Windows 7 good or bad

Should i upgrade??

  • Yes ofcourse

    Votes: 325 97.9%

  • No it has many errors still stick with vista

    Votes: 7 2.1%
  • Total voters
    332
mista ting said:
DTS is not supported in Windows 7

FUCKING FAIL
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I use DTS regularly with Windows Media Player 11. Digital passthrough SPDIF style FTW. I'm a bit of an audiophile too. It does work, you just have to have the codecs for it.
 
Libraries, Taskbar (superbar), Aero shake, Aero Snap, Device Stage, DirectX 11, Windows 7 Reliability Monitor, Windows 7 Problem Steps Recorder, font files preview, new MS paint, Extensible problem resolution troubleshooter, SuperFetch and better Memory Management, Home Group, indexing , windows Backup, defragmentation, Windows Media Player and Windows Media Center, and multitouch features, SSD support, Windows Troubleshooting with Windows PowerShell 2.0, GDI stack…etc

all these and many other features clearly makes Windows 7 better than Vista, but will you really benefit from any one, is it really worth the upgrade for you?
and that’s why this poll won’t give you any accurate info, you should’ve added more options like, yes it’s better than Vista but not worth the upgrade for me.

I voted for “Yes ofcourse” to make the result funnier :D but you might want to have a look at this.
 
Windows 7 is what MS was working towards when they shit bag released Vista. The problem that Vista had was poor 3rd party programming. Ring 0 is sacredd in Vista/Win7 and one has to re-write their programs to the specs MS now demands. Kind of Apple-ish in a way. Try to create an write a txt file in cmd prompt and save it to %systemroot%. It will tell you it saves but if you do a search for that txt file it is located somewhere in a temp\application data\... directory. That is why Vista and win7 is a much better OS than XP. The main reason Vista was deemed not as good as XP was the overwhelming majority of the Apple led sheeple. They are both geat OS's and will be for a long time.
 
Two two people that have stuck with the No option must fit within two categories:
1) Apple users
2) Windows 2000 users


:D
 
Jon55 said:
Fanboyism needs to die.
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Not entirely, we still need a little rivalry to keep things lively! But seriously there's nothing wrong with being a passionate advocate of something that you like. I'm a big Windows fan and advocate the use of Windows. I would expect that Mac fans would do the same, nothing wrong with that as long as you're honest about it and not letting personal bias interfere with sound and objective judgment.
 
If you are on Vista I don't think it is really a MUST BUY situation. However I upgraded from Vista to 7 as soon as the beta got mature enough and I love it. I think it is a solid improvement on Vista in pretty much every way and I even liked Vista.
 
Jon55 said:
Er, I'm an Apple user and I voted "Yes". Windows 7 kicks ass, and so does OS X. Fanboyism needs to die.
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Doesn't mean an Apple user didn't vote for it, at all.
Truthly, the only folks that hate Windows 7 are fanboys of another platform to start with, so pot, kettle?

My two examples were simply another platform entirely (Apple, though this could also mean another version of *nix), and then those still clinging to old versions of Windows.

Freezebyte said:
Now I don't miss Vista at all, so glad I ditched it. Win 7 is something MS finally did fucking right.
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This is what I laugh at every time. Windows 7 didn't magically fix anything major that makes Vista crap.
The only thing major it did was the speed enhancement, past that: minor fixes.

More than anything, it was just a new name. IE, Windows Mojave. They could've released just about anything they wanted and it would've automagically been better than Vista.
 
I was using window vista ultimate.. I switched to windows 7 ult and it FEELS faster... Only thing I miss though is the animated backgrounds. If they would have just fixed that and make it work (not lock up programs) I would have been happy with it.
 
Ricoch3T said:
I switched to windows 7 ult and it FEELS faster...
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Which means absolutely nothing (no offense).

Windows 7 is Vista with some tweaks, some new things, and some things removed. Both are fantastic. There are few reasons for a home user to run XP on a new machine.
 
TechieSooner said:
Doesn't mean an Apple user didn't vote for it, at all.
Truthly, the only folks that hate Windows 7 are fanboys of another platform to start with, so pot, kettle?
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Except I used Windows (and enjoyed using it) long before I ever touched OS X. Now I use and enjoy both.
 
TechieSooner said:
Two two people that have stuck with the No option must fit within two categories:
1) Apple users
2) Windows 2000 users


:D
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I'm number 3

Win 7 No it has many errors still stick with vista

Vista is shnizzit yo and I likes it so much. its like lolzcat gettin up in yo bidness roflecopters Vista 4ever
 
TechieSooner said:
This is what I laugh at every time. Windows 7 didn't magically fix anything major that makes Vista crap.
The only thing major it did was the speed enhancement, past that: minor fixes.

More than anything, it was just a new name. IE, Windows Mojave. They could've released just about anything they wanted and it would've automagically been better than Vista.
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DeathFromBelow said:
Which means absolutely nothing (no offense).

Windows 7 is Vista with some tweaks, some new things, and some things removed. Both are fantastic. There are few reasons for a home user to run XP on a new machine.
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Fine, if you think Vista is such hot shit and Win 7 is poop, go back to Vista and leave the rest of us alone.
 
Freezebyte said:
Fine, if you think Vista is such hot shit and Win 7 is poop, go back to Vista and leave the rest of us alone.
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You're missing their points. They most certainly don't think Windows 7 is poop. The real gist of what they are saying is, no one is denying that Windows 7 is very good or better than Vista. However, the notion that Vista was crap and Windows 7 is the complete opposite is dead wrong, and shows a general ignorance towards the facts...which is what ultimately doomed Vista....public perception...not facts.

In short, for a person to say Vista was pure and utter crap, but Windows 7 is god-like...only stands to show their lack of experience or understanding of Vista. The truth is, Vista was good, but Windows 7 is better. It's like saying Vista is a decent, tasty burger. Windows 7 is a really good burger, with even better toppings and a nicely toasted roll.
 
You FUD-spreaders just love strawman arguments don't you?

Where did I ever say 7 was poop? 7 is definitely better.
But Vista is great as well. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Vista, other than public perception.

Edit- Public perception, spawned on by the very example of what you're doing here... Bashing it with no regards to actual factual evidence.
As with most 7 praisers and Vista bashers... I'm betting you never used Vista, or if you did- it was for a grand total of a week.
 
heaven~lord, what pc are you running this on? I think we all presume you're running this on a newer pc, but I am curious. runs great on my PC, and even my netbook, so I vote yes.
The only issues I've come across are with a Lexmark printer and a Microsoft wireless adapter. so, I guess, check your peripherals.
 
TechieSooner said:
As with most 7 praisers and Vista bashers... I'm betting you never used Vista, or if you did- it was for a grand total of a week.
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I used it for over a year actually, smart ass. Plenty of time for me to find "faults" with it including but not limited to: piss ass slow file transfer via USB/ethernet, unstable boot ups, random lockups, annoying as fuck UAC, shit loads of HDD thrashing, poor memory managment, confusing network manager and layout, application lockups, major slowdowns during multitasking and window swapping, ect..ect..... And yes, I swapped out drivers and did program updates along with SP1 and two fresh reinstalls as well. And it didn't help shit. And guess what, with my Win 7 build now with the same equipment sans HDD, pretty much all of that has gone away.
 
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Lulz @ 98.49% out of 199 votes say "yes". Win7 unanimously pwns Vista.
 
Freezebyte said:
piss ass slow file transfer via USB/ethernet, unstable boot ups, random lockups, annoying as fuck UAC, shit loads of HDD thrashing, poor memory managment, confusing network manager and layout, application lockups, major slowdowns during multitasking and window swapping
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Sounds like just user ignorance to me.
 
Holy cow. I seriously, and I'm not just saying this, haven't seen someone so immature on here.

Anyone that's spent any time with Vista (I seriously don't buy your "I've used it one year" nonsense) can easily refute any of your "faults". Anyone that has any kind of knowledge about Vista can refute what's left. I'd expect one of my idiot end-users that knows nothing about Vista to make such a stupid statement as "poor memory management".
 
Freezebyte said:
I used it for over a year actually, smart ass. Plenty of time for me to find "faults" with it including but not limited to: piss ass slow file transfer via USB/ethernet, unstable boot ups, random lockups, annoying as fuck UAC, shit loads of HDD thrashing, poor memory managment, confusing network manager and layout, application lockups, major slowdowns during multitasking and window swapping, ect..ect..... And yes, I swapped out drivers and did program updates along with SP1 and two fresh reinstalls as well. And it didn't help shit. And guess what, with my Win 7 build now with the same equipment sans HDD, pretty much all of that has gone away.
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Sounds like you totally ripped that out of the Vista Basher Playbook lol

That's exactly what they all say, word for word.
 
mista ting said:
DTS is not supported in Windows 7

FUCKING FAIL
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:confused:

Uh, WIndows 7 Home Premium x64 user here, and DD/DTS Connect works absolutely fine for me in decoder AND passthrough mode with the X-Fi Platinum. Anything that's encoded with 5.1 channel sound, DTS or otherwise, plays back perfectly fine. You always need codec packs, though - did any version of Windows EVER have built-in DTS decoding capabilities? Not that I know of...
 
Freezebyte said:
I used it for over a year actually, smart ass. Plenty of time for me to find "faults" with it including but not limited to: piss ass slow file transfer via USB/ethernet, unstable boot ups, random lockups, annoying as fuck UAC, shit loads of HDD thrashing, poor memory managment, confusing network manager and layout, application lockups, major slowdowns during multitasking and window swapping, ect..ect..... And yes, I swapped out drivers and did program updates along with SP1 and two fresh reinstalls as well. And it didn't help shit. And guess what, with my Win 7 build now with the same equipment sans HDD, pretty much all of that has gone away.
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Right, you used this alleged piece of shit OS for over a year, huh? Why in the hell would anyone in their right mind stick with such a "terrible" OS for over a year, especially someone who probably considers themselves more than just the average computer user? If you had THAT many problems with Vista...then why didn't you switch to something else? :rolleyes:

EDIT: with that said, I used Vista Home Premium x86 from before launch up until last year, and I never had any problems with it. Early last year I decided to foray into the world of 64-bit computing with Vista Business x64, and again - it worked perfectly. I switched to Windows 7 because I loved the new taskbar in the RC and am now using Windows 7 Home Premium x64, but I would have been totally fine with sticking to Vista for another couple years if I had to.
 
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Freezebyte said:
...stupid animated gifs...
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You know, if you want to be taken seriously it helps to post data to prove your points. We enjoy a good, friendly debate around here.

Lets go through your points:
piss ass slow file transfer via USB/ethernet
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If I recall correctly there were some networking speed issues on release, but they were fixed by/before Service Pack 1. Benchmarks show little difference between XP, Vista, and 7's network transfer speeds (see my links to benchmarks below).

unstable boot ups
random lockups
application lockups
shit loads of HDD thrashing
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These are symptoms of a hardware problem on your end.

annoying as fuck UAC
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Again, not a smart thing to say. UAC is perhaps the most important security component in Windows. Running Windows as an Administrator with UAC off is akin to running as root on a Unix-like OS. That's a very, very bad idea. Microsoft's implementation of UAC is far less annoying than the similar systems in place on most Unix-like OS's.

Unfortunately, the typical Windows user could care less about security. As a compromise Windows 7 uses a riskier default security setting for UAC to reduce the number of notifications. I highly recommend going into the UAC options and turning it up all the way.

poor memory managment
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I'm guessing you think that Vista's high memory use as seen in task manager is a sign of poor memory management?

Vista/7's memory footprint actually isn't that large. Most of the memory you see reserved in the task manager is superfetch at work. Superfetch caches frequently used applications in RAM. If another application needs that RAM it releases it.

confusing network manager and layout
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What's so confusing about it?

major slowdowns during multitasking and window swapping
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As I pointed out, benchmarks show few differences between XP, Vista, and 7.

Some comprehensive benchmarks to look at:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-performance,2442.html
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1383898
 
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You forgot some of the links that have Windows 7 outperforming both Vista and XP :D
But I really don't think such a fact would matter.
 
DeathFromBelow said:
Lets go through your points:

If I recall correctly there were some networking speed issues on release, but they were fixed by/before Service Pack 1. Benchmarks show little difference between XP, Vista, and 7's network transfer speeds (see my links to benchmarks below).


These are symptoms of a hardware problem on your end.(harddrive thrashing )
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I'll chime in on these two points; I have loaded vista on a number of machines, and these two symptoms are common. Even with Sp1, network transfer speeds are horrible compared to an xp box ( and yes, I've done side by side comparisons ). USB transfer speeds are quite a bit slower to, compared to XP on any number of vista installs I've played with.

I have also seen the harddrive thrashing issue, although it does not appear to be consistent across all installs. It does not appear to be related to faulty hardware either, as the same hardware works fine in 7 and xp.
 
Aw, I didn't get to see FreezeByte's blatant troll response to my post before it was DELETED. :D

In any case, the only thing I've ever experienced that made me go "wtf?" in both Vista and Windows 7 is the countdown timer when copying/transferring files. XP seems to have been able to calculate the actual time it would take to move a file more precisely than Vista/W7 - but the actual time it took to do the transfer was really close to the same amount of time. Something that would report as taking 5 minutes in XP would report as taking 15 minutes (crude example) in Vista/W7, but the actual time it took to complete the transfer would be around, if not exactly the same when all is said and done. It does bug me - because sometimes I don't realize right away that it will take the same amount of time, but in the end it doesn't really make a difference.
 
rflcptr said:
My only beef is not having a shutdown confirmation in Vista/7.
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I found this annoying too. I wish it were like OS X, where it gives you a confirmation box and in it is a 1 minute timer which, unless you click Yes or No, automatically shuts down once the timer runs out.
 
Jon55 said:
I found this annoying too. I wish it were like OS X, where it gives you a confirmation box and in it is a 1 minute timer which, unless you click Yes or No, automatically shuts down once the timer runs out.
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Yup, that seems much more intuitive. My "solution" has been hitting Alt-F4 with either the Taskbar or Desktop in focus. :(
 
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