Video Game Visionary: The Console is Dying

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After listening to the industry drone on and on about the “death of PC gaming” it is nice to actually hear someone predict the death of consoles for a change. Whether or not this guy is right is a whole different story.

"In the near future, we'll have games that don't depend on any platform," Kojima said at a news conference announcing the latest installment in a game saga that began in 1987. "Gamers should be able to take the experience with them in their living rooms, on the go, when they travel -- wherever they are and whenever they want to play. It should be the same software and the same experience," he said.
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We used to have this form of entertainment back in the old days, it was called “your imagination” and everyone had one. :D
 
Hopefully they port the MGS to PC again like what they did to first one....

Looking forward to it.

and yes, consoles are dying, due to limitation and lack of advancing...
 
shansoft said:
and yes, consoles are dying, due to limitation and lack of advancing...
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Which is intersting because I remember what's his face at some game show talking about the Playstation platform and how they want to expect the lifespan of their systems.
 
consoles are holding PC's back, if they die, then PC's will be evolving at a faster pace once again.

but MS and sony will never let that happenm unless they create something like steam to run on the PC.
 
Sikkyu said:
consoles are holding PC's back, if they die, then PC's will be evolving at a faster pace once again.
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PC hardware might not, but the games might. I have to admit that it was nice to not have to change up my hardware for a long time though.
 
I would think that his comments are in reference to iPhone like devices which are becoming increasingly powerful.
 
Steve said:
After listening to the industry drone on and on about the “death of PC gaming” it is nice to actually hear someone predict the death of consoles for a change. Whether or not this guy is right is a whole different story.



We used to have this form of entertainment back in the old days, it was called “your imagination” and everyone had one. :D
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"Hey you kids! Get off my lawn!...young un's nowadays...."
 
Steve said:
We used to have this form of entertainment back in the old days, it was called “your imagination” and everyone had one. :D
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Damn, you're old. I don't recall a time before I could play Quake at least. Starcraft > pretending legos are RTS units.
 
"console is dying"
"handheld is dying"
"gaming companies are going bankrupt"
"pc gaming is dying"

however > gaming industry has grown and continues to grow... and its much larger than it was in our childhood when we thought everyone played it

so dictard needs to get his article published and attention.
 
Consoles as they were traditionally thought of have been dead for quite some time now. All they are now is a specialized PC in a shiny SFF box.

Here's where the future of consoles are going:

PC --------------------------------------------------------------------------->
Console --------------------------------/ ^^(same damn thing)^^
 
Steve said:
We used to have this form of entertainment back in the old days, it was called “your imagination” and everyone had one. :D
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No kidding. You certainly had to have an imagination when playing games on a console like the Atari 2600.
 
mcravenufo said:
No kidding. You certainly had to have an imagination when playing games on a console like the Atari 2600.
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I can't help but think this is why the old timers (myself included) think current games are too easy and are all about eye candy.
 
synapsis said:
I can't help but think this is why the old timers (myself included) think current games are too easy and are all about eye candy.
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just mention Contra to any other old timer, they will weep and hang their heads
 
99% of people that dont play with computers as a hobby do not like pc games. sole reason is because 'their computer screws up' and they dont know how to fix it.
 
and I in turn was referring to synapsis's comment about games being too easy

he really is right, there aren't many challenging games these days, Demon's Souls is definitely a game that will stomp someone's guts out
 
Neither console nor PC gaming is dying. They're slowly merging. Between streaming media through the consoles and hard drives, it doesn't take much imagination to fill the gap separating a PC and a console.
 
Fail said:
and I in turn was referring to synapsis's comment about games being too easy

he really is right, there aren't many challenging games these days, Demon's Souls is definitely a game that will stomp someone's guts out
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My mistake. :p
 
a market will only die when no one is willing to spend any money. if there is a need and money there is a market. look at the drug trade, it is illegal. we spend millions to stop it and yet because there is a demand and money the market refuses to go away.

as long as we keep buying things the market will be there. right now i think the game companies are the stupid ones that dont understand this. they make more and more game each year and wonder why their sales are not that great.

they flood the market with cheap shit so we only buy stuff that is good. i only play like 10 games a year. if there is 2 companies or 2000 i still will play 10 games a year. if only 2 companies make games they will fight to fill every niche of the market to make money.

only way a market dies is when we stop spending and i dont see that any time soon or something better comes along. either way we control the market or we win because we get something better.


this is the same as the fools saying PC gaming is dieing because of a few console exclusives. yes the very tiny percent of console exclusives spell the end for PC gaming despite all the growing forms of games, mmo's and flash games are not available on the consoles. sure about 1/10 of 1% or less have been ported to consoles.
 
I think what he's referring to is having the silo'd game development. Consoles aren't dieing, but the dedicated platforms are.

In the future I would like to see a platform standard and then each company has their own. Like a dvd player. So Nintendo's would have a 'fun' design with minimal additional features. Microsofts would tie in well with windows. Sony's would be sleek/stylish with higher end home theater qualities.

That and I'd say in 10-15 years the internet will be fast enough for cloud gaming, so maybe all you need then is a controller (hopefully not just bare hands ) and your TV hooked up to the net.
 
Kojima's future is already here. It's called Linux + OpenGL + OpenCL + OpenAL / OpenSL.

Doesn't matter what hardware you have. Doesn't matter what interface you use. All your graphics code is portable. All your parallel processing code is portable. All your sound code is portable.

Unfortunately, commercial developers don't seem to realize that such a future is already here, today. Right now.
 
Maybe I'm viewing what he wants to be something else. I think he means you can get on your PC, iPad, 360, PS3, PSP, DS, iPhone, etc and play something like Halo 3 or Resistance with no problems, without having to buy different versions of the game. It'd only be 1 version that would work everything.

Essentially, all he wants is everything to share a single API and and similiar hardware. I don't see that happening in the near future or even the far future. Each company wants to come up with their own thing and try to conquer the market with it. That way they can steer the market to what they want.

Microsoft is pushing DirectX. Sony is pushing the Cell proc. Your handheld devices out there have wide varying hardware, OS's, OpenGL variants, etc. I just can't imagine his vision anytime soon, unless a single company decides to buy every single IT company in existance.
 
Steve said:
After listening to the industry drone on and on about the “death of PC gaming” it is nice to actually hear someone predict the death of consoles for a change. Whether or not this guy is right is a whole different story.



We used to have this form of entertainment back in the old days, it was called “your imagination” and everyone had one. :D
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Imaginations are how my brother and I reenacted "NWO vs NWA" on Nintendo 64, using mom's couch as an excellent wrestling mat. The armrest was an excellent replication of a turnbuckle for piledrivers and tombstones. We would play until we got tired of beating Powderkeg with a stop sign and baseball bat, then wrestle untill we got tired of flying turnbuckle elbows, and go back to the game. Best wrestling game ever.
 
and using Kevin Nash's slow kick where he roars and knocks the person down.
 
Ubisoft seem to be trying bloody hard to kill PC gaming with their constantly connected DRM BS.

Consoles are indeed basically PC's, the innards that aren't custom are borrowed from PC parts, mainly laptops.
 
I used to be a big PC gamer. Now, I don't play any PC games. Regardless of the situation, there is nothing better than sitting in front of a 65-inch plasma TV in a very comfortable recliner or on my comfortable couch and playing games on my XBOX 360. While playing PC games for hours, my eyes would get tired, my back and legs would hurt, and my arms would get very tired. I don't have any of these problems with my game console. I've played some games on my phone, but normally those are normally very basic games to kill time between appointments or errands. Every night, I sit down for an hour or two after the kids have gone to bed to play Modern Warfare, Halo3, or any of the hundred or so games that I have. No PC gaming experience can even come close to what I experience from my game console.
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...from a comment on the article page...

This guy is already dead....

:)
 
bubbakja said:
I think what he's referring to is having the silo'd game development. Consoles aren't dieing, but the dedicated platforms are.

In the future I would like to see a platform standard and then each company has their own. Like a dvd player. So Nintendo's would have a 'fun' design with minimal additional features. Microsofts would tie in well with windows. Sony's would be sleek/stylish with higher end home theater qualities.
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They had that, it was called the 3DO.
 
The main reason consoles are dying, is because PCs are getting cheaper.

There was computers long before there was game consoles, and there was games on them long before consoles as well. But back then PCs cost over $5k, so anyway who wanted to play pac man on a PC was retarded, or rich as hell.

Then came console systems that were cheap as hell, and came with controllers, which were more like miniature keyboards back then. Like intellivision, and colecovision. It took PCs until the year 2000+ to become affordable.

It literally got to the point where you could buy a $600 PS3, or a PC. Sure, PS3 is cheaper now, but for only a few hundred dollars more you could play games and print documents on your PC. Not to forget you can do everything from photoshop to to playing online poker.

With console gaming, it can get really frustrating. You have an Xbox 360 to play Halo 3, but you have a PS3 for Metal Gear 4. Then you have Wii for Metroid Prime 3. This gets very frustrating, and very expensive. All you wanna do is play the games, not buy every game console on earth. This isn't a problem with PC, so long as your system is at minimum requirements.

Even portable hand held consoles will get their ass handed to them. With a new contract from a cell phone company, you'll be the proud owner of something far more powerful then PSP or DS, for the same price. Oh yea, and it does more then play games.

The death of game consoles is based entirely on how rapidly PCs are dropping in prices.
 
Mad Cat said:
Yeah, but pretending to be Mechs comes pretty darn close to the game ;)
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oh MAN! i actually ran around preschool pretending to be a shadow hawk from mw1. man, i was introduced to violent video games at an early age.
 
As a PC gamer I say, screw consoles haha. I have always liked PC gaming over consoles since I was a kid and the amigas and commadores where cool. ^_^
 
Sounds like someones just bitter that he realized his payoff to keep MGS4 exclusive wasnt worth it.
 
jwalk6 said:
...from a comment on the article page...

This guy is already dead....

:)
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Pretty much. It's not like it's hard to hook a PC up to a TV and hook a controller up to the PC. Really though, who'd want to do that? Lower resolution and worse controls.

I like games that use my own skill. Too many things on console games are now automatic. Hug a wall? Stand next to the wall and it just does it. No longer is it a button. Aiming? Too hard on a controller, we'll add in aim assist. Duck and cover? Stand next to a barrier, and it'll automatically happen. I feel like I'm using cheats on console games or their PC ports.
 
This writer sounds like the new Head of IT guys we'd get in. They would come in "the big I AM" and rave about how the company was now in for a big kick up the arse and it would be open source everywhere and MS's day were numbered etc. etc. We'd just think "What a dick!"

They only ever lasted 6 months, if that.
 
shansoft said:
Hopefully they port the MGS to PC again like what they did to first one....

Looking forward to it.

and yes, consoles are dying, due to limitation and lack of advancing...
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no doubt. The millions of them sold and millions of software vs anything on PC surely indicates consoles are dying.

Unified platforms > PCs atm. Until devs put the effort into the PC counterparts and actually optimizing software to utilized the enormous power advantage PCs have over consoles, they wont be dying anytime soon.
 
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