Seagate Barracuda LP ST31500541AS 1.5TB 5900 RPM 32MB - 89.99 FS

unkown-one -- please delete your post. its grossly inaccurate and has no value to this thread.
 
I've heard better things about the green but could just be random from the people I've talked with. I'm trying to decide the same thing right now so hopefully someone else will speak up.
 
even though i prefer WD, i would buy the 500gb larger seagate drive. theyre not going to be any difference in performance, and reliability is good enough across all brands.
 
Nevermind thought that was a 1.5tb green for nearly the same price as the 1.5tb baracuda.

For .5tb I'd get the WD

I think I might order 3 right now.
 
Unknown-One said:
Eh? I thought it was well known that Newegg tends to skimp on packing when it comes to hard disks.
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not for the last... well for quite awhile now. there never was a huge problem, mainly only when ordering 3 or more drives at once... and newegg knew about it and fixed the problem. its been talked about in every newegg thread for the last few months at least...

now they are all bubblewrapped and well packaged. there should be zero concern buying from newegg.
 
StoneTZ said:
Nevermind thought that was a 1.5tb green for nearly the same price as the 1.5tb baracuda.

For .5tb I'd get the WD

I think I might order 3 right now.
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I must be blind, because I thought the same thing - good catch. That's why I don't make buying decisions at 5am :D
 
krupted said:
not for the last... well for quite awhile now. there never was a huge problem, mainly only when ordering 3 or more drives at once... and newegg knew about it and fixed the problem. its been talked about in every newegg thread for the last few months at least...

now they are all bubblewrapped and well packaged. there should be zero concern buying from newegg.
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Yeah, I've seen their bubble-wrap job. Wasn't enough to save the Western Digital 1TB drive I ordered from them.

That hard disk (and the DVD-Burner in the same box) were dead on arrival. It's pretty hard to kill a DVD-burner, but apparently shipping thrashed the box around pretty hard. The box was significantly larger than the bubble-wrapped contents, allowing the hard disk and DVD-Burner to tumble around during shipment.

This was an order placed just a couple of months ago. I haven't ordered anything with moving parts from newegg since. No complaints with their service though, they gave me a full refund and payed for shipping the dead products back.
 
krupted said:
unkown-one -- please delete your post. its grossly inaccurate and has no value to this thread.
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um, no. it has been an issue time to time. Newegg always fixes it but they do not exactly have the best packaging. its not grossly inaccurate and it is a consideration.

I still think that is a good deal though.
 
krupted said:
not for the last... well for quite awhile now. there never was a huge problem, mainly only when ordering 3 or more drives at once... and newegg knew about it and fixed the problem. its been talked about in every newegg thread for the last few months at least...

now they are all bubblewrapped and well packaged. there should be zero concern buying from newegg.
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Their packaging is unfortunately still a problem, at least on a case-by-case basis. I just ordered a 2TB drive from them, and it appears they just wrapped the drive in a rather thin layer of bubble wrap and placed it on top of a box of packing peanuts. If the drive was in the peanuts, it might've been okay, but it wasn't, and now I can only wonder why the drive doesn't work properly. :(

This hasn't happened every time, though. Sometimes the packing's exemplary, but other times like this... I know they can do better.
 
krupted said:
unkown-one -- please delete your post. its grossly inaccurate and has no value to this thread.
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Peanuts and bubble wrap are not appropriate disk packing materials no matter how they're used. Read the pages at Seagate and WD. Multiple inches of foam are needed. Bubble wrap and peanuts are pointless.

Also, an impact during shipment generally does not show up as a DOA. It causes hidden damage that leads to premature failure. It's like a ticking timebomb that will go off in 6 months, a year, or two.
 
It's hit and miss with packing. I have purchased no less than 25 drives from them over the last 3 years and all have been packed great. If you search, Amazon and ZZF have issues now and then also.
 
When does Newegg go public?

I'm also wary about buying HDDs from them given their sometimes scant packaging for HDDs. :(

This is a green (read: slow) drive. I prefer 7200 RPM for faster backups.

Yikes, there are a lot of 1/5 reviews - over 1/3 of them. :eek:
 
Just got my SSD from NewEgg yesterday, and the packaging was as bad as ever. No bubble wrap, period....just those little peanuts everywhere. The SSD was sitting on the bottom of the box with no padding whatsoever between it and the bottom.

Fortunately, the SSD is fine since it has no mechanical parts. But that tells me that NewEgg still has bad HDD packaging sometimes.
 
Can't trust Newegg's packing on hard disks. Sweet price, but pass
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Couldn't agree more. I've ordered hard drives from them 3-4 times, twice the drives were DOA (click of death) due to piss-poor packing. "Wrap drives in 3/4" of bubble wrap, throw in bottom of big box, cover with peanuts" seems to be their motto. Both times it was obvious when opening the box that the drives were going to be dead.
 
I'm running 2 of these drives in my media server and they are 10c cooler than my 7200rpm 1.5TB drives. For me, I'll take 10c cooler temps over higher spindle speeds any day for a storage drive.

Since we're now going on anecdotal evidence, I've purchased 7 drives from Newegg in the past month over multiple orders and all have came very well packed compared to the old packaging. First order each drive was wrapped and then boxed, and the second the drives wrapped and packaged in part of the original OEM styrofoam. Out of all the drives I've ever purchased from Newegg, I've had one drive that failed and was probably due the a power issue than packaging. The fact is they've responded to the criticism and this thread should really be about the deal and not how hard drives were packaged 6 months ago.

Also... since when is a LP 1TB drive for $80 a deal... When Newegg sells the same drive for $5 higher, I hardly call that a deal.
 
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i think DOA drives have more to do with poor manufacturing rather then poor packaging while shipped. theyre designed to take abuse, thats why theyre not always packaged so great. to me it seems people overreact on harddrive packaging, and since its HardOCP people just have a salt towards newegg to begin with because they dont advertise here anymore.
 
krupted said:
i think DOA drives have more to do with poor manufacturing rather then poor packaging while shipped. theyre designed to take abuse, thats why theyre not always packaged so great. to me it seems people overreact on harddrive packaging, and since its HardOCP people just have a salt towards newegg to begin with because they dont advertise here anymore.
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No, the complaints about packaging came eons before they quit advertising on this site. And hard-drives are not built to take abuse. They are precise, fragile pieces of equipment.
 
Operational Shock 63 Gs max at 2 msec
Non-Operational Shock 300 Gs max at 2 msec

(random seagate drive spec sheet)

They should be fine for how newegg ships them, I've had drives straight from seagate / WD fail after a week (RMA's) and I've had maybe 1 of 40+ drives from newegg DOA, and another one that failed a few weeks after (the original Seagate 1.5TB which had a lot of problems)... people who have problems speak up about it, people who don't have any problems don't have anything to say.

I've received some drives that were terribly packed and they still worked fine.. worse than anything newegg has put out.
 
Never had an issue, and I have ordered tons of stuff and drives from newegg.

DOA drives happen, no matter what packaging. That is why newegg is very good about replacements and the drives have very good warranties.

As Blazestorm pointed out, the drives are not really fragile at all when not in use, they are built to take some serious shock.
 
I honestly just want to take some drives, throw them across the room and hit a wall, or drop from a decent height, then test them, and see what happens... I only got a 10 yr old IBM 10GB that's still kicking that I'd be willing to "sacrifice"

Because people seem so sure that their drives were damaged by "poor packing" even though they don't have any proof.
 
i've been buying drives from newegg for years. every time my drive arrives as described - bubble wrap with peanuts. and i've never, ever had a drive doa. personally, i think it's an overreaction.
 
Blazestorm said:
I honestly just want to take some drives, throw them across the room and hit a wall, or drop from a decent height, then test them, and see what happens... I only got a 10 yr old IBM 10GB that's still kicking that I'd be willing to "sacrifice"

Because people seem so sure that their drives were damaged by "poor packing" even though they don't have any proof.
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You've gotten me curious now. :p I wouldn't "sacrifice" such a trooper, though... survived ten years of usage only to be potentially pwned for experimental purposes.

I think peace of mind does wonders. Even if packaging has nothing to do with drives being DOA, my first reaction upon opening the box containing the drive I just bought was "uh-oh," and I've never even had a problem with Newegg's packaging or UPS's shipping before.

Now, I'm not saying the packaging is what killed the drive, but considering how I've seen Newegg pack other things as well as they do (my last keyboard purchase came buried and packed tight in a huge box of styrofoam peanuts), I don't get why they seemingly "rushed" on the packaging for this drive.
 
My wife worked for Fed Ex and she has told me terrible stories of how packages are treated. I have also experienced the Newegg packaging issues. Never had a drive die but I have noticed I have the best luck with the TN warehouse. The last time I purchased multiple drives that shipped from Ca they came individually wrapped in a thin layer of bubble wrap then dropped in an over sized box. The last time my drives shipped from TN my 2 drives were wrapped in bubble wrap then wrapped together with bubble wrap. My last orders were 4 weeks apart.
 
i just jumped on this deal as i had gotten the email late at night.


My only concern is putting really really sensitive data on this drive, and then having it take a dump on me after a month of dependency.

What can i do to ensure that this drive isn't faulty from the start?
I was reading in the reviews about running loops of seatools. Would this be right? Anything else you guys do before you start to trust your drive?
 
m_three10 said:
i just jumped on this deal as i had gotten the email late at night.


My only concern is putting really really sensitive data on this drive, and then having it take a dump on me after a month of dependency.

What can i do to ensure that this drive isn't faulty from the start?
I was reading in the reviews about running loops of seatools. Would this be right? Anything else you guys do before you start to trust your drive?
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I stopped trusting my sacred data to drive setups without parity protection precisely due to the size alone. (I use UnRAID for my needs and have not had any issues with using consumer grade disks in its arrays.)

Honestly, most of the time you won't know if a new drive is going to go down unless it sounds sick to begin with. Best thing you can probably do is run some low level diagnostic scans (included in SeaTools) and a full format. If nothing really crops up within the first 30 days then knowing when the hard drive may fail becomes quite difficult. (I have drives from 1993 that still work but I've had "bullet proof" WD drives from 2007 fail within a year.) After the initial usage period, my experience is that the operating environment becomes very important.

Anecdotal Evidence:
Over the 16 years I've been building computers, my uncle and I have built similar systems and bought similar quantities of drives. I've had 3 or 4 drives fail in that entire time period, he has probably had 3-4 times that amount of failures. Since our systems are similar, the biggest difference I can find is the environments we place our systems. Mine have always been on regulated power sources and I've always taken great care when doing maintenance on my machines. My uncle on the other hand has noticeable power issues in the room where all of his equipment with no battery backups or other gear to help smooth out the power fluctuations to his computers. He also tends to be sloppy about maintenance and will actually leave his drives hanging out of the system. So it is not surprising to me when we talk and he complains about his hard drives dying on him.
 
m_three10 said:
i just jumped on this deal as i had gotten the email late at night.


My only concern is putting really really sensitive data on this drive, and then having it take a dump on me after a month of dependency.

What can i do to ensure that this drive isn't faulty from the start?
I was reading in the reviews about running loops of seatools. Would this be right? Anything else you guys do before you start to trust your drive?
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if your data is that important then rad 1 and backups. its as simple as that. your never going to have that kind security on the lower class drives.
 
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