason it did not sell is because it was only available in a 20" size! Far too small...

I'm about to break down an buy a brand new Radeon video card with DisplayPort from Sapphire and a Apple 24" Cinema LED IPS Glossy monitor because I've seen it in person, and it is the most perfect, gorgeous monitor I've ever seen, and STILL after TWO YEARS has zero competition in the marketplace. It's insane. It would be the first Apple product purchase for my wife and I. Like I said, we hate Apple, but when it comes to displays, they seem to be the only ones who "get" it!
 
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