Asus P5E-VM HDMI: best matx ever?

bing said:
great tip!
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I don't see the point of that unless you leave that fan and NOT switch to the 3 pin fan. That's like saying I"m going to open up the window when it's freezing outside but when it gets hot outside again you're screwed.

I think it makes more sense to OC only to the point that is safe and you will not keep altering the equipment (ie: opening up windows).
 
NichoTL said:
What voltages are you running for PLL, FSB and NB?
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vCPU 1.45
vPLL 1.6
vDRAM 2.00
FSB 1.36
NB 1.33
SB 1.2

I've lowered the vCPU now to 1.4375. Left the speed at 3.50GHz.
PLL to 1.64
DRAM 2.1
FSB 1.4
NB 1.35

We'll see if this is stable. If it is, I'll start lowering all except the vCPU for now.
 
vertigomhs said:
number divided by 2? im guessing...
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Hehe. Then you understand what he's saying? Because I don't. Sounds like he's saying to set a number divided by 2 in the BIOS...doesn't make any sense. There's no such setting obviously and I don't feel like solving riddles tonight.
 
what happens when you type n.5 in the multiplier field? maybe it's cpu dependent? works for both my boards -- bios0604 w/ e5200 & e8400.

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yorkman said:
I don't see the point of that unless you leave that fan and NOT switch to the 3 pin fan. That's like saying I"m going to open up the window when it's freezing outside but when it gets hot outside again you're screwed.
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the point is that you need to burn the cpu/mem/fsb to stress test to determine stability, which generates extra heat. but you never get to those temps under normal usage.

so, yes, you can open the window and let the freezing air in during the bench testing to keep things cool,,,, but close up the house and turn on the heater if you're just using the pc normally @ the same speeds/voltages. (normal usage for me is playing ut2k3 or grid, recording a show or two in 1080i w/ mce, encoding a dvr-ms file to h.264, browsing w/ firefox, using picasa.... i see max coretemp of 55C. when i run ibt i see 73C.)

to use your analogy, unless i'm stress testing summer is welcome to come sooner than later. :)
 
yorkman said:
Hehe. Then you understand what he's saying? Because I don't. Sounds like he's saying to set a number divided by 2 in the BIOS...doesn't make any sense. There's no such setting obviously and I don't feel like solving riddles tonight.
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Don't worry about it: just type the multiplier 08.5 instead of using + or -.
 
I'm not sure if our bios has the n/2 option (my bios does it directly by the cpu multiplier field. Look at the first bios screenshow available HERE for a different board. N/2 just adds "0.5" to whatever you have your multiplier set to. I'm not sure why they call it that because yes, by the name you would think 1/2, but it's only 0.5. Most BIOS' call it "N/2 Ratio" or similar.
 
NichoTL said:
Don't worry about it: just type the multiplier 08.5 instead of using + or -.
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Yes, it allows you to TYPE the number instead as an alternative, but it still does not accept halves.

My multiplier is set at 9x. If I type 8.5 it still shows 9x so decimals are not accepted. Is everyone else able to type it in theirs? Bios 0604 here, Q6600.
 
bing said:
what happens when you type n.5 in the multiplier field? maybe it's cpu dependent? works for both my boards -- bios0604 w/ e5200 & e8400.

8.5*466
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I guess it's cpu dependent then. I can type whatever I want but it doesn't accept decimals.
 
I was wondering if anyone has the Thermalrite HR-05 SLI version, and if it fits angled away from the cpu cooler.
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I searched and found plenty of people with the stadnard HR-05 but i am thinking of getting the SLI angled bottom one...I have the new thermalrite AXP-140 cooler and it's edge goes right over the Northbridge cooler..Here is a top down view of it. I was hoping that it would fit..also, what are people cooling the southbrige with, that you can sneak under the gtx 200 series cards?
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btw...this was a mock setup..for dimensions etc before i actually installed it
 
The fan on a cpu cooler (OCZ Vendetta 2 in my case), is it better to exhaust the HS heat or to intake air? I have a vertical tower so the fan is mounted on the HS horizontally and is facing the bottom of the case and blowing the hot air out from the HS and out the back of my case through a number of pre-drilled holes.
 
treefortrichard said:
I was wondering if anyone has the Thermalrite HR-05 SLI version, and if it fits angled away from the cpu cooler.
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The instructions for every heatpipe cooler I've seen suggest mounting such that the heatpipe tips are higher than the base.
That said, the heatpipes are flexible, and will bend with care and you can mount it with a 45 degree angle rather than 90.




How are the open box versions of this board at newegg, btw?
 
yorkman said:
The fan on a cpu cooler (OCZ Vendetta 2 in my case), is it better to exhaust the HS heat or to intake air? I have a vertical tower so the fan is mounted on the HS horizontally and is facing the bottom of the case and blowing the hot air out from the HS and out the back of my case through a number of pre-drilled holes.
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Can you post a pic? I'm having trouble picturing your setup.
 
treefortrichard said:
I was wondering if anyone has the Thermalrite HR-05 SLI version, and if it fits angled away from the cpu cooler.
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Are you going to have a fan on your AXP-140 and if yes will it blowing downwards? In that case there will be a lot of airflow over your NB, thereby reducing somewhat the need for replacing the NB cooler.
 
NichoTL said:
Are you going to have a fan on your AXP-140 and if yes will it blowing downwards? In that case there will be a lot of airflow over your NB, thereby reducing somewhat the need for replacing the NB cooler.
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yeah, i do, i have a 120mm now (this is a pic with the 140, but the 120 yields 12c lower temps under load..it's a clearance thing discussed in this thread)
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I am reading tems of 50-52c under load on the surface of the Nbridge cooler with a probe. This is w/ no overclocking...The thing just feels so damn hot..I guess i can see how it goes for now. There is a decent amount of air flow across the northbridge cooler.





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treefortrichard said:
yeah, i do, i have a 120mm now (this is a pic with the 140, but the 120 yields 12c lower temps under load..it's a clearance thing discussed in this thread)

I am reading tems of 50-52c under load on the surface of the Nbridge cooler with a probe. This is w/ no overclocking...The thing just feels so damn hot..I guess i can see how it goes for now. There is a decent amount of air flow across the northbridge cooler.
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From the pic it looks like it's blowing upwards. But with the PSU just above it, I guess the other way round won't work.
 
NichoTL said:
From the pic it looks like it's blowing upwards. But with the PSU just above it, I guess the other way round won't work.
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oh, yeah, that pic does actually show the fan blowing up :p That was just when i threw it together to measure..The real fan points down...I have a fan controller. I think i might try shutting the cpu fan off and run it on ambient and then take some temp readings on the n.bridge to compare the diff.
 
treefortrichard said:
...I think i might try shutting the cpu fan off and run it on ambient and then take some temp readings on the n.bridge to compare the diff.
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when you do, could you plz check if CPUTIN in HWMonitor corresponds to the NB temps? :p

also, post up more pics if you have them, i like that the gpu and monster hs hang so far over the edge of the m/b, pretty funny. :cool:
 
Ruiner said:
How are the open box versions of this board at newegg, btw?
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good question, i've always shied away from open-box m/b's because i was worried that they'd leave out the shield and then i'd have to go find one. can't think of anything else you'd be missing except for an adapter: [vga<>hdmi] or something? i'll buy most anything else oem, but open-box is a little different.
 
bing said:
when you do, could you plz check if CPUTIN in HWMonitor corresponds to the NB temps? :p

also, post up more pics if you have them, i like that the gpu and monster hs hang so far over the edge of the m/b, pretty funny. :cool:
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I'm telling you: the CPUTIN is NOT the NB: if you run Asus PC Probe 2, It clearly references 2 temperatures: CPU and MB. No Northbridge. If there is one group of people who really know, it's clearly Asus.
 
NichoTL said:
I'm telling you: the CPUTIN is NOT the NB: if you run Asus PC Probe 2, It clearly references 2 temperatures: CPU and MB. No Northbridge. If there is one group of people who really know, it's clearly Asus.
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:( well, ok. i'm sure asus would KNOW, but whether or not the app is right is another question. but, i think the fact that you guys running the quads have a CPUTIN that's similar to your cores, whereas me running a c2d, the CPUTIN is much higher than the cores, makes sense with what you're saying too. i wonder if others running c2d's are like me in that the CPUTIN is 5-10C higher than the cores?

i tried to install pc probe 2 at least once, maybe twice, and it was either really buggy or outright broken. it may have just been that it didn't work right with my big dpi fonts. (i run a 24" lcd @ 1920x1200, farther than average away from my eye line, as i also use it for tv/video.) anyway, i've found that problem in a number of programs from asus and gigabyte and msi.

anyway, thx.
 
bing said:
:( well, ok. i'm sure asus would KNOW, but whether or not the app is right is another question. but, i think the fact that you guys running the quads have a CPUTIN that's similar to your cores, whereas me running a c2d, the CPUTIN is much higher than the cores, makes sense with what you're saying too. i wonder if others running c2d's are like me in that the CPUTIN is 5-10C higher than the cores?

i tried to install pc probe 2 at least once, maybe twice, and it was either really buggy or outright broken. it may have just been that it didn't work right with my big dpi fonts. (i run a 24" lcd @ 1920x1200, farther than average away from my eye line, as i also use it for tv/video.) anyway, i've found that problem in a number of programs from asus and gigabyte and msi.

anyway, thx.
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Like you I'm running a Duo with temps for cores and CPUTIN very similar.
For PC Probe, I downloaded it from the Asus website. Never used the CD version. I don't really use it though. One thing is quite strange though. HWMonitor never seems to pick up my chassis fan speed after a fresh install of Vista. But if I start PC Probe once and then never use it after, HWMonitor starts showing the chassis fan speed... go figure.
I also use a 24" 1920*1200, but I sit very close to it, so my fonts are standrard. It might be the reason you mention.
 
NichoTL said:
Like you I'm running a Duo with temps for cores and CPUTIN very similar.
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oh, that is weird then. :confused:

NichoTL said:
For PC Probe, I downloaded it from the Asus website. Never used the CD version. I don't really use it though. One thing is quite strange though. HWMonitor never seems to pick up my chassis fan speed after a fresh install of Vista. But if I start PC Probe once and then never use it after, HWMonitor starts showing the chassis fan speed... go figure.
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you just solved this issue for me, thx! i did exactly what you wrote, and now HWMon shows AUXFANIN0. (i had seen some screenshot showing that third fan and i was confused as to why i didn't have it.)

NichoTL said:
I also use a 24" 1920*1200, but I sit very close to it, so my fonts are standrard. It might be the reason you mention.
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the latest version from 12/23 looks fine, and runs fine. i seem to remember it was more than just a font dpi issue, now that i've seen it running.
 
Just wanted to say a big thank you to NichoTL and bing, especially NichoTL, for helping me OC my Q6600 from 3 GHz to 3.6 GHz! I couldn't have done it without you guys! My apologies if I forgot anyone else.

The OCZ Vendetta 2 made all the difference too! I'm able to run stable at vCPU 1.45V (I tried the next lower one but prime95 failed after 16 hours). The Blue Orb II I had is being put to use on my kid's pc now where another Q6600 is OC'd to 2.88GHz (motherboard limitation).

My temps in SpeedFan are now:

System: 41C
CPU: 54C (still not sure what temp. this actually corresponds to)
Max. on cores: 61C @ 20.5C ambient

These temps are even better than when I was using the Blue Orb II @ 3GHz so I'm very happy with 61C @ 3.6GHz.
 
NichoTL said:
Can you post a pic? I'm having trouble picturing your setup.
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Using post #1378 as reference, my HS fan (Scythe 2K RPM) is mounted under the HS instead of over like in this pic. So it's blowing air out of the HS and down to the bottom of the case. A front fan picks up air and the rear fan blows everything out.

Is that OK or is that less efficient than putting the HS on top (I'd have to flip my Vendetta2 the other way around to be able to put the fan on top so it's unlikely I'll feel like changing it anytime soon). Or should I simply change the fan to blow air into the HS instead instead of out? You can read my previous post on the temps I'm getting with my current setup (fan on bottom and blowing out).
 
Anyone tried the Auzentech X-Fi Forte on this mobo? Im planning to purchase next month but Im afraid it won't fit on PCI-e due to spaces on rams :( Other solution would be put on the second PCI-e but im using ATI4850 + Accelero S1 with 2 x 92mm noctua fans.
 
yorkman said:
Using post #1378 as reference, my HS fan (Scythe 2K RPM) is mounted under the HS instead of over like in this pic. So it's blowing air out of the HS and down to the bottom of the case. A front fan picks up air and the rear fan blows everything out.

Is that OK or is that less efficient than putting the HS on top (I'd have to flip my Vendetta2 the other way around to be able to put the fan on top so it's unlikely I'll feel like changing it anytime soon). Or should I simply change the fan to blow air into the HS instead instead of out? You can read my previous post on the temps I'm getting with my current setup (fan on bottom and blowing out).
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I think the temp you posted are really good, and I'd be tempted to say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But I assume you have a case fan at the back of the case just behind your CPU (standard ATX layout) (with the case standing for normal operations), so I'd say the 'best' way to go about it would probably be by putting the Scythe in front of the HS pushing air IN (and then the case fan 'pulls' it out of the case). Most ATX/mATX cases are made for a front to back air path. That being said, I'm not sure it will make much difference if any (I also assume intake fans are at the front of the case).
 
i find it interesting that my 2x2GB G.SKILL F2-8500CL5D 5 5 5 15 ram is running perfectly @ 1.8 volts..Is this unusual? I read that the ram needs a little more voltage on this mobo, however i tested it and it passed...Is it possible it is getting more voltage and i missed something?
 
NichoTL said:
I think the temp you posted are really good, and I'd be tempted to say: if it ain't broke, don't fix it. But I assume you have a case fan at the back of the case just behind your CPU (standard ATX layout) (with the case standing for normal operations), so I'd say the 'best' way to go about it would probably be by putting the Scythe in front of the HS pushing air IN (and then the case fan 'pulls' it out of the case). Most ATX/mATX cases are made for a front to back air path. That being said, I'm not sure it will make much difference if any (I also assume intake fans are at the front of the case).
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Ok, we're on par with that then. Like you said, if it ain't broke don't fix it and that's what I'm doing.

Yes, I have a case fan at the front (blowing air in) and back (blowing air out) and the Scythe fan mounted under the HS (in my vertical tower it's under the HS and it's hopefully taking out the heat from the HS and out to the bottom of the case where the front and back fans will draw it out.

I still haven't tweaked the voltages and my ram is still 5-5-5-15 so I'll try bringing down the ram to 5-4-4-15 timings (its rated speed) and see if it lasts a day.

On a side note. Some friendly piece of advice!

Do NOT buy the OCZ 800EXS model PSU! Mine just died again this weekend. It's the 4th or 5th one now in the last 6 months!! No joke! Even before I started OC'ing my system I've had this problem. Checking the OCZ forums and newegg comments, everyone else is having the exact same issues and symptoms as me. And all OCZ does is send you a replacement which works for another month before it dies. Absolutely ridiculous! Apparently, OCZ has a revision of it now after all the complaints. We'll see about that. I've requested that they send me anything but this model as I'm tired of replacing it every month.

Take my advice and buy something else...and to be on the safe side, stay away from OCZ PSU's completely. They're tempting because of their prices and rebates but next time I think I'll spend a little more to have something reliable.
 
treefortrichard said:
i find it interesting that my 2x2GB G.SKILL F2-8500CL5D 5 5 5 15 ram is running perfectly @ 1.8 volts..Is this unusual? I read that the ram needs a little more voltage on this mobo, however i tested it and it passed...Is it possible it is getting more voltage and i missed something?
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5-5-5-15 1066MHz @1.8V?
That's really good I'd say. I've heard somewhere else that this mobo overvolts RAM, i.e. 1.8V would in reality be 1.9V or something. Still those are good numbers. It might also mean there is room for more O/C...
 
my P5E-VM is being a pain

got my Q6600 in it now and i cant get it to pass prime 95 even at 2.7Ghz!! crashes and BSOD's

this Q6600 was doing 3.3 in my P5Q-E at 1.34, messing with manually settings things didnt seem to help either and cpuz 1.49 or 1.5 when i start P95 the CPU voltage field drops to 1.9 and doesnt move...
 
Is Asus retarded?

go to their site download the realtek audio drivers for the board THEY suggest for VIsta 64 and then told that the OS is not supported? WTF!!!
 
Is this still the best board for m-atx and overclocking? Tired of my full atx system and want to go to a smaller form factor...


Ply
 
plywood99 said:
Is this still the best board for m-atx and overclocking? Tired of my full atx system and want to go to a smaller form factor...

Ply
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One of the best mATX just to be safe :) I think DFI is still superior over Asus although I haven't owned that mobo. My E8400 can run 4Ghz on 1.296v without any issues, of course stable on 18hours stable on Prine95 and 2hrs on OCCT latest version :)

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Battlestar said:
One of the best mATX just to be safe :)
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What RAM are you running? Also, can you please repost a larger screenshot? I can't make out some of the items in the one you posted. (I like to use IrfanView, and when I resize the pic I choose "Apply Sharpen after Resample" option.)
 
plywood99 said:
Is this still the best board for m-atx and overclocking? Tired of my full atx system and want to go to a smaller form factor...


Ply
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the p5e is good for quads and duals while the dfi lp jr p45 is good for duals, depends on what you need really.
 
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