Google Hacked the Chinese Hackers Right Back

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Apparently Google doesn’t like being attacked. Matter o’ fact, they hate it so much...they might even attack you right back.

One of the cooler stories out the whole Google-China debacle is that Google hacked the hackers, breaking into a computer in Taiwan, gathering evidence that the attacks originated from mainland China, possibly orchestrated by the government.
 
so i guess china hacked into taiwan computers first, using those are proxies to hack google.

china didnt hide their back trail of proxies well enough i guess. They should learn it better from russian hackers.
 
I hope they didn't screw up the recipe for General Tso's Chicken. :mad:

Seriously, what did the hackers in China expect? Guys that design and maintain a website as huge as Google are bound to know something about computers..........:rolleyes:
 
Check this out guys, this is insanely great, it's got a 28.8 BPS modem!

oh obscure hackers referances, how i never get a chance to use you.
 
I hope they didn't screw up the recipe for General Tso's Chicken. :mad:

Seriously, what did the hackers in China expect? Guys that design and maintain a website as huge as Google are bound to know something about computers..........:rolleyes:

That recipe is safe, since that is an american-chinese recipe anyhow.
 
Check this out guys, this is insanely great, it's got a 28.8 BPS modem!

oh obscure hackers referances, how i never get a chance to use you.

DADE
It has a killer refresh rate.

KATE
P6 chip. Triple the speed of the Pentium.

DADE
Yeah. It's not just the chip, it has a PCI
bus. But you knew that.

KATE
Indeed. RISC architecture is gonna change
everything.

DADE
Yeah. RISC is good.

:D
 
' For example, the servers that carried out many of the attacks were based in Taiwan, though a Google executive said “it only took a few seconds to determine that the real origin was on the mainland.” '

I like how they tried to frame Taiwan
 
Even funnier than the original news is the comments around here... Gotta love this forum
 
If the place that you get your General T'so Chicken serve you a red sauce, then get your money back. The only true General T'so Chicken comes in a spice brown sauce. Just a tid bit of info :)
 
Would be so awesome to hit my home page and see
"We are sorry but all of our servers are in use right now stealing all of chinas secrets and shutting down their entire infrastructure. Please join us later while we look over all of the human rights violations, environmental destruction, and other authoritarian evils :D.. Google, do no evil"

A man can dream cant he?
 
"More to the point, "much of the evidence, including the sophistication of the attacks, strongly suggested an operation run by Chinese government agencies, or at least approved by them." Unfortunately, Google can't prove the Chinese government's involvement 100 percent, which is why the Obama administration is pussy-footing around the issue."

It's a shame they couldn't conclusively prove the Chinese government was involved :(

 
FUnny

rookie "hackers" on the other end......

oh well so we now know google is really G00Gl3 L33T!! :eek:
 
I think this might be one of the first time that an American company has openly admitted to cyberspace retaliation against a state-sanctioned entity. A page has been written into posterity without doubt over this incident.
 
Nice for Google, I guess... It's not like even if they found concrete evidence against the chinese government that they could do anything about it except for pull out of the region.

Yeah, go ahead and try to sue the Chinese Gov. What's that I hear: The sound of 1 million gold farmers laughing.
 
Nice for Google, I guess... It's not like even if they found concrete evidence against the chinese government that they could do anything about it except for pull out of the region.

Yeah, go ahead and try to sue the Chinese Gov. What's that I hear: The sound of 1 million gold farmers laughing.

keke

Anyways, if its found that the Chinese government was responsible, or complicit, cut them off the intarwebz.
 
haha this is great bout time someone tried getting some hard evidence on this bastards
 
[H]ydra;1035191014 said:
"More to the point, "much of the evidence, including the sophistication of the attacks, strongly suggested an operation run by Chinese government agencies, or at least approved by them." Unfortunately, Google can't prove the Chinese government's involvement 100 percent, which is why the Obama administration is pussy-footing around the issue."

It's a shame they couldn't conclusively prove the Chinese government was involved :(


And if they do prove they are involved, no President is going to do anything about it.
 
[H]ydra;1035191014 said:
"More to the point, "much of the evidence, including the sophistication of the attacks, strongly suggested an operation run by Chinese government agencies, or at least approved by them." Unfortunately, Google can't prove the Chinese government's involvement 100 percent, which is why the Obama administration is pussy-footing around the issue."

It's a shame they couldn't conclusively prove the Chinese government was involved :(


This looks like a more complete story...

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/opinion/1586126/white-house-steps-google-row-china

A few sample quotes...

"But we should not be surprised as it is starting to look like the whole thing is as much an embarrassment to the US government as it is to Google. Suggestions are that the same software Google uses to snoop on customers for US law enforcement might have provided Chinese hackers with their attack vector."

"If this is true, it is running counter to the official story that claims Chinese dissidents were tricked with a bogus Trojan. It highlights the weaknesses in Google's cloud computing plans and how the US government's obsession to snoop on its citizens actually puts them at risk."
 
I don't think that Google knows what they have gotten into. But what a ballsy move!
 
There is actually more facet to this story too.

Here's something that was said on http://club.pchome.net/thread_1_15_4995781.html, which is a Chinese website.

(No, I did not feed this to Google Translate. I have some moonspeak-fu)

still, grain of salt should be applied.

PChome article said:
...After Google HQ declared that they would pull out of China, they took away Chinese engineers' privilege to access Google proxy servers, and most found out when they couldn't get anywhere past home directory the moment they get back to work, with no prior notice whatsoever. A great number of work (web codes) in progress just stopped working, and work can only continue if (the engineers) are moved to the States and only after weeks have passed.

Why such drastic measures had Google made a planned retreat? It can very well have kept its employees at work, or to even assign them to mop-up works. An example would be how that the Chinese and American subsidiaries of Google Music are independent (music.google.cn and music.google.com), so one can simply ask the Chinese staffs to transfer the server codes on their end.

What's actually happening though is that Chinese engineers are on pay leave while the westerners are doing the mop-up (at Google China).

Why does Google suddenly distrusts the Chinese team? Wouldn't it be alot more efficient to have those that worked on their own codes being responsible for (potential server) migration?

The only explanation is that the techies within Google (China) have been assigned party work (right over the Shanghai Google office)

The truth be that, upon successful interview and being employed by Google, these people would copy crucial Gmail codes and hand it over to the party organ, and the motive behind breaking Gmail would be to obtain emails from "Human Rights Groups", which you can see over the Google public declaration (official blog article, A New Approach to China)

This obviously exposes the vulnerabilities within Gmail, something that Google cannot deny or risk damaging its reputation further, leaving the only logical option being to cease all Chinese operations; Chinese engineers can no longer gain access to Google proxies. After that it would take the few days of afforded time to fix up the Gmail codes.

The actual course of events is really that simple, and more or less happened suddenly out of the blue. This is why that the official declaration by Google seems to be penned in a hurry, and you can easily feel the frayed emotions at the very top (of Google), following the decision made by the three executives (Schmidt, Page and Brin) after their emergency meeting. Can the wordings have been so unrefined from Google had it been an orchestrated effort with the U.S Federal government?

Google didn't leave out of the issue of censorship, which did ire Google for years, but it put up with it. Rather, it is this clandestine espionage operation (by the Chinese government) that puts Google's future at risk of ruination. In another word, staying in China will threaten the survival of (Google) the company, which leaves it closing up shop in China with haste.

This also accounts for why Google retracting its prior intent of negotiating with China today (15th), for even of the government retracts its position, Google would be in peril if it stays any longer. The potential measly gains of money against the life of the company is too great a risk to handle.

(As for Chinese) Google engineers and their privileges to access Google codes, it has to be said that Google does trust the integrity of its personals. Even a mere intern can gain access to 99% of the codes. There is only one real source database for Google, and everyone learns that the first rule of thumb is to "search"...
 
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