Razer Barracude HP-1 $55 Shipped

Er... these are the headphones and it's $60 now...

Soundcard is worth that, not the headphones imo... even paired with this I wasn't a big fan.
 
They have similar names...

Razer Barracuda HP-1
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Razer Barracuda AC-1

AC-1 being the sound-card
 
I bought the sound card from Woot! about a year ago but it didn't replace the Creative X-Fi card I have since Creative still had EAX4 tied down when the cuda was produced, which has changed since. The music sound quality was great though. Very high quality DACs.
 
I have had both the AC-1 and the HP-1 for nearly two years now. While the sound card is excellent, the headphones are gimmicky crap. I tossed them after a month. Any decent pair of stereo headphones are better. Sorry to threadcrap, but really, they're not worth it.
 
:) Glad I DIDN'T get the Z-5500. I was thinking about it then I read the thread on the Hot Deals Discussions and said "I am mad as Hell and I am not going to take this anymore!" :) [guess where the quote came from] I had the Z-5300s. Nice budget set [got them for $20] but I never got too excited about them with the AC-1 and opted to use my headphones instead for most of the time.

Got the HT-SP904 used for $250 shipped. :) Got some Monoprice wires coming and some 3.5mm-->RCA connectors so I can test the DACs in the AC-1 properly this time.

Why would people want the HP-1 if they don't have the AC-1 sound card? You can't really use the headphone to the fullest since other soundcards do not have the HD-DAI.
 
Yeorwned said:
Aye! You need a nice system to fully appreciate them. Majority of people can't tell the difference because they are using Logitec speakers...
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As a fan of Logitech, I must protest. They may not be audiophile quality, but they'll beat the pants off of a lot of other brands such as Labtec, Targus, Fred Meyer in-house generic, Creative Labs, etc. Plus, the amps don't explode 2 days after the warranty expires like Klipsch do. For a sub-$700 sound system, Logitech speakers are fine. I don't use mine anymore, though, because I love my HP-1/AC-1 combo even more :D
 
brownbomber said:
Ok I am n41....I hope this sound card sound better than my creative one.
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LOL... AC-1 or HP-1? Because HP-1 is the headphone not the soundcard. Go over and talk to flyboy over at the Auzentech thread about getting a 'real' modern quality pci-e sound card. ;) Hopefully he can convince you to upgrade your mobo from pci to pci-e slots so that you can enjoy the great benefits of increased bandwidth for sound processing.
 
ebolamonkey said:
LOL... AC-1 or HP-1? Because HP-1 is the headphone not the soundcard. Go over and talk to flyboy over at the Auzentech thread about getting a 'real' modern quality pci-e sound card. ;) Hopefully he can convince you to upgrade your mobo from pci to pci-e slots so that you can enjoy the great benefits of increased bandwidth for sound processing.
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You are no doubt reading something into my words that not only I did not say but had no intention of inferring.

If you can show me where I said or inferred that bandwidth of the PCIe bus gives any benefit over the PCI bus I am man enough to apologize.

If someone has an available PCIe slot and are going to buy a new soundcard would they be wiser to buy a PCI sound card or a PCIe soundcard. Convince me that my next motherboard will even have a PCI slot. My next upgrade I will have to buy a CPU, memory and motherboard. I do not like onboard sound. I do not think I want to buy a soundcard when I upgrade my system.

flylow said:
That is probably going to be a difficult question to find an answer to. I almost bought a Razer AC-1 about a year ago when it was sold at www.woot.com for somewhere around $50 but I decided to wait and upgrade to a PCIe soundcard instead. You can probably still find the Razer AC-1 on ebay but even http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-audio/razer-barracuda-ac1 lists it as not available so I doubt if any of the professional review sites will do a comparison.

My personal guess would be if you do not need a PCIe soundcard and the Razer AC-1 is working fine for you there is probably no reason to upgrade.

Any problems with the Razer AC-1 in win7 64-bit?
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flylow said:
For winxp and PCI I do not think I would even consider spending money to upgrade. The Razer AC-1, from what I have read, is said to be a great sounding card. Why upgrade a good sounding card if you do not need/want PCIe? Only reason I can come up with would be for driver support in win7.

Anyone compared the Razer AC-1 and Auzentech Forte in win7 64-bit?
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ebolamonkey said:
http://www.overclock.net/sound-cards-computer-audio/366732-pci-vs-pci-e-soundcard.html

Couldn't reply to pm but explain to me why pci-e sound cards so so much superior?
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flylow said:
You PMed me. I replied then I turned off my PM so I would not get any more PMs from you.

Think about why PCI cards are "superior" to ISA soundcards. Why would someone with an available PCIe slot choose PCIe over PCI?
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flylow said:
25 left as of 07/25/2009 at 1:47 AM Pacific Time.

Some motherboards currently sold do not have even one PCI slot. For instance http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131390

Will my next motherboard even have a PCI slot? Probably not.

Of course one could always buy one of these: http://www.virtuavia.eu/shop/pci-express-to-pci-adapter-p29855.html

I am not saying that the Forte is better or worse than any other brands such as, but not limited to, Creative, Asus, Razer or insert your favorite brand/model here ______________. I am not saying PCIe is better or worse than ISA, PCI, USB or any other bus or interface past, present or future. Just because I bought and like something doesn't mean you would like it or that it would suit your wants/needs. Just because you bought and like something does not mean I would like it or that it would suit my wants/needs. I do not desire to play the "mine is bigger/better than yours" game with anyone.
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I said that I did not desire to. But I did not say I was beneath it.
 
I am hoping that ebolamonkey will be kind enough to point out where I spoke about the subject concerning his statement "convince you to upgrade your mobo from pci to pci-e slots so that you can enjoy the great benefits of increased bandwidth for sound processing." If he can I will publicly apologize here in the forum.
 
I will be more than happy to publicly apologize to ebolamonkey right here in this thread if someone can help me find where I said anything about PCIe bandwidth being of any benefit over PCI bandwidth for a soundcard.

Anyone care to go to http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1437529 and point it out to me?

Anyone at all?
 
"Please enlighten me as to why the old PCI bus is superior to the newer faster PCIe bus and how winxp is superior to win7." -flylow

I read it like you were selling PCIe. Please enlighten me why a soundcard would ever require such bandwidths.
 
ebolamonkey said:
"Please enlighten me as to why the old PCI bus is superior to the newer faster PCIe bus and how winxp is superior to win7." -flylow

I read it like you were selling PCIe. Please enlighten me why a soundcard would ever require such bandwidths.
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There you go again. I stated “Why upgrade a good sounding card if you do not need/want PCIe?”. Then I merely replied to your PM rephrasing your PM in hopes that it would cause you to pause and actually think. I turned off my PM because after reading a few of your other posts I saw no point in discussing anything at all with you. Then you changed my username around and claimed I said something I did not. Are you still attempting to change the subject to PCI versus PCIe bandwidth in regards to soundcards to win an argument? If so then you are indeed correct and win in your "mine is bigger/better than yours" game.

But lets get back to what I wrote concerning the subject of choosing a PCI or PCIe soundcard if you have an available PCIe slot rather than change the subject. If you think PCI is a better choice for all you lose. PCI is going bye bye and if someone has an available PCIe slot and needs or wants to buy a new soundcard right now and desires to use it in a future build buying a PCI card at this time may not be wisest choice. Good luck using your PCI soundcard in a motherboard you buy in a year or two. So in this case you lose in your "mine is bigger/better than yours" game and your even bringing up bandwidth can only be construed as a vain attempt to be right about something.

ebolamonkey said:
LOL... AC-1 or HP-1? Because HP-1 is the headphone not the soundcard. Go over and talk to flyboy over at the Auzentech thread about getting a 'real' modern quality pci-e sound card. ;) Hopefully he can convince you to upgrade your mobo from pci to pci-e slots so that you can enjoy the great benefits of increased bandwidth for sound processing.
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Simply point where I said anyone should upgrade their motherboard so they can reap benefits of increased bandwidth of PCIe over PCI for soundcards and I will apologize. If you can I PHAIL. If you cannot then you PHAIL. Would I be correct if I said that you are trying to convince people to throw away their PCIe soundcards and replace them with a PCI soundcard even if they have to buy new motherboard to get a PCI slot because they are wasting available bandwidth? I did not read that into your posts. IMHO it would take someone with a very imaginative mind to assume that I was telling people "to upgrade your mobo from pci to pci-e slots so that you can enjoy the great benefits of increased bandwidth for sound processing.

I am still thinking that IDE, floppy, ps2 and PCI will probably be gone in the next year or two. ISA and AGP are pretty much gone for all practical purposes. I do not think that PCI will remain just because soundcards do not need the additional bandwidth PCIe provides. Some motherboards already do not have PCI slots which is actually a good thing. PCIe Bus versus PCI Bus bandwidth is definitely a pointless issue especially when it comes to soundcards, not even worth wasting thought on for anyone considering upgrading their soundcard.

I hope that the mods lock this thread. It does not have a chance of being of assistance to anyone. I am definitely getting reminded of the old 3dfx forums where I would have said something like, but probably much worse, "Since you took the liberty to call me "flyboy" instead of flylow I am willing to risk getting banned by asking if you have talked to your doctor about your current meds...
 
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