Hong Kong shops selling new AMD Phenom 955 $280

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Buyers in Hong Kong are posting pictures of their new AMD Phenom 955 CPUs purchased for around $280. Article indicates discounters in USA may price it around $250 to $275, although it could be around $280 to $300 on initial release.

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http://www.techpowerup.com/91417/Phenom_II_X4_955_Inches_Toward_April_20_Launch.html
 
Finally it is coming out. Can't wait to see how well it performs.
 
250 price range sounds more likely.. since they dropped the 940 to 189 dollars on newegg..
 
Lucky guys from Hong Kong. Would be great if it was released now, but we'll be seeing this CPU sometime next week. Hope this CPU is a good performer and overclocker.
 
hmm, looks like the 940 wont see a significant price drop then..

I think ill pick one up today for my GFs new rig, the 940 is barely within budget, and overspending for 200 mhz... meh

Still, its nice to know that in a few months i can pick up a 955 myself and have the fastest machine in the house again ;)
 
Nice if you really want DDR3 support I guess, otherwise the 940 still kicks ass.
 
the 955 will work on am2+ still.. and overall will have better overclocking then the 940.. since the majority of the ES chips have all done 4ghz on air with no issues and within the 1.55v limit.. i think we could see some more phenom II records being broken.. but this is a good sign that the architectures getting better.. id like to see whats up their sleeves with the newer 975/995's that will eventually be released later on this year.. if they were able to bring down the voltage from 1.32v @ 3ghz to 1.25v @ 3.2ghz.. its a good sign that they may be able to drop the voltage even lower with higher clock speeds.. if thats true.. who knows me may even see a 8+ghz overclock on liquid helium in the future.. but thats truely wishful thinking..
 
I don't think new processors won't be coming for a while after the 955 anyways. I was reading some article that IBM and partners (which includes AMD) are getting a jump start on the 28nm process ahead of Intel. We'll probably be seeing new AMD processors in 2010 before Intel. Until then, it looks like that AMD will be pushing the Agena line for a while.
 
AMD had already announced the 990/995 a long time ago as their progressive planning for the phenom II.. so there should be more released over the rest of the year leading up to the bulldozer.. the bulldozer will be the new 32/28 and/or 22nm processing.. which ever they decide to us.. atleast what AMD says.. the 990/995 will be 3.8ghz..im to lazy to find the article but im sure a simple google search would find it if you wanted to know that badly..
 
sirmonkey1985 said:
AMD had already announced the 990/995 a long time ago as their progressive planning for the phenom II.. so there should be more released over the rest of the year leading up to the bulldozer.. the bulldozer will be the new 32/28 and/or 22nm processing.. which ever they decide to us.. atleast what AMD says.. the 990/995 will be 3.8ghz..im to lazy to find the article but im sure a simple google search would find it if you wanted to know that badly..
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Ah touche. 3.8Ghz would be fun to have! :) Afterall we've been stuck under the 3.0Ghz range for so long in Intel and AMD markets regarding mainstream processors.
 
rflcptr said:
Overclocking or not, the 920 is still superior. AMD will need a lower price to compete.
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im not arguing that fact what what amd has over intel especially is that the platforms are so much cheaper along with the backwards compatiblility that the i7 doesnt have.. the sole reason the i7 processor is so cheap is that intel control's 75% of the platform.. the only thing they dont control yet is the memory and even nvidia has to pay them to allow it to have an SLI chipset on an x58 board.. but eventually intels going to have to raise its costs at some point.. its hard to believe that they are actually making a decent profit with the prices they have on their chips currently.. and everyone knows amd will drop their prices.. the i7 started off near 300 bucks and drop significantly after that.. same went with the phenom II 940.. started at 235 and is now down to 189..

the i7 is a nice processor.. but in all honestly even if i had the money to build an entire system for an i7 i still would of went with my 940.. payed 215 for it and took me 2 minutes to take my old processor.. put the 940 in and was already back up and running.. and since all my systems run boinc/F@H id rather have a processor doing 3+ghz at 50C then at 70+C..
 
Sirmonkey, What kind of power usage are you seeing when you OC that 940? I know when they were overclocking the i7 920 they were seeing nearly 200W gobbled up by the processor. I'm also a folder so power efficiency is key. I just bought a x3 720 CPU and the 4x PCIe ASUS mobo to support some GPU folding.
 
some where in the range of 178w (cpu only) w/ my 940 @ 3.5ghz 1.465v.. but thats just using a psu calculator that allows me to show the overclocked wattage but im not sure how correct it is..
 
AmongTheChosenX said:
imagine 4.7 and 5ghz overclocks on average :D
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I remember years ago the first 5ghz cpu was the pentium 4 northwood overclocked with liquid nitrogen lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0jQZxH7NgM&fmt=18

The other guy was right, been stuck in the 3ghz and below for too long since the athlon xp days. I want to go back to ghz ratings again like the thunderbirds in the old days. The ghz number had more weight to it than the xxxx+ names these days. :D
 
I know that there's all these advances to make the same speed processor able to do more

ie Pentium 4 @ 3.0
vs Core @ 3.0
vs Core2 @ 3.0
vs i7 @ 3.0

But I'd really just like to see the companies coming out with faster processors on the frequency too.

I'd rather see i7 being sold, at a stock speed of 6.0 ghz than see an "i8" come out at 3.0 ghz

Mainly from a sales standpoint - I can't tell you how many n00bs think that there's no reason to go from their p4 2.66c to an i7 920 .. because they are both "2.66 ghz"

This is something that all these companies don't understand.. it's that the typical pc user themselves DOESN'T understand why a Phenom II @ 2.4 ghz would completely demolish an X2-4800+, so they don't believe you when you say "It's a completely redesigned architecture that is far more efficient"

They only hear "they are both 2.4 ghz"
 
I'm "in the know" and even I don't know what the hell "Phenom X4 II 955 Black Edition" means without looking it up

I should be able to look at a processor name and now "Oh, that one is faster than that one by X percent"
 
DMoshington said:
I'd rather see i7 being sold, at a stock speed of 6.0 ghz than see an "i8" come out at 3.0 ghz
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Thankfully you aren't an engineer.
Conker said:
I remember years ago the first 5ghz cpu was the pentium 4 northwood overclocked with liquid nitrogen lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0jQZxH7NgM&fmt=18

The other guy was right, been stuck in the 3ghz and below for too long since the athlon xp days. I want to go back to ghz ratings again like the thunderbirds in the old days. The ghz number had more weight to it than the xxxx+ names these days. :D
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Clock comparisons are still completely relevant, as long as they're within identical architectures.
 
DMoshington...

I dunno even know what to say besides "what?"
 
No. I'm someone who sells merchandise that can't possibly sell it self, because the specifications people can actually wrap their heads around make a more expensive product seem inferior.
 
DTN107 said:
DMoshington...

I dunno even know what to say besides "what?"
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When a "laymen" wants to buy a tv, they look at screen size first

this 40" screen is $1000. That 40" screen is $2000

I'll take the $1000 one

They don't care about 120hz refresh, 7 HDMI ports versus 3, and if it's got a 10000:1 contrast ratio versus a 5000:1


When someone buys a processor from me, they ask me what the Gigahertz are

I tell them an i7 920 is $300 and it's 2.66 Ghz and they have an $80 p4d 2.66ghz and they don't see the upgrade value. It takes WAY TOO LONG to explain "Oh, well, this has the i7 architecture and a better memory controller and quad cores and 64 bit and better instructions per clock and .. and ... and ... and ... and...

all they hear is
"they are both 2.66 ghz"

I'm not talking about people like us who are enthusiasts. The COMPUTER BUYING WORLD is driven by people who DON'T KNOW ANYTHING about computers.

Intel and AMD may be great at understanding how to improve performance and engineer their products to make more out of the same frequency, but they know fuckall about marketing to people who don't know anything about their products.

Here's a question.

Which is faster?

BOBCPU 4800+
or
JOECPU 920
 
rflcptr said:
Overclocking or not, the 920 is still superior. AMD will need a lower price to compete.
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that's absolutely untrue, given the fact that most i7 boards are still expensive. and that the i7 is say 20% faster then the Core 2 Duo clock for clock on average, a 600mhz faster phenom 2 would probably be on par, win some and lose some vs an i7 920 @ 2.66ghz, and at a lower price point for the mobo/cpu/ram combo.
 
Digital Viper-X- said:
that's absolutely untrue, given the fact that most i7 boards are still expensive.
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This is a high end platform. I personally think the performance delivered justifies the price. If your interest is gaming only, maybe not, but that's not where I sit.
and that the i7 is say 20% faster then the Core 2 Duo clock for clock on average
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Across a single thread.
a 600mhz faster phenom 2 would probably be on par, win some and lose some vs an i7 920 @ 2.66ghz
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At what? Gaming?
and at a lower price point for the mobo/cpu/ram combo.
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Again, intended usage + performance and features delivered makes this a moot point.
 
rflcptr said:
This is a high end platform. I personally think the performance delivered justifies the price. If your interest is gaming only, maybe not, but that's not where I sit.

Across a single thread.

At what? Gaming?

Again, intended usage + performance and features delivered makes this a moot point.
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Actually no, not at gaming, at pretty much everything. including video / mp3 encoding. Did you bother looking any information up?
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTYyMSw0LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==


how does price vs performance make a point moot? if price is no object, then why are you looking at a phenom II? why not just grab a i7 965 and be done with it.

when you say, the i7 920 is superior to the Phenom II 955, and apply your logic of intended usage + performance / features delivered then you're wrong.
If someone only does divx / tmpeg usage then a phenom II 955 would be a better buy, how does your logic work that one out ^^?

overall a Phenom II @ 3.2ghz is say within 10% of an i7 when it loses, and within 5% when it wins, lets say it wins 50% of the time.

how can you say claim without any valid reasons that an i7 is a better purchase when it costs more to boot?
 
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in the end the choice between the i7 and the phenom II has to do with what you plan to use the system for.. this arguement about what is better then the other is so dang useless.. if you dont need 8 threads then the phenom II is the best bang for the buck.. if you need 8 threads then the i7 is.. dont like it.. then get over it..
 
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+1

I still wonder why people are making LGA 775 builds. The Phenom II are pretty much the high end LGA 775 but slightly cheaper and with future headroom.

If you have mad cash to spend then go for the i7.

Can't go wrong with either platforms as of now.
 
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