New i7 Build(s), Please look over it for me.

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SteelmanUUs

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Hey guys,

This is my first post, my first post ever online about computers even lol. Always been about cars. I am in serious need of a new computer, I am currrently on a old Celeron D processor and it cant handle my current projects. All I use this computer for is video editing and rendering, don't do any gaming. I have never built a computer, but I don't have any doubt that I could do it as long as its not on a extreme level, I am very mechanically inclined due to taking car engines apart. Please comment, suggest a different part, or tell me this build would be too advanced for my first time around. Thanks guys

Intel i7 i920 (I am wanting to OC this thing)
Corsair Dominator-GT@2000 6GB
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2
Antec 1200 Case
Corsair Cooling H50
Corsair 750W PSU

I havent added the video card or harddrive because well, the video card to me is not important, a cheaper 75$ will do me just fine. As long as cheaper 500gb harddrive will do me just fine.

My other option on a computer is have this local computer store build one for me and this is it.

Intel i7 i950 (no OC)
6gb ddr3 ram
80$ coolmaster case
stock cooling
no idea on the p/s.
cheap 75$ video card, and 75$ for 2 dvd trays, 500gb harddrive

but he quoted me 1400$ for just the tower, but it would be complete.

Please let me know what to do guys, thanks!

-Shane
 
Looks pretty nice to me, stick with the i7 920 build though, unless your going to watercool in a full loop theres no need for a 950. I'm running the Corsair H50 with 2x 64cfm magma fans in push pull config exausting from the case @4.2ghz using Indigo Extreme thermal compound and i max @71c with 1.32vcore and LLC on.
 
You may want to see if the programs you use enable GPU acceleration of rendering or certain calculations; if they do, then it may be worth your while to get a faster GPU, since that will speed things up dramatically.

I would stick with the first build. An i7 950 isn't really a waste of money, but it's pretty close.
 
Well the only reason I would go with the i950 is because the computer store was going to build the whole thing for me. And of course they wont OC for customers.

As far as cooling, and parts combo for the i920 build everything looks to be O.K.? And no one thinks it will be too hard of a build for a beginner? With what I already listed for the i920, what else do I need to finish the build as far as having a complete build.
 
Mr. Pedantic said:
You may want to see if the programs you use enable GPU acceleration of rendering or certain calculations; if they do, then it may be worth your while to get a faster GPU, since that will speed things up dramatically.

I would stick with the first build. An i7 950 isn't really a waste of money, but it's pretty close.
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I'm not familiar with GPU acceleration, but I use Sony Vegas Pro 9.0.
 
SteelmanUUs said:
Well the only reason I would go with the i950 is because the computer store was going to build the whole thing for me. And of course they wont OC for customers.

As far as cooling, and parts combo for the i920 build everything looks to be O.K.? And no one thinks it will be too hard of a build for a beginner? With what I already listed for the i920, what else do I need to finish the build as far as having a complete build.
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honestly that is the reason i would not get the 950, because it would be built by a local store(labor cost is large :p)

anyhow

as for the 920 build, looks like it will be great, you just need a video card, harddrive(i would recommend a WD 500 GB Black edition), and your optical drives(i just got a LG Sata one and its pretty good)
 
W.Feather said:
honestly that is the reason i would not get the 950, because it would be built by a local store(labor cost is large :p)

anyhow

as for the 920 build, looks like it will be great, you just need a video card, harddrive(i would recommend a WD 500 GB Black edition), and your optical drives(i just got a LG Sata one and its pretty good)
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With this combo, what kind of stable OC can I get out of this CPU? And can you possibly link me those items you talked about, either here or in a Private Message.

And can someone suggest me a video card? Keep in mind I don't do any gaming this is just a everyday use and video editing / rending computer. Its 720p HD video off of my Xbox 360.
 
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My sig rig is very similar to what you're proposing to build. 4GHz out of a 920 shouldn't be a problem. As for a video card, I'd get a 5770, powerful enough for what you're looking at doing a just enough power to do some real gaming or other things. For $200 its a good deal. You could also look at the new 5670s, but they are a little underpowered for anything I'd use as a desktop machine.
 
heatlesssun said:
My sig rig is very similar to what you're proposing to build. 4GHz out of a 920 shouldn't be a problem. As for a video card, I'd get a 5770, powerful enough for what you're looking at doing a just enough power to do some real gaming or other things. For $200 its a good deal. You could also look at the new 5670s, but they are a little underpowered for anything I'd use as a desktop machine.
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I sent you a PM.. Is my P/S a little bit on the low side since its only 750W and yours in 1000W and we have similar builds.

And on the video card, I didnt really want to spend that much on once since I do absolutely no gaming. Is there a cheap one that will do everything I want it to do as far as my 720p HD videos, and if I do any PC gaming I can add a better one later? Any links would be great!

and am I spending too much on RAM? Is there a less expensive RAM and mobo that will do the job for me?
 
the drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...2136320&cm_re=WD_500gb-_-22-136-320-_-Product

you can get cheaper, but something along those lines, i am personally a fan of WD

the optical drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

have this exact one, great drive so far

video card: either -
1) somthin like this- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127440
2) if you can spring the extra this is worth it: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161319

both of those cards are still budget cards, the 2nd one being the better card by far....if you can find an extra 75 to throw into it, a 5770 or 5750(by ATI) is the best bang for buck at that price area.


as for OC, i dont own those parts, band have only seen what others got, i would speculate atleast 3.5 or 3.6 GHz (seen alot get up to 4 though), sorry i cant be much more help on the OCing part :p

edit: 750 is plenty.....the 1000w in the other guys sig is probably b/c he is running three graphics cards
 
Instead of the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, I would get the ASUS P6TD Deluxe which offers some extra features to increase stability of the system when overclocked, like more PCB layers which includes 1 layer of copper, that the V2 doesn't have. I have the V2 and it works fine overclocked mind you I don't overclock more than 3.6ghz. For the 920, make sure you get a D0 revision, as it overclocks more than C0/C1.

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-xtreme-design-p6td-deluxe-core-i7-motherboard-1449251/
 
jmorel33 said:
Instead of the ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, I would get the ASUS P6TD Deluxe which offers some extra features to increase stability of the system when overclocked, like more PCB layers which includes 1 layer of copper, that the V2 doesn't have. I have the V2 and it works fine overclocked mind you I don't overclock more than 3.6ghz. For the 920, make sure you get a D0 revision, as it overclocks more than C0/C1.

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-xtreme-design-p6td-deluxe-core-i7-motherboard-1449251/
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Thanks alot! That really helps out a bunch with that being the same price and a better product!
 
SteelmanUUs said:
Am I spending to much $$$ on the RAM? Or is my RAM choice a good one for OCing? Or can I go with something cheaper with almost the same result. Same question for the mobo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145255
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I think you are spending too much for your ram. You could get a very good set that gives *ALMOST* same performance as that one, but in G.Skill for much less...

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=237


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231306&cm_re=ripjaws-_-20-231-306-_-Product
 
I'm not sure about the specific hardware suited for the programs which you use. But since you're new to the DIY PC thing here are few things to keep in mind:

1) OCing can shorten the lifespan of your components.
2) OCing past a certain point sometimes brings diminishing returns of performance, while your power consumption will continue to soar.
3) There is a sweet spot for price-performance that most people stick to, beyond which is usually reserved for the true enthusiast.

My recommendation is that you buy into this price-performance bracket. Keep all your components speeds and voltages at stock, but still use a high-end cooler. So when you do need the extra performance you can always OC it.

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 2.66hz
CPU cooler: Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme rev c. + 120mm FAN!
MOBO: Asus P6T Deluxe V2
RAM: 3x2GB DDR3 1600mhz C9
PSU: Corsair TX750W
HDD: 500GB 7200rpm SATA II
GFX: ATI Radeon HD 5000 series.
CASE: ?
OS: ?
DVD: ?

A smaller case than the Antec 1200 would do just fine. Just make sure it has sufficient cooling. Noise is another issue you should take into consideration. A case with more vents bleeds noise. At minimum the case should have 1x 120mm fan intake and 1 x 120mm fan exhaust.

Any cash you save from switching to a smaller case can be spent on a higher end GFX card. Buying such a powerful system without a decent one seems like a waste, IMO. The new ATI 5000 series has really low power consumption for the high performance it offers. It also has Eyefinity, ie. a single card has 3 ports which allows you to output display to three monitors simultaneously. Many people claim that having multiple monitors improve productivity due to the extra desktop space.

So just keep this info in mind, from someone who is also relatively new :)
 
4 GHz is obtainable with those parts. Both of my 920's are undervolted a tad and stable at 3.6 GHz.

For the video card, the newest Adobe Premiere supports CUDA. Vegas and Avid currently don't support GPU rendering unless you wanna spend $1500 or so on a workstation card.

While you're looking at building a new computer, make sure to get at least 3 hard drives. You'll want a drive for the sourse file, output files, and a scratch disk. There's not point in getting a fast system just to always have it wait on the hard drives. :D
 
I think a P6T SE board would be a good choice. You can get them $150 OB at Newegg (that's what I did, works fine). I'm currently 3.8 GHz at somewhere near 1.31v without LLC on the stock cooler, although I don't have a case. I highly doubt your OC potential is reduced much, if at all, because of the fewer power phases (8 vs. 16).

Also, whatever you do, just avoid Crucial DDR3. Extremely poor overclocking. Corsair and other brands that use Elpida Hyper ICs are good.
 
I would highly recommend spending an extra $5 to get the 640gb, dual platter version of the WD Caviar Black. The extra speed and 140gb capacity are well worth the price.

Also, if you don't want to spend as much for RAM, I would suggest G.Skill DDR3 1600, as it's cheaper and known for its reliability.
 
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