Low framerates in WOW with Nvidia Geforce 285

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I previously had a Geforce 8800 GTS which had this same issue.

I however upgraded my card to Geforce 825 but i still get the similar issue.


I noticed when you use windowed mode, your fps will drop a lot. But even when i set it to full screen non windowed mode, FPS sometimes takes a bit dip to 1 FPS !!! especially in dalaran, our outside Naxxramas and elsewhere.

My latency is by the way 200-400 ms which shouldn't explain why my screen is stuttering so bad.

The monitor i am using is HP LP2475W H-IPS 24'' wide gamut screen monitor.

Anybody knows what is going on :eek:
 
Where is it lagging? When I played wow, there'd be sections in Shatt where it'd stop when I came up to a screen full of people, but otherwise my 8800 GTX ran the game fine on max reso. I think the only thing I turned off was shadows because I couldn't notice the difference visually in most cases and it seemed to make it a little smoother....I think I made them simple shadows instead of all the way off.

Highly fragmented game files, little system memory (I had 2 gigs)....

If it's off and on video problems could be lack of power...PSU might be too weak to give the video card the voltages it needs under load.

Anti Virus running in the background hogging up resources...

Lots and lots of possibilities.
 
Wow is really, really processor intensive. A CPU upgrade would be my first recommendation for anyone not happy with their performance in WoW.
 
I use an 8800gtx and never drop below 50 fps.

I'm betting it's your cpu or background programs ruining your experience.
 
As others have said, barring a bad driver install or insufficient PSU I seriously doubt the issue is anything related to your GPU. We need the rest of your specs, though.
 
This happens to me for every game, look at my system in sig...4.02GHz + 2 285s. When you go windowed I have a feeling my cards revert back to 2D clocks and so my games drop around 50-70% performance. Even if I maximize after windowing by pressing alt + enter everythings messed up. In Far Cry 2, my resolution and settings change when I go back to maximizing.

Just don't window?
 
Everybody has FPS issues in the areas you speak of. Google "dalaran FPS lag" and "dalaran issues". This is a problem with the game, not with your setup.
 
Sorry forgot to mention.

CPU: Intel Nehaliem 920

Memory: Corsair Dominator 2gb x 3

Hard drives: western digital 500gb, 750gb, 750gb

NAS: QNAP 509 Pro ( equiped with a 1tb drive )

PSU: Corsair 850 Watt

Router: DLink Dir-655
 
evilsofa said:
Everybody has FPS issues in the areas you speak of. Google "dalaran FPS lag" and "dalaran issues". This is a problem with the game, not with your setup.
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Thx for your reply.

But i also seem to have issues outside of dalaran.


Some very oddball issue where fps can suddenly take a dive even out of dalaran.

For now i set the graphics to medium which sucks cauz this is the best single player graphics card but i can't set to maximum settings :eek:
 
First off your system is CRAP.
yes crap
mail it to me and get a good one :)

latest drivers on the video?
Did you have another card before putting this one in, if so did you clean all prev drivers?
If you are seeing 1fps in dal I cant believe its the game. I have never noticed any slowdown in that town.

that latency is high but still, with that lag I only got some slowdown when I first enter the city. ( someone was watching a movie while I was playing )

can you remove the router and test it?
 
Sounds like you should buy Nvidias new NIC card, thatll help with the lag.
 
Not to be argumentative but I have 0 fps issues in WoW. I'm running Vista x64 on an e8400 and a 9800GTX with 8GB of ram.

That said, take a look at what's running in the background. Can grab procexp and autoruns to clean that up a bit.

Also verify you're not forcing anything in your nvidia control panel. Having set a few things in there and forgotten could be the culprit. If I remember correctly, you could pass -opengl as a parameter to the shortcut which I'd also done at one time. These two things will make a major difference in performance.
 
Sudden FPS drops might be attributed to hardware overheating and throttling, I'd expect bad drivers or insufficient PSU to be problems that always effect a system, rather than just sporadically.

Check temps under full load for the video card and CPU.
 
The people saying its hardware overheating or a bad PSU have obviously never played WOW. The areas you have the FPS dips in are highly populated areas. The FPS drops because WOW has to load thousands of texture files for all of those players and each piece of armor they are wearing.

I run everything maxed about 30-40 FPS when i'm out by myself questing but as soon as i get around one of those areas it drops to 10 or below. Its all cause your HDD is scrambling all over the place to load all of those files, then if you don't have enough RAM to hold them all it will start using the pagefile which will cause it to slow down even more. I wouldn't stress about it too much cause there isn't anything you can do about it.

As a test you could always try signing in around 3AM when no one is on and see if you still have the FPS issues then.
 
Only places I have bad fps is Dalaran when it's first loading and raids with more than 20 people in them.
 
I'm also one of the folks that doesn't have fps issues in dal.

One setting that I've heard helps people is disabling shadows, you can look into scaling back some of the video options as well.
 
WoW frames tank in dalaran, often because of the system having to load all the armor models and textures of the hundreds of people in relatively small area.

Faster HD's often are the best solution to the issue, either a Raid, or raptors, or a SSD.

You have plenty of processor power, and are not lacking in ram, or graphics, so most likely HD times would affect min rates the most :/
 
WoW is more dependent on CPU and FSB than it is video card. You are covered on both ends though so your issue is one of two things, drivers, video or chipset and/or network. You may just not have a good connection. Could be modem, router or ISP issues and this lag may be what you're experiencing. Run a trace route to the server you play on and post the data.
 
Certain add-on mods can kill frame rates fast in WoW. Questhelper is one culprit, Pitbull in a sense, Recount if you have 3+ days of data (dungeons/raids/etc), and a few others.

Cut the mods out first and see where the problem lies.
 
As posted above when troubloe shooting thse types of issues its best to disable all mods, and then re-enable each one, one by one. If you do that and the problem persists, then its a hardware problem. Someone mentioned better disc options, that may be your best bet.
 
If your outside Dalaran and especially if you're in an instance, you should have max FPS all the time.

Some of the possible causes for low frame rates could be AA and AF max with super special AA and AF filters applied.
Slow and fragmented hard drive.
Bad drivers.
Addons.
Weird stuff in your CONFIG.WTF for WoW.
 
Thanks for those that genuinely were trying to help.

Yes what i want to figure out which is the culprit...

Probably hard drives.... and maybe my internet connection ....
 
It's really not your connection.
Having some fast hard drives and fast multichannel memory will really help.
 
I had problems in wow when I had multi-monitor 3d in the nvidia drivers. I set it to single display 3d and it sped up.
 
FWIW I disagree with the people who state it is "just the game". I have a laptop with a 2.0 ghz dual core, 2 gigs of ram and a mere 8600GT, and even I don't suffer too much in Dalaran. There is noticeable load time for everything when I first log into Dalaran, obviously due to the textures loading for all of the players and NPC's, but I am able to move around within a few seconds of the game loading and don't suffer from any abnormally low framerates (just invisible characters for about a min while everything loads). I did however notice a definite improvement when I updated to the latest stable drivers (the new ones from Dell actually cause me to have hard system freezes so I went with ones from laptopvideo2go, not relevant for you but something any other mobile gamer should know!).
 
You are playing on a machine that is almost identical to mine. My first question would be are you on Vista, and if yes, is Aero on? My machine ran fantastic full screen, but I would often play 2 sessions at the same time and would window them in Vista Ultimate x64 with Aero on and they played like crap.

I did some reading up and the first thing I tried was turning Aero off which helped quite a bit, I would say it doubled framerates in locations where it would normally drop. But it still wasn't the performance I expected in those situations. So recently I loaded it up with XP Pro x64 and it just plain runs great now. 50-80fps in both windows even with both guys in Dalaran.

I had been using Vista for quite a while now and actually didn't mind it too much. I am still planning to redo my laptop in Vista Ultimate. But my desktop will stay XP Pro for a while.

Brian
 
Disable ALL your addons. Load WoW.

Does the problem go away? If yes, then you need to take care of the addon causing the problem. If no, then you need to find out the background app causing the problem.

For instance, Questhelper likes to recalculate quest routes (like when you jump on a flightpath) and it can bring your system to a momentary standstill while it does so.

Your problems sound like they are either addon related or spyware related, unless you have a bad piece of hardware. Check your Windows error log and see if anything is reporting errors or warnings when you get the slowdowns, for instance, like your hard drive timing out on the controller and causing pauses. (this will generate errors and they will be listed in your log, very helpful for diagnosing WoW issues.)
 
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