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Dell 2209WA for me?
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No, the 2209WA is currently a one-of-a-kind - the only e-IPS monitor of any size, which makes it easy to recommend. There is literally no competition for it. It is not by any means a perfect monitor, but it utterly destroys anything within $100 of its price.
The S2409W is a TN panel and will not look anywhere near as good. To get a 24" monitor with image quality equal or better than the 2209WA, you'd be spending $500 or more on the 2408WFP, HP LP2475w, or NEC 2490.
The S2409W is a TN panel and will not look anywhere near as good. To get a 24" monitor with image quality equal or better than the 2209WA, you'd be spending $500 or more on the 2408WFP, HP LP2475w, or NEC 2490.
wait:
there is this deal:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1400869&page=7
so dual monitors 20" or 1 22"?
how much better is the color?
thanks
there is this deal:
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1400869&page=7
so dual monitors 20" or 1 22"?
how much better is the color?
thanks
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I wouldn't say that 2408WFP has better image quality than 2209WA (IPS vs *VA in the first place).
daveswantek
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Go look on eBay; $230 free shipping, 3 year warranty, and no sales tax. I just bought one from a highly rated power seller, and it is flawless other than the white glow which is to be expected.
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A lot of people here will instantly recommend an IPS over a TN. I've been a graphic designer for 13 years and 9 of those professionally. I've worked on TN, IPS and of course CRT (usually Trinitrons). I respect the opinions of the people on this forum, but in a way they are the extreme cork sniffers of the monitor world (and I don't mean that in an offensive way). Nothing wrong with appreciating the finer things, but in reality thegap between TN and IPS isn't as large as some would have you believe. The fact is that modern TN panel's are in no way "utterly destroyed" by IPS. I've had TN and IPS side by side. On some well calibrated TN panels, you literally can't tell a difference from head on. Of course from an angle, that is a different story, but I don't view my screen from an angle. If you are doing design from an angle, then you have bigger problems than your screen's color reproduction. The point is that I would net hesitate to do video editing and design work on a TN. I have NEVER had a problem with it, and my clients have never had a problem with the results.
I recently bought a 24" BenQ V2400W. I could have had the 22" Dell IPS for $20 less. I would prefer the extra 36,000 pixels of the 24" over the 22" IPS panel. It seems that a lot of people here have the impression that all that matters when it comes to design is color reproduction. Screen real estate is a HUGE factor as well though, and 1680x1050 just isn't quite enough IMO.
So...draw your own conclusions. Unless you are cutting movies for theaters (which you aren't or you wouldn't be buying your own monitors), then I would go with a quality TN with some more size personally.
I recently bought a 24" BenQ V2400W. I could have had the 22" Dell IPS for $20 less. I would prefer the extra 36,000 pixels of the 24" over the 22" IPS panel. It seems that a lot of people here have the impression that all that matters when it comes to design is color reproduction. Screen real estate is a HUGE factor as well though, and 1680x1050 just isn't quite enough IMO.
So...draw your own conclusions. Unless you are cutting movies for theaters (which you aren't or you wouldn't be buying your own monitors), then I would go with a quality TN with some more size personally.
I agree with your general point, but I want to point out that your V2400W has 540,000 (instead of 36,000) more pixels than the 2209WA.
So you did pro graphics on 6 bit tn panels? hmm...
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Yeah you're right...I totally screwed that up.
Point is that I would rather go with the extra room though.OverDriven
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Did you read my post? I've had access to TN's, IPS and CRT. I've tested all 3 ina design environment, so I think I can make an educated comparison.
You don't have to accept my opinion. I'm just putting it out there. Designing on a TN is not at difficult as many people here indicate. Sure, an IPS is preferable, but if you are on a budget and or need more room than the 2209WA offers, I wouldn't be afraid to use a high quality TN for many design tasks.
Could someone elaborate on this? This has always been confusing to me. I'd like to buy this monitor but I mostly use my computer to watch Blu Ray movies and some gaming.
CyberJunk
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the 2209WA is best used as a computer monitor
not really game consoles
not really game consoles
Yeah, I did, and you were saying that you worked on tn's also. I once used a Viewsonic tn at work and it was horrid. If you don't find it difficult to work on a TN that's just you, it is a subjective preference.
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I was just about the pull the trigger on one of these and the price has gone up to 379!!! Anyone know how to get it for the old price, I think I'll just call and see if someone will honor the old price.
Can anyone explain why this review warns against using the monitor in a dark room (near bottom of page)? That's primarily the kind of environment I game in.
http://www.lcdreviewz.com/review_Dell_2209WA
http://www.lcdreviewz.com/review_Dell_2209WA
What?? You mean $279 I hope.
I just called yesterday and tried to get the old price of $211 or so... I could not.
Dell 3yr warranty?
I don't understand their review. They have some good info, but they harp on a lot of trivial stuff. I can tell you I have no problem using my screen in the dark, and can get the brightness down very low. 130 cdm/2 with 75 contrast, and like 80 cdm/2 at 50 contrast which are both just fine.
Those reviews have me a bit worried. Just how bright is this monitor? Is it possible to achieve some semblance of a good contrast when turning the brightness down to zero, as many reviewers recommend?
How is it in a mostly dim environment? My den has a single 60 watt incandescent light bulb at night.
How is it in a mostly dim environment? My den has a single 60 watt incandescent light bulb at night.
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Yes; but the down side is that you do not get the Dell return policy and the warrantee starts from the manufacture date for nonauthorized dealers. The seller I delt with gave me a two week return window which I did not need.
I do not get the complaints about uneven color or brightness accross the screen. Maybe I was just lucky. As far as brightness level is concerned; it was set to 75% out of the box and that was way too bright, but at 25% it looks about right in a room with other light sources. You may have to go down to zero in a dark room, but it is actually better to work with some ambient light anyways.
One other thing that I am getting sick of is that Dell seems to be obsessed with attaching the VGA cable from the factory. This has been true on every Dell display I have opened. It would be a lot easier to debox with no cables attached. Also you have to attach the stand after you remove it from the box. Lay the panal face down on some carpet and snap the base in before you remove the protective cover on the front.
As stated before the only issue I have with this display is the white glow and you have to look real close (within a foot), to see it.
Best of luck
Dave
That should be ideal. When they warn about using it in a dark room, they are talking about using it with all the lights turned off - which is a short path to eyestrain anyway when you're using any sort of LCD or CRT.
Set brightness to 0, contrast to 74, and use the lagom.nl Sharpness test to check for the proper sharpness setting (which is probably 40, instead of the default setting of 50).
http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1033705844&postcount=379