Far Cry 2...what a let down...

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FC2 = GTA: Jungle City or GTA: San Africa

Whatever happened to the great single play game... "Survival of the fittest"...anyone?

I played the game for 30 min...hoping it would get better but not a chance...it only got worse. And best part in about 30 min of game play i was already 22% done with the game lol

$50 down the drain.




I know i am little late but better late then never...i just had to get this off of my chest...Thank you for reading.
 
GJohn said:
FC2 = GTA: Jungle City or GTA: San Africa

Whatever happened to the great single play game... "Survival of the fittest"...anyone?

I played the game for 30 min...hoping it would get better but not a chance...it only got worse. And best part in about 30 min of game play i was already 22% done with the game lol

$50 down the drain.




I know i am little late but better late then never...i just had to get this off of my chest...Thank you for reading.
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I've been playing the game for maybe a few weeks. I'm about 13% done, and that's after a few 5-6 hour gaming sessions. There is no way you are 22% done after 30 min.
 
FC2 is not a bad game, it just is not a really good one. That and the fact that most people who buy a sequel expect it to at least bear some resemblance to the original has left many some what unhappy with it. IMHO, it would have been far better received and less maligned if it did not bear the Far Cry name.
Had they brought Jack and/or Val back for a prequel or sequel, with a story line and game play that had more continuity with the original, I, for one, would have liked a game like that a lot better.
 
It sounds kind of like FC1 in that most people will probably never finish it because it becomes so unfun to play. FC1's difficulty shits itself inside out toward the end and FC2 becomes so boring and repetitive than even an Amish would find it stodgy.
 
spydermonkey said:
I've been playing the game for maybe a few weeks. I'm about 13% done, and that's after a few 5-6 hour gaming sessions. There is no way you are 22% done after 30 min.
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If he went ahead and did main missions instead of doing the side missions thats possible.
 
I thought most people finished FC1. I did. I was a bit hard at the end (last two maps) but not impossible. At least it wasn't the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over like FC2. I think FC2 tried to pattern itself after an RPG but unfortunately the map was static and simplisitic. They fail to realize that what makes an RPG fun is the discovery of new items AND areas.

krameriffic said:
It sounds kind of like FC1 in that most people will probably never finish it because it becomes so unfun to play. FC1's difficulty shits itself inside out toward the end and FC2 becomes so boring and repetitive than even an Amish would find it stodgy.
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I couldn't bring myself to play it. Driving around for diamonds and buying weapons just does not appeal to me, and the firefights felt like a step down from Crysis Warhead which I had played just before.

A waste of $50, agreed. Shame on me for not reading reviews.
 
you2 said:
They fail to realize that what makes an RPG fun is the discovery of new items AND areas.
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*Ahem* Don't forget the storyline with its choices and consequences. That's a big part of RPG's, in my opinion.

I am not particularly impressed with FC2 myself. It's fun for what it is, but it is not worth the price tag. When it becomes a bargain bin item for 15 bucks, then it'd be something to pick up. Thankfully, FC2 came with my new GTX 280 that I bought in December, so I didn't pay a dime for it.
 
GJohn said:
FC2 = GTA: Jungle City or GTA: San Africa

Whatever happened to the great single play game... "Survival of the fittest"...anyone?

I played the game for 30 min...hoping it would get better but not a chance...it only got worse. And best part in about 30 min of game play i was already 22% done with the game lol

$50 down the drain.
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If FC2 = GTA Jungle City ... it would at least be fun to play. FC2 has no direction, a poor storyline and confusing game play. If they would of bundled FO3 style storyline/quest in with FC2 then it would of been a hell of a lot better game. At least FO not everyone is my enemy.
 
you2 said:
I thought most people finished FC1. I did. I was a bit hard at the end (last two maps) but not impossible. At least it wasn't the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over like FC2. I think FC2 tried to pattern itself after an RPG but unfortunately the map was static and simplisitic. They fail to realize that what makes an RPG fun is the discovery of new items AND areas.
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And not having everything you do literally count for nothing. Wreaking immense destruction and killing bad guys left and right and having it all quickly respawn ad infinitum just makes it completely worthless and pointless. You can't really and truly destroy or kill anything in this game.

I still don't understand how anyone can like something like that or consider that a positive feature in any game.

What I do like in FC2 is the gunplay is excellent and yes, it looks and sounds incredible. Again, it's a really nice tech demo.

Lumps and all near the end, I still view the first Far Cry as an overall better game.
 
bigdogchris said:
At least FO not everyone is my enemy.
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Totally agree.

The old 'player versus everyone' mentality is an archaic gameplay mechanic and has no place in modern games.

FarcCry2 goes one step further to make this even worse by making the enemies INSTANTLY identify you from a mile away as hostile. I think it was the 5th or 6th jeep that came driving down the road already firing at me through the jungle leaves that made me quit and uninstall.

I couldn't tell you how many percent through I was, I just utterly didn't care.
 
spine said:
Totally agree.

The old 'player versus everyone' mentality is an archaic gameplay mechanic and has no place in modern games.

FarcCry2 goes one step further to make this even worse by making the enemies INSTANTLY identify you from a mile away as hostile. I think it was the 5th or 6th jeep that came driving down the road already firing at me through the jungle leaves that made me quit and uninstall.

I couldn't tell you how many percent through I was, I just utterly didn't care.
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Correct.

There's no stealth in this game and there's no point to even attempting it no matter what gear you have, what you buy, and how smart you try to be. It simply doesn't matter, like so much else in this tech demo.
 
I played it for about 10 hours and am about 2% done. I have been driving all over the place unlocking the safe houses and finding briefcases.
I do enjoy it, but I am glad that I didn't pay for my copy.
 
Zepher said:
I played it for about 10 hours and am about 2% done. I have been driving all over the place unlocking the safe houses and finding briefcases.
I do enjoy it, but I am glad that I didn't pay for my copy.
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Certainly an overwhelming sentiment I see out there even from people that like the game for the most part like you do.

Now that some time has gone by I wonder if the honeymoon glaze afterglow has finally worn off from the pretty graphics and audio for some of these people that were giving this game 9's and 10's and declaring it one of the best FPS's of all time or the best outright?
 
Some games are just over-hyped.
Last year I bought Stalker since it was on sale and everyone was raving about it. I also bought Blacksite : Area51 at the same time since I had to pay shipping for the order and getting 2 games evened out the shipping costs.
I had never heard of Blacksite before, installed it, and played it all the way through. the controls and aiming were perfect, story was good, and it was just a lot of fun.
Stalker on the other hand was uninstalled after playing it twice for about an hour each time. I didn't like the controls and aiming dynamics.
 
anss123 said:
I couldn't bring myself to play it. Driving around for diamonds and buying weapons just does not appeal to me, and the firefights felt like a step down from Crysis Warhead which I had played just before.

A waste of $50, agreed. Shame on me for not reading reviews.
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At least in FC2 you can get killed. Crysis is a pathetic challenge.
 
Zepher said:
Stalker on the other hand was uninstalled after playing it twice for about an hour each time. I didn't like the controls and aiming dynamics.
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Did the exact same thing; bought stalker last year 'cos it was cheap and then just uninstalled it after a few hours of play. The controls just feel off, and the game dynamics seem awkward. Graphics seemed horrible looking as well. An utterly un-appealing game for me, I've no idea why it got such rave reviews.
 
The thing that kills me about Far Cry 2 is the AI respawn. Why, why, why can't i just clear out enemy checkpoints with out walking back two minutes later to see that they have been repopulated. Even if it was a 24 hour thing I would be less annoyed with the game.

I think the developers missed out on a chance to make the player feel that they have some affect on the game world. Instead, it just seems meaningless to go any farther in the game.
 
spine said:
Did the exact same thing; bought stalker last year 'cos it was cheap and then just uninstalled it after a few hours of play. The controls just feel off, and the game dynamics seem awkward. Graphics seemed horrible looking as well. An utterly un-appealing game for me, I've no idea why it got such rave reviews.
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Viral marketing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_marketing

Always take note of negative critisism and play demos.
 
VorpalBFG said:
At least in FC2 you can get killed. Crysis is a pathetic challenge.
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There is a cheat that allow you to alter the suits recharge, drain and other characteristics. It can be used to increase difficulty as well. Use it to halve your suits available power, increase the recharge delay by 50%, and double recharge time. On the hardest difficulty level this will prove effective at making the game nearly impossible.
 
GORANKAR said:
There is a cheat that allow you to alter the suits recharge, drain and other characteristics. It can be used to increase difficulty as well. Use it to halve your suits available power, increase the recharge delay by 50%, and double recharge time. On the hardest difficulty level this will prove effective at making the game nearly impossible.
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That's for damned sure.


In any event, Crysis and Crysis Warhead both are much better games than Far Cry 2 in just about every regard I can think of.
 
FC2 was indicative of 2008's crop of games. Lots of hype that wasn't deserved. From my perspective, Dead Space was the only big time game that lived up to its pre-release publicity.
 
Mr. Wolf said:
FC2 was indicative of 2008's crop of games. Lots of hype that wasn't deserved. From my perspective, Dead Space was the only big time game that lived up to its pre-release publicity.
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Dead Space and Fallout 3 for me although FO3 is riddled with CTD and freeze bugs for lots of folks including myself.
 
GORANKAR said:
There is a cheat that allow you to alter the suits recharge, drain and other characteristics. It can be used to increase difficulty as well. Use it to halve your suits available power, increase the recharge delay by 50%, and double recharge time. On the hardest difficulty level this will prove effective at making the game nearly impossible.
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Know where I can get this cheat? I think it would make the game interesting again.
 
Q-BZ said:
What I do like in FC2 is the gunplay is excellent and yes, it looks and sounds incredible. Again, it's a really nice tech demo.
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I thought the gunplay and sounds were pretty terrible. The assault rifles are some of the worst weapons I've ever had to use and listen to. Only way I could stomach playing at all was sticking to sniper rifles as they didn't sound nearly as bad and enemies don't shrug them off like bug bites from the assault rifles. Throw in terrible mouse acceleration you can't disable and mouse lag on top of that and its pretty damn awful.
 
Well I'm still enjoying it, after finally getting it to run full-screen on a new machine. Which makes this my 3rd run through it. Even Yahtzee had some positive things to say about it. The FC2 haters must have been terribly disappointed by that.

The fact that FC2 is a FPS doesn't mean it has to play the same as every other FPS, or that it's a shit game just because it doesn't follow the unwritten rules of FPS design as set forth by the self-styled hardcore FPS crowd. And no, I don't think FC2 is perfect. Far from it. And it was massively over-hyped. But I've had a lot of fun playing it, much more than I had with the likes of Crysis, or especially the pathetic Warhead, or the proper let-down that was Bioshock, or even CoD4 which I liked a lot.

And as for the OP, did any of this actually come as a surprise, after 3 months of the game being trashed in forums like this?
 
GJohn turning up fashionably late to the party here.

With any other game I'd say "play for more than 30 minutes, that's not nearly enough to judge a game" but with FarCry2 it definitely is. It's too much, if anything. If we ever discover time travel I'm going to meet my past self just as he's about to click the "confirm order" button and kick him in the bollocks. And then I'd shit in his hair.

Also, I'm not really sure what's been said because I haven't followed the thread and am a little sleep-deprived, but I get the impression that someone's said something negative about S.T.A.L.K.E.R., in which case I'm killing your children.

Oh, I see it now. That's stupid. People didn't like the stalker games because they had issues on some systems. I had some myself, but I didn't get wrapped up in that, and enjoyed the games because they were fucking great. Crysis ran perfectly and I had to force myself to complete it. Bugs are a consequence of human error, whereas crap games are a consequence of shitty decisions and game direction. One's forgivable. Guess which.
 
Stalker is an amazing game. It had me engrossed for over a year.

As for Far Cry 2, it pretty much blows with all the driving and pointless locations moving around. The only good part about the game is when the second map opens up. That shocked me. I didn't expect the game world to double in size like that with new major towns.
 
Spare-Flair said:
Stalker is an amazing game. It had me engrossed for over a year.
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Stalker is still an underappreciated masterpiece. Post patches and with Float32 and some other mods...this game keeps drawing me back.

Far Cry 2 can't tie its shoes.

As for Far Cry 2, it pretty much blows with all the driving and pointless locations moving around. The only good part about the game is when the second map opens up. That shocked me. I didn't expect the game world to double in size like that with new major towns.
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I bolded the key word in your phrase which goes right along with what I wrote earlier in the thread. Everything you do in this game is pointless since people, places, trees, grass, everything respawns quickly and into eternity. There's no incentive to do anything in the game.

To use another forumer's word from earlier, yes, I think that's shit regardless of genre and I hope to never see the likes of it again in any game.
 
I go back to games every few months. I went back to Far Cry 2 last month after hating it for months. When I opened up the new area, it felt slightly more fresh and I didn't mind as much. I also used a trainer which makes you run/drive incredibly fast and also makes the enemies non-hostile to you/invisible so you can just walk/drive through the checkpoints without them attacking you. It made the game bearable.

I also went back to Stalker and remembered why this game is utterly amazing and so much better than anything else on my computer, Fallout 3 can't even compare. I have the Oblivion Lost mod and the game is so unpredictable/scary/random/challenging, etc. with real choices to make and strange things everywhere (after a blowout, I was walking to the area exit and bumped into a group of 12 zombies controlled by a controller while I had anomalies and dizzyness buzzing in my head- that was hard! I had to RPG them in the end).
 
GJohn said:
FC2 = GTA: Jungle City or GTA: San Africa

Whatever happened to the great single play game... "Survival of the fittest"...anyone?

I played the game for 30 min...hoping it would get better but not a chance...it only got worse. And best part in about 30 min of game play i was already 22% done with the game lol

$50 down the drain.




I know i am little late but better late then never...i just had to get this off of my chest...Thank you for reading.
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I feel for you buddy. I also lost $50 on this turd. Stinky turds like FC2 are the reason why I wait a few weeks and reviews before buying a game. Its just too expensive to keep buying crap only to play it for 2 hours and uninstall.
 
fdiaz78 said:
I feel for you buddy. I also lost $50 on this turd. Stinky turds like FC2 are the reason why I wait a few weeks and reviews before buying a game. Its just too expensive to keep buying crap only to play it for 2 hours and uninstall.
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I waited and i read all the reviews, but for some frikkin reason i thought my self..."umm...how bad could it be, after all it carries the name far cry."

The reason i made this thread because i was so pissed at this game it wasn't even funny. I never ever had this happen to me before, i played lots of games over the year and nothing was as horrible as FC2...i cannot imagine how a game with cars, guns and big nice world would suck so badly.

How did they do it? i mean seriously... you got cool cars, you got cool guns, a nice world and bunch of enemies..that sounds pretty damn fun game...but not.



Finally today I played TF2, BF2, Stalker, GTA4, FC3, and L4D to help me get over FC2
 
Those people looking for the sequel to Far Cry should have known that the real sequel was Crysis.

Far Cry 2 was just a bought and sold for brand name.
 
GJohn said:
How did they do it? i mean seriously... you got cool cars, you got cool guns, a nice world and bunch of enemies..that sounds pretty damn fun game...but not.
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It's staggering isn't it?

Seems to be that the game was lead by an amateur designer who had no real understanding of game design;

They clearly focused on graphics and the ability to have huge open areas that you can drive for across for ages. They then made the game around this to force you to always be driving across it to appreciate it all. They never stepped back to realise that they've stopped making a game and started making a tech demo.
 
I wasn't so angry at Far Cry 2 until the end. I was able to tolerate the game because at least there were lots of ways to wreak havok.

Wally said:
Also, I'm not really sure what's been said because I haven't followed the thread and am a little sleep-deprived, but I get the impression that someone's said something negative about S.T.A.L.K.E.R., in which case I'm killing your children.

Oh, I see it now. That's stupid. People didn't like the stalker games because they had issues on some systems. I had some myself, but I didn't get wrapped up in that, and enjoyed the games because they were fucking great. Crysis ran perfectly and I had to force myself to complete it. Bugs are a consequence of human error, whereas crap games are a consequence of shitty decisions and game direction. One's forgivable. Guess which.
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"Issues" is a mild understatement in my case to the point of making the game unfinishable. I think the kicker is when the patches released kill your previous saves. Stability issues aside, I still feel like STALKER had lots of brilliance but hopelessly marred by bugs and wonky ballistics.
 
Chombo said:
I wasn't so angry at Far Cry 2 until the end. I was able to tolerate the game because at least there were lots of ways to wreak havok.



"Issues" is a mild understatement in my case to the point of making the game unfinishable. I think the kicker is when the patches released kill your previous saves. Stability issues aside, I still feel like STALKER had lots of brilliance but hopelessly marred by bugs and wonky ballistics.
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As a hardcore fan and ultimate defender of Stalker and all it's brilliance, yes it was broken at first. It is a bit like that eratic genius that was mentally disturbed and needed some medical treatment before you could figure him out. The game was in a bad condition when released and that's understandable. The company that made the game only had like 32 employees or something. It was a very small company. The problem was that a lot of the bugs never got fixed patch after patch until about a year after release when it absolutely blossomed in addition to the large fanbase and modding community exploding for it and making the total overhauls like Oblivion Lost to restore all the original content that was locked off because of the release rush.

It took me 2 weeks of steady modding with about 50 different individual mods and my own tweaks and editing code and writing my own scripts here and there to get the game to the state where I am deleriously happy with it.

But many people can just download the latest Oblivion Lost and a few of the eye candy mods like Float32 and the sky/weather ones and enjoy the game just as much. It seems many people complain about the guns feeling/shooting wrong. Well they just didn't have patience or understand the RPG aspects of the game. You start off a sick and battered guy who just awoke from a coma and who knows what injuries. You have no skills, you aren't very adept. Your aim is terrible and you also can't hit anything because you have nothing to your name except the clothes on your back and all the weapons you can salvage are old and rusty and shoot absolutely unreliably. It takes time to train weapons skill and to scrounge and scavange whatever junk you can to slowly make a few rubbles here and there to afford decent weapons and gear. I loved that feeling of being a bum starting out with nothing and being able to scavange whatever you needed out of the wastes. Of course it's supposed to be incredibly hard. Imagine if you were dumped in the middle of a radioactive zone with nothing to your name and zero survival skills. You just need to improvise and go slowly and realize that you can die any second.

Far Cry 2 created an amazing and intensely beautiful world but it was like they made the world and then had no idea how to populate it or make it interesting. So they just dumped in respawning enemies at certain points and decided to make you drive in circles. Basically, it's as if it were GTA, except every couple intersections and highway onramps were staffed with hostile terrorists who shoot on sight and respawn everytime you drive a few blocks and come back.
 
Chombo said:
I wasn't so angry at Far Cry 2 until the end. I was able to tolerate the game because at least there were lots of ways to wreak havok.



"Issues" is a mild understatement in my case to the point of making the game unfinishable. I think the kicker is when the patches released kill your previous saves. Stability issues aside, I still feel like STALKER had lots of brilliance but hopelessly marred by bugs and wonky ballistics.
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Some people got unlucky, it seems. The only problem I had was with Clear Sky: patch erased my save game. I wasn't too bothered though, because the game was fun enough to start again.
 
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