Firefox 3.6 Now Available

limes said:
I wish the answer was "no". Most of the personas remind me of the worst from the 98/ME era.
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I'm confused. Are you implying that the worst things from the 9x/Me era were user-created
Desktop Themes? Cause I can think of a million things from those versions of Windows that are much worse than that.


Though that 'Peanuts' Desktop Theme from the 98 Plus! pack was pretty bad. :barf:
 
Ihaveworms said:
Firefox crashes on me many times a day starting from 3.5. I wish opera would play nice with my school's web based thing. I would switch in an instant.
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Same here:confused:. On my laptop running Win7 64.

Desktops in sig seem to be OK.
 
3.6 seems to working just fine for me, same as 3.5. No crashes, no slowness, no memory issues. I recently came back to FF after trying Chrome with extensions for about two months. Firefox, IMO, is just better right now. If Google gets the extensions and extension system polished a bit and dramatically improve my ability to customize the UI to my preference, then I may switch to Chrome in the future.

On a different note, I wonder what all of the "ZOMG Chrome is better because it doesn't have 99346373475 extensions" people have to say now that Chrome has, in fact, had extensions for a while now? I mean, aside from the fact that you don't have to use ANY extensions on EITHER browser...we'll just act like that little gem of info doesn't exist. :p
 
Just got home and installed it. Seems to have cleared up the annoying slow startup issue I was having with FF ever since I upgraded to 7. Sometimes (like tonight before I upgraded) I would get the new gray out "app has hung" effect before it would unstick itself. The only extensions it didn't like are IE Tab and the two that NIS installs. Good thing I looked at the add-ons though. It seems that every time you upgrade Java, it leaves the FF extensions for the previous version intact and running so you have to manually tell FF to uninstall them. I had about four old versions of the Java extension all running at the same time.
 
PhatalOne said:
Well at least two of us must be crazy, because that was the first thing I noticed too!
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Sabrewulf165 said:
Is it just my imagination or did upgrading from 3.5x screw up my scroll speed?
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I quickly skipped over the thread and saw no fix for this. I WTF'd as well so went about fixing it. Type in about:config in your address bar and in the filter bar type "mousewheel.withnokey". You should get three options, change "mousewheel.withnokey.sysnumlines" to false by double clicking the line. What this does is allow Firefox to have control of scrolling instead of letting it use Windows' scrolling. Now change "mousewheel.withnokey.numlines", mine was set to 6 so I halved it and restarted Firefox and bam its back to what I had it at before.
 
IE ftw since version 6... don't go to random unknown sites, keep your AV software updated, and don't open "YOU WON $500,000!!!" emails. I love IE8 myself... loads instantly, and is much smoother in the UI department than FireFox, as well as loading everything flawlessly (compatibility mode fixes the one or two that don't). No sites that just don't work like with FireFox, no random bugs the devs are too pompous and pigheaded to admit might be caused by them, and it's closed source :D.
 
GoldenTiger said:
IE ftw since version 6... don't go to random unknown sites, keep your AV software updated, and don't open "YOU WON $500,000!!!" emails. I love IE8 myself... loads instantly, and is much smoother in the UI department than FireFox, as well as loading everything flawlessly (compatibility mode fixes the one or two that don't). No sites that just don't work like with FireFox, no random bugs the devs are too pompous and pigheaded to admit might be caused by them, and it's closed source :D.
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Quoting to add: I haven't used anything but IE since version 4, but it had plenty of quirks back then... still has been the best thing going though. New IE versions consistently test as extremely secure, too. I use my computer to use it, not play around trying to make it run, even though I'm a very advanced "user" (build, program, render/3d modeling, games, encoding, networking, pretty much everything anyone outside of a financial company running double-precision calculations would do :p).
 
P.S. By "haven't used" I mean regularly, not that I haven't ever even installed/tried the other browsers.
 
Stimpy88 said:
It seems quite nice. But I still think the way IE8 displays your favourites is far more advanced than a slow scrolling list that does not remember your last position! And why the hell can't Firefox 3.6 score 100% on the Acid 3 test yet? How long has that test been out now???
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Does IE8 remember the order of your favourites upon re-install or alphabetize them like it used to? I don't know the answer, but would like to.
 
I started using Chrome a few weeks ago once my plugins were ported over; can't switch back now. :)
...and people still use IE? :p IE8 is the best one yet by far but (to quote Stewie) it's still a "polished turd" IMHO. :D
 
3.6 isn't compatible with gmail manager and snapshotpimp. Until they are, I ain't updating. My 3.5 doesn't crash much on OSX. :D
 
was going to ask if it's worth updating to, but from most of these posts it looks like I'm going to wait a bit, at least 'till everything's ironed out between users and the programmers.

is chrome really worth using? same with newer IE8? I moved to FF a several years back for the increased security, mostly because a lot of on-line game sites/forums are targeted by account hackers. I remember my first pc got destroyed by early IE's lack of timely security updates and options, by the time I junked it even surfing was more like trying to dog-paddle from the mainland to hawaii, lol.

while speed is nice, I'd just rather stick to the browser that's going to offer more security options. glad to say I haven't picked up one virus/trojan/worm/whatever since I made the switch, the one time I almost did a FF plug-in warned me before my other programs could get to it (was using avast, spybot, malwarebytes and superantispyware for security at the time).
 
Sabrewulf165 said:
I know disagreeing with the man is a no-no around here, but I really don't see what's so great about Chrome. I've used it more than enough to have an opinion, and I usually have it installed as a secondary browser on most of my machines, but IMO there's very little to distinguish the two.

In spite of what all the sunspider benchmarks say, and many user testimonials, I have never seen Chrome post a definitive advantage over Firefox in my daily surfing. If anything, I like the way Firefox handles caching better than Chrome, which tends to reload things unnecessarily often. Though to be fair, Firefox is a bit lax about reloading, so pros and cons, really.
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Don't worry, you aren't the only one who is unimpressed by chrome.

Back OT.
Memory issue seems fixed which is nice.
Scrolling is back to normal, I can actually use my hyper scoll on heavy video content pages again.
Lack of html5 is a little disappointing, but then I don't really visit any sites that use it yet anyhow.

Only annoyance I have found so far is Ad blocker and IE tab are disabled and not updated yet. Not a huge issue but a little irksome. I imagine those will be back up in a few day though so no worries. Overall I am quite pleased with this update, seems to have fixed a number of the annoying issues and added some new toys that I am sure I will get around to messing with.
 
mmm some nice little tweaks done in this version

I like how on the these section you can hover over a theme and it will liveskin the browser so you can see how it would look

Also middle-click to open a URL in a new tab no longer opens the new tab at the end but to the right of the present tab
 
Elledan said:
It'd be hard to imagine browsing the web without certain add-ons, especially NoScript and Adblock Plus :) Until Chrome has got them too, there's just no way I could ever make Chrome my main browser.
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Yep. Apparently we'll be using FF for a long time to come. According to the NoScript devs the API's needed to make NoScript fully functional aren't even in the latest Chrome beta builds as of January 11, 2010.

http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1676
http://hackademix.net/2009/12/10/why-chrome-has-no-noscript/

There's all the information you need about NoScript getting ported to Chrome. Apparently the so called ABP and Flashblock that Chrome does have are only shells of their FF counterpart because of the lack of these API's. Giorgio even has a page to show you how they can be bypassed easily. ;)

As for FF 3.6 I do believe they did indeed fix the Windows Explorer right click of death after a Private Browsing session.

I did manage to screw up my 3.6 install this morning at work. Removing some add-ons screwed something up and my browsing suddenly became slow. Like 2-3 seconds before I could get a page to load. Kind of like it trying to do a DNS lookup or something. Uninstalled and reinstalled and everything back to normal. The add-on I believe that caused the grief has been killed a horrible death. ;)
 
Vermillion said:
Yep. Apparently we'll be using FF for a long time to come. According to the NoScript devs the API's needed to make NoScript fully functional aren't even in the latest Chrome beta builds as of January 11, 2010.

http://forums.informaction.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1676
http://hackademix.net/2009/12/10/why-chrome-has-no-noscript/

There's all the information you need about NoScript getting ported to Chrome. Apparently the so called ABP and Flashblock that Chrome does have are only shells of their FF counterpart because of the lack of these API's. Giorgio even has a page to show you how they can be bypassed easily. ;)

As for FF 3.6 I do believe they did indeed fix the Windows Explorer right click of death after a Private Browsing session.

I did manage to screw up my 3.6 install this morning at work. Removing some add-ons screwed something up and my browsing suddenly became slow. Like 2-3 seconds before I could get a page to load. Kind of like it trying to do a DNS lookup or something. Uninstalled and reinstalled and everything back to normal. The add-on I believe that caused the grief has been killed a horrible death. ;)
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Yea the complete lack of support for those two addon's is pretty much the nail in the coffin for chrome for me. Sorry but the minor performance difference between FF and Chrome to me simply is not even worth losing those two addon's.
 
FYI

Sandboxie will have 64 bit support soon. From their site.

Windows 64-bit: Full support for 64-bit is available in recent beta versions of Sandboxie.Click here
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Here is the link they provided in the quote
 
beowulf7 said:
Sweet, I'll install it in about a week just to make sure it's stable.

Can it be updated from 3.5.x or requires to be installed like 3.5 was?
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I'll answer my own question. Help > Check for updates works like a charm. No need to d/l separately and install like you have to when going from 2.x to 3.0 or 3.0 to 3.5. :cool:

I haven't restarted FF yet, so it hasn't been applied yet. I'll do so tomorrow. I hope all my extensions work.
 
I don't want to sound 'nitpicky' here, but when the original article says this:
This version is supposed to be a lot faster, have improved Java performance
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...it makes me cringe. Java? Seriously? Are people still confused about the difference between Java and JavaScript? Beyond a superficial resemblance between the syntax and perhaps certain methods... well, no, in respect to programming languages, they are nothing alike.

Also, there are several adblock extensions for Google Chrome. I use one on my ThinkPad, it works very well. I also use the 'dev channel' release, and keep up-to-date on the release notes RSS, found here:
http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/atom.xml
 
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