w1retap
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I'd take habeas corpus away from terrorists any day of the week over socializing my health care.
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I'd take habeas corpus away from terrorists any day of the week over socializing my health care.
I'd take habeas corpus away from terrorists any day of the week over socializing my health care.
lololol then maybe you should sue the bastards that are sueing the doctors.I'm sorry but we need affordable health care in this country not fast internet.
I dare say I've never seen such a blatantly ridiculous statement. Saying that nationalized health care has offered "terrific results" in every nation it's been implemented in is pretty much akin to saying the Earth is flat.National healthcare is a model with terrific results in every nation it has ever been implemented in.
Such a wildly uninformed view of the problems (plural) facing U.S. health care. You'd rather try to fix the issues by subverting them (or at least attempting to) with a nationalized health care initiative, rather than tackling the problems directly? Why?Its only obstacle is us, the US, paying top dollar to doctor hacks and filtering all the zealous for-profit doctors into our nation.
I've yet to see anyone attempt to argue for nationalized health care by leveraging the fact that the various police forces in the U.S. are government-run. It's your belief these organizations are...efficient? Golly!To all those people saying government-run healthcare will lead to a Marxist regime: the police is socialized, the firebrigade is....
He at least attempts to make decent points (and in an amusingly rude way, no less). Seemingly, you lack the same initiative.You can't count this topic as me against W1retap when everybody else in the topic also hates his bullshit.
Which is why you wandered into this thread to complain about him...This guy is a crybaby.
There are many, myself included. The challenge I face is finding a plan from a provider that at least attempts to offer me some sort of reasonable coverage at a reasonable price. I can pay as little as $100 a month for what equates to nothing more than an attractive-looking insurance card (with obscene deductibles and practically nonexistent coverage), or pay $800 a month for...again, practically nothing.Who besides the unemployed/illegal aliens doesn't have a health care plan in the US?
There are many, myself included. The challenge I face is finding a plan from a provider that at least attempts to offer me some sort of reasonable coverage at a reasonable price. I can pay as little as $100 a month for what equates to nothing more than an attractive-looking insurance card (with obscene deductibles and practically nonexistent coverage), or pay $800 a month for...again, practically nothing.
So, for now, I just practice preventative self-care and save myself boatloads of money. Sure, I'm fucked if/when I start getting malignant growths, but it's not as if any of the health care plans available to me would be all that helpful to me in such a scenario anyway.
He at least attempts to make decent points (and in an amusingly rude way, no less). Seemingly, you lack the same initiative.
Which is why you wandered into this thread to complain about him...
It's actually both for me at this time. My employer plans are...well, let's just say they're complicated and insufficient. It's my fault for sticking with that employer, obviously, but the self-employed in the nation (and there are many) have to go through some pretty rough stuff to get medical coverage that's practical. In most cases, though, I'd say that "practical" isn't even achievable. It isn't in my case, and I'm incredibly healthy (and young). And as far as family history goes, the most troubling issue we've faced is minor psoriasis.Are you self employed or is it the employer plans that suck?
That's not really a concern of mine, quite frankly.Here's a tip: Unless you want to be branded with someone who is obviously full of shit, quit arguing for him.
You could at least make a favorable attempt to quote me correctly, if that's what you've attempted to do here. I never said he was "one of decent ideas [sic]", I said he "at least attempts to make decent points". Two very, very different things.Honestly though, considering the way w1retap and Phide post, I'm inclined to believe that only fellow neocons who believe the same as they do are ones that they consider 'ones of make decent ideas'.
I'd take habeas corpus away from terrorists any day of the week over socializing my health care.
You could at least make a favorable attempt to quote me correctly, if that's what you've attempted to do here. I never said he was "one of decent ideas [sic]", I said he "at least attempts to make decent points". Two very, very different things.