windows xp question

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i have a windows xp cd with no service packs. if i use this disc can i install straight sp3? or do i have to go sp1, sp2 then sp3?
 
You can get something like AutoStreamer and make yourself an SP3 incorporated disc, and then use your key. I've used the same set of keys through all SP levels.
 
i have a windows xp cd with no service packs. if i use this disc can i install straight sp3? or do i have to go sp1, sp2 then sp3?
Download SP2 and SP3 stand alone's. Then grab nlite. Copy your XP disc into a folder on your system and point nlite to that folder. Integrate SP2, reload the program then integrate SP3 into it and create a new img, burn it, install from that.
 
Download SP2 and SP3 stand alone's. Then grab nlite. Copy your XP disc into a folder on your system and point nlite to that folder. Integrate both SP2/SP3 into it and create a new img, burn it, install from that.

ive done this but my friend said its not accepting the cd key...hmmm ill have to check it for myself
 
ive done this but my friend said its not accepting the cd key...hmmm ill have to check it for myself
There's a difference between OEM and Retail keys. Make sure you're using the appropriate disc and not using retail disc for slipstream then trying to plug in an OEM key.
 
If you're dealing with a VLK edition of XP (aka "Corporate") there was a change to the PIDGEN.DLL file in Service Pack 3 that makes it incompatible with the one from SP2/pre-SP2 editions. In simplest terms, if you have an untouched XP distribution of the VLK form, and you slipstream SP3 directly into it, your VLK will not work past that point. You'd need to locate the PIDGEN.DLL file from an XP SP1 or SP2 distribution and copy that file to the SP3 i386 directory before creating the CD.

Long complicated story, just wanted to include it in case the OP happens to be making these attempts with an actual VLK edition.

nLite is still the preferred tool for just integrating a service pack, in my opinion. Very fast, little muss and fuss, gets the job done, creates the end result ISO or can do a direct burn at that point.
 
Is that the case with all VLK licenses? I've used Autostreamer to take my original holographic VLK XP no-SP disc up through each level, and haven't had a problem using it with SP3 incorporated. I've never actually gotten a VLK disc that had any SP installed, so I know I've gone through each step, building upon the previous level.
 
Can't speak for all the potential licenses, I just speak from my own experience and reading the comments from others that have made such attempts. When SP3 first came out, and I mean the initial day of public release, I grabbed it and made my own SP3 integrated disc using my then much used XP SP3 VLK edition (I actually was a partner in a small business long ago so my VLK is one I actually paid for out of pocket and will stand the test of time) and was dismayed to find out after the slipstream that my key wouldn't work.

Did some research and caught postings from other VLK owners that were having the same issue. It had something to do with the PIDGEN.DLL file from SP2 being replaced by a newer one for XP SP3 - if you remember, the idea was that XP SP3 would not ask for a key during the installation, at least that's what I kept reading, and would prompt for one after the install, aka how Vista/Windows 7 can be installed.

But, in my experience, since SP3 came out I've never ever encountered a situation where it didn't ask for the key and would not get past that point just by clicking Next with no key entered, so I've never been able to figure it out.

Anyway, someone made a suggestion of "backing up a step" and using the PIDGEN.DLL file from XP SP2 with an XP SP3 integration - so I integrated SP3 into my XP SP2 installation files, then went back and replaced that one PIDGEN.DLL into the SP3 folder (all of this was on the hard drive, of course). After that I had a complete XP SP3 VLK installation folder ready to go with one single file from SP2.

Made the ISO with nLite, and this time instead of wasting a CD (making the assumption that it would work like I did with the first burn) I tested it in a VirtualBox VM and my key worked fine. I still had the previous full SP3 ISO so I tested that in the same VM immediately afterwards, no dice, it wouldn't accept my legit VLK.

Passed along my results to others and they confirmed our findings (as a group) and spread the word. Some people don't have issues with it, some do - perhaps the actual licensing does have something to do with it based on the class of the VLK, I have no idea.

I'm just passing on my own experience... YMMV.
 
im using an OEM windows xp home

Is this going to be installed on an OEM machine, like a Dell, HP, Gateway, etc? Or on your own build? Is the disc you have branded with a name on it like Dell, HP, etc, or does it say "System Builder" on it someplace?
 
its a custom computer..it donesnt say on the disc...just says windows xp home then has version 2002
 
But it's a hologram disc, I presume... if it doesn't say System Builder or it doesn't have "OEM" on it someplace, it could be a straight retail disc...

Put the disc in a CD drive and read the volume label on it and tell us what it says. By volume label I mean what you see in Explorer for the disc name. See if it matches anything on this list:

http://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=226

If it's WXHFPP_EN then it's a retail XP Home disc...
 
Whats the difference between VLK Volume License (Product) Key and VOL Volume (License). Is one for using the same key (vol) and other for having individual keys?
 
VOL is what's required to get the VLKs I suppose... :) Get the license to use the keys associated to that license, who knows. Never got into the finer points of volume licensing, I just said "Ok, here's my share of the bill, gimme the key so I can get back to work..." and never looked back.
 
hehe Somehow, just somehow I knew that was going to be the solution. Why? Because nobody even suggested it...

If you've seen the movie "Let It Ride" with Richard Dreyfuss and you remember the part where he's out trying to pick a horse in a horse race and he chooses one simply for the reason that nobody else does, you'll get that. :D
 
The XP SP3 network admin installer requires at least SP1 to be present, IIRC.
 
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