US Communications Facing Big Changes in 2009

Terry Olaes

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There are some seriously big changes coming in 2009 for the communications landscape in the US. From at least one commissioner change in the FCC to the digital TV switch, it’s shaping up to be a very interesting year, administration change notwithstanding.

From an Obama administration plan to give all Americans broadband to the nation's looming switch to digital television, the communications landscape is expected to see big shifts in 2009. At the heart of much of the change is the Federal Communications Commission, which soon faces its own shake-up as at least one commissioner departs and Democrats take charge.
 
"It is unacceptable that the United States ranks 15th in the world in broadband adoption," Obama said this month. "Here, in the country that invented the Internet, every child should have the chance to get online. ... That's how we'll strengthen America's competitiveness in the world."

I'll tell you what's unacceptable, is that net neutrality isn't a constitutional amendment by now! Seriously, I am NOT willing to pass out money to multi-billion profit making communication companies that are constantly fighting net neutrality everytime it goes up before congress/senate.

I'm sorry but we need affordable health care in this country not fast internet.
 
Only grandmas will be switching, most people are already digital so its not that huge. But i guess it is a big deal since we are getting rid of over the air television.
 
Only grandmas will be switching, most people are already digital so its not that huge. But i guess it is a big deal since we are getting rid of over the air television.

We're not getting rid of OTA, just moving the analog OTA signal to a digital one.
 
I'll tell you what's unacceptable, is that net neutrality isn't a constitutional amendment by now! Seriously, I am NOT willing to pass out money to multi-billion profit making communication companies that are constantly fighting net neutrality everytime it goes up before congress/senate.

I'm sorry but we need affordable health care in this country not fast internet.
The last thing I want is my government handling my healthcare and broadband. That's disturbing to even think about.
 
The last thing I want is my government handling my healthcare and broadband. That's disturbing to even think about.

It's disturbing to want corporate giants handling healthcare. Profit motive != what's best for people's health.
 
Agreed, but the problem with government run healthcare is that bureacrats aren't good for the people either.
 
The last thing I want is my government handling my healthcare and broadband. That's disturbing to even think about.

Yeah its people like you that are in charge and have screwed things up.why this is supposed to be the best country yet, more than 50 % of population doesn't have health care, like the Michael Moore film, they took some of 911 workers that were screwed by us and got most of their medicine in Cuba for a couple of bucks. Fast internet and Fast bailouts, and A society that are made up of sick individual cause they have no health care.
 
The last thing I want is my government handling my healthcare and broadband. That's disturbing to even think about.


healthcare should have never been a business


it is a direct conflict of interest to which those in the medical profession are supposed to represent.
 
It's disturbing to want corporate giants handling healthcare. Profit motive != what's best for people's health.
At least there's a hint of accountability with corporations. There is none with the government. They fuck you and take your money regardless. We've seen plenty of examples of that over the past few decades. Read some history. Take a look at Europe's current health mess. Look at what's going on in this country at this very moment. Those incompetent assholes on capital hill can't even tie their own shoes. I certainly don't want to put my life in their hands.

Gimme gimme gimme... me me me. What can the government do for me. I want some cheese. I want a bailout. I want healthcare. Get a life, get out there and buy it yourself. No accountability and laziness is what put us where we are.
Yeah its people like you that are in charge and have screwed things up.why this is supposed to be the best country yet, more than 50 % of population doesn't have health care, like the Michael Moore film, they took some of 911 workers that were screwed by us and got most of their medicine in Cuba for a couple of bucks. Fast internet and Fast bailouts, and A society that are made up of sick individual cause they have no health care.
ah, the Cuba argument, classic. I like the Michael Moore addition too, nice. I suggest you go check out their healthcare program in Cuba. Their "doctors" and "surgeons" can't even pass our basic nursing exams. Their medications are not tested and you could be getting anything. And oh gee, where do some of those actual legit meds come from? Those evil corporations. *shocker* Now wonder the people on that island are literally dying to get off and flock to the US and Mexico and S. America..
 
The only thing I hope for when it comes to net neutrality is that it works both ways. Take for instance espn360. I can not get access to this service because I'm not on either AT&T or Verizon, neither of which is available in my area. I can not even PAY for this access. To me, that should not be allowed just as much as ISP's should not be able to throttle bandwidth from certain sites or applications. I do agree that bandwidth caps could be used as long as they are not unrealistically low.

The biggest problem I see the new FCC facing is the broadband adaptation. There are so many rural area's that getting a telecom to roll fiber out and over true broadband is going to be hard. I know in my area there is Cox and POTS (Windstream, AT&T and Bixby Telephone), but there is about 10% of the Tulsa and suburb area that is without broadband because there are not enough people in that area to make it profitable. I really hope a true high speed wireless system is developed and that its allowed to grow fast.
 
The last thing I want is my government handling my healthcare and broadband. That's disturbing to even think about.

You're really mixing up things that are being said here.

I didn't say I want the government handling YOUR health care, but I said we need affordable health care in this country more so than we need free broadband. Besides when you get old and senile and your health coverage through work runs out you'll be happy as dog shit for government health care because it'll cost over $1000 per month just to have health care due to your age.
 
healthcare should have never been a business


it is a direct conflict of interest to which those in the medical profession are supposed to represent.
The medical profession certainly isn't a government entity either. I don't want healthcare rationing and shittier doctors that are paid so low that nobody wants to go into that profession anymore. I don't want sub-par drugs because the corporations who manufacture them no longer want to make them because they have the big government fist pounding down on them to cheapen up costs so our tax dollars can afford to pay for them.
 
The internet should no be policed, the patent system we have is a joke, patent lawyers should gtfo, healthcare should be free or a HELL of a lot cheaper, I should be ruler of mankind..
 
You're really mixing up things that are being said here.

I didn't say I want the government handling YOUR health care, but I said we need affordable health care in this country more so than we need free broadband. Besides when you get old and senile and your health coverage through work runs out you'll be happy as dog shit for government health care because it'll cost over $1000 per month just to have health care due to your age.
When I go senile and old, I'll have managed my money properly throughout my life to have my own health care plan.. that is if big government doesn't steal it from me and replace it with something shittier and rationed out so they can afford to put 100 million illegal immigrants on it as well.
 
When I go senile and old, I'll have managed my money properly throughout my life to have my own health care plan.. that is if big government doesn't steal it from me and replace it with something shittier and rationed out so they can afford to put 100 million illegal immigrants on it as well.

You hope you'll have managed it properly. As many people with 401ks saw that get turned into 200.5ks in an instant this year.

But my point is people should have access to affordable health care, maybe make it some really low level of basic health care but something, I'm not saying everyone in the country needs to be apart of it but everyone should have access to it, because you're paying for it whether you want to or not now whenever someone has an emergency and can't pay for it (legally they can not be refused treatment).

After seeing an itemized bill for my cousin's baby coming into this world in excess of $30k, I'm shocked at the bullshit prices that health companies (because that's what they are, companies) charge insurance.
 
You hope you'll have managed it properly. As many people with 401ks saw that get turned into 200.5ks in an instant this year.

But my point is people should have access to affordable health care, maybe make it some really low level of basic health care but something, I'm not saying everyone in the country needs to be apart of it but everyone should have access to it, because you're paying for it whether you want to or not now whenever someone has an emergency and can't pay for it (legally they can not be refused treatment).

After seeing an itemized bill for my cousin's baby coming into this world in excess of $30k, I'm shocked at the bullshit prices that health companies (because that's what they are, companies) charge insurance.
Yes.. I agree we need affordable health care, but it begins with reforming the system we have now so we eliminate middle men and faulty lawsuits that drive up costs. There's a reason people including my own family members in Canada, come from all other countries that already offer "free" and "government" health care and come to the US for their emergency surgeries and treatments.

Why people think the government is the answer is beyond me. Just in my lifetime I've watched them ruin Social Security, Medicaid/Medicare, investment portfolios, entire auto and steel industries, the stock market and housing market, etc. Why some want them to handle their health care, that's beyond me.
 
Thats the problem. Someone would try to get 1,000,000 for a stubbed toe if they think they could. You have got to remember we live in a nation where people sue McDonald's for making them fat!:D

My question is once you've locked your self out of the ability to hold companies accountable through the court process, what are you going to do then? I guess if some medical corporation kills your family member you can just throw them in a ditch and move on.
 
You want affordable health care? Get rid of all the fat fuckers that only know McDonalds et al as a food source to start. Smokers second. Drinkers third. You want utopia? Be prepared to give up every vice known to man. Say hello to Orwell if the government is providing internet. That is all.
 
Hey I was simply making an example of something we need more in this country than broadband for all. I mean hell I would have said we need clean drinking water as an example instead if it wasn't for the fact we already mostly do have it :D
 
Free health care is available everywhere already in the US, and everyone (mostly illegals) are already taking advantage. Its called the ER. The television is not a place to get news from. That is all.
 
Alrighty, back to broadband. Would this be another added thing the taxpayers would have to subsidize? If so, no thanks. Also, it means the government telling the ISP's what they can and can't do.. no thanks again. I'd rather see direct competition between companies so they have to compete for the customer. I don't need a CCCP hand controlling my ISP.
 
I don't think it is a matter of the government having the broadband as much as it is the government giving incentives for broadband in the way of tax breaks and the like if they run X&X amount of fiber and keep costs low, etc.

however regardless of your dislike of the government there does need to be laws in place to keep the internet an open medium and not simply one companies own backbone to do with as they please.
 
however regardless of your dislike of the government there does need to be laws in place to keep the internet an open medium and not simply one companies own backbone to do with as they please.
If that's your argument, there already are laws for that. What additional laws are you wanting legislated?
 
As a physician, I get paid extra to 'counsel' the patient to stop smoking. I ask you: What patient doesn't know that smoking is bad for them already?

I get paid extra to 'counsel' the patient to lose weight. I ask you: What patient doesn't know that being fat is bad for them already?

I lose money if I do not discuss these issues (not a lot but most insurance companies ~1%) so you bet your ass I 'discuss' these issues. Tell me how having an insurance company telling me what to discuss with my patients benefits the whole, when its obvious to everyone around them that can see/smell?

Wasting time for the sake of reducing liability? Priceless. The SOLE reason that 'affordable' health care is a pipe dream. We practice CYA (cover your ass) medicine today, and if the government controls the health care, you can bet your Aunt Betty that the attorneys are out. Selling out those that lobby the [H]ardest? Only the criminally stupid bite the hand that feeds them.
 
What we need is government regulation and private industry. It's checks and balances, people. Government is too lazy and private corporations are too greedy to make progress on their own; each must do what they do best to produce the best world possible. Private industry is great at innovation and government is great at regulation. Government without industry will do nothing; industry without government will find a way to cheat.

There exists a delicate balance between public and private interests that is different for every industry. The tech industry works best with little regulation since regular innovation drives consumer satisfaction and corporate profits at the same time; health care needs more regulation, however, because the easiest way for this industry to make money - high prices - is not in the consumers' best interest.

Between the extremes of pure capitalism and pure socialism exists an ideal point of compromise that produces the best life for everyone. America is like a pendulum, swinging back and forth between the two extremes. The political turmoil and frequent power shifts of the past few decades are simply a sign that we are zeroing on the point of equilibrium; hence, the oscillations become more rapid. Occasionally, an unexpected jolt may throw us off (oil shortage, terrorist attack, economic recession), but gravity (democracy and globalization) will always pull us back towards the center.

So, about that broadband...
 
What we need is government regulation and private industry. It's checks and balances, people. Government is too lazy and private corporations are too greedy to make progress on their own; each must do what they do best to produce the best world possible. Private industry is great at innovation and government is great at regulation. Government without industry will do nothing; industry without government will find a way to cheat.

There exists a delicate balance between public and private interests that is different for every industry. The tech industry works best with little regulation since regular innovation drives consumer satisfaction and corporate profits at the same time; health care needs more regulation, however, because the easiest way for this industry to make money - high prices - is not in the consumers' best interest.

Between the extremes of pure capitalism and pure socialism exists an ideal point of compromise that produces the best life for everyone. America is like a pendulum, swinging back and forth between the two extremes. The political turmoil and frequent power shifts of the past few decades are simply a sign that we are zeroing on the point of equilibrium; hence, the oscillations become more rapid. Occasionally, an unexpected jolt may throw us off (oil shortage, terrorist attack, economic recession), but gravity (democracy and globalization) will always pull us back towards the center.

So, about that broadband...
I beg to differ. What they're terrible at is regulation. They always get shit wrong and drive companies & services into the hole. Not only that, but whatever bureaucrat comes along down the road can decide what he/she deems is right or necessary and can throw the whole thing out of whack even if it was right in the first place. Adding more government hands to tinker with halfway working shit is a fast track to having no working shit at all. What we actually need is oversight and transparency with a more streamlined way of doing things. The government can be good at oversight if they don't have people paying them off, thus transparency. No more lobbyist bullshit, no more earmarks. They can oversee and protect the people from corrupt business practices without regulating every step a company takes by placing strict guidelines on their every move. The last thing we need is a non-free enterprise.
 
I guess if some medical corporation kills your family member you can just throw them in a ditch and move on.

Bingo!!!:eek:

But back to the subject. I think most of you guys are looking into this too much. It was never stated that broadband would be free. The agenda is for everyone to have the ability to get internet, not get on the internet. What this really means is for the FCC to lay down standards such as what they did with OTA analog switching to OTA digital and also make the internet avalible to rural parts of the country. I think this is a great agenda that he is taking to bring the U.S. back up to date with the rest of the world. As it stands, some of countries out there make our internet look like 56k, and there is no reason for that. These standards will "help" companies like at&t to update there tech while not screwing over the people at the same time. Plus the reconstruction of the data network could bring a lot more needed jobs with benifits. The issue is not just about internet, but more than meets the eye... Transformers.
 
The last thing I want is my government handling my healthcare and broadband. That's disturbing to even think about.
No, what's REALLY disturbing is that we have 40 million people without health insurance in this country. People whose only recourse to treatment is the ER, and with whom the taxpayer ends up paying the bill anyway. It's time for single payer National Health Care in this country. The US has spent trillions of dollars subsidizing the defense of the Free World, whicle every other major industrial country in the world has gone on to some form of NHC. We need to start thinking charity begins at home and take care of sick Americans first.

And as far as broadband goes, it's quite apparent that the content providers and ISPs want to screw the customer at every turn. I say regulate the crap out of both them.

Net Neutrality FTW.
 
I beg to differ. What they're terrible at is regulation. They always get shit wrong and drive companies & services into the hole. Not only that, but whatever bureaucrat comes along down the road can decide what he/she deems is right or necessary and can throw the whole thing out of whack even if it was right in the first place. Adding more government hands to tinker with halfway working shit is a fast track to having no working shit at all. What we actually need is oversight and transparency with a more streamlined way of doing things. The government can be good at oversight if they don't have people paying them off, thus transparency. No more lobbyist bullshit, no more earmarks. They can oversee and protect the people from corrupt business practices without regulating every step a company takes by placing strict guidelines on their every move. The last thing we need is a non-free enterprise.

There is much more corruption in business than in government. I'm tired of how every time a new bill or , everyone immediately complains about how the government will screw it up, or someone will pay them off, or <insert political party here> will ruin it, or <insert current president's name here> is too stupid to pull it off, or its all part of a conspiracy to get people to give up their freedoms...the list goes on. I almost never see someone say "awesome, that's just what I wanted", even though the government is doing exactly what he's wanted done for years.

I think the US could use a better broadband infrastructure; if the government wishes to build one, I welcome their efforts. I think health care is too expensive; if the government wants to make it cheaper, I welcome their efforts. I think the economy is lagging; if the government wants to stimulate it, I welcome their efforts. They are real people with real feelings and a real desire to help the citizens of their country, not to mention get reelected. Corporations have a strong desire to make a profit; government has a more moderate desire to help the people. When the motivation of money also benefits the consumer, things work great; when it doesn't, government is your best choice. They are not out to get you; although a small amount of corruption and a not-so-small amount of inefficiency exists (that's just human nature), government exists, for the most part, for your benefit. I know the media would have you think otherwise, but I just don't believe that. I have a desire to work towards the betterment of society as a whole and leave this world in a better place than I found it, and I can only assume most politicians and bureaucrats share the same goals.
 
No, what's REALLY disturbing is that we have 40 million people without health insurance in this country. People whose only recourse to treatment is the ER, and with whom the taxpayer ends up paying the bill anyway. It's time for single payer National Health Care in this country. The US has spent trillions of dollars subsidizing the defense of the Free World, whicle every other major industrial country in the world has gone on to some form of NHC. We need to start thinking charity begins at home and take care of sick Americans first.
What's "REALLY" (extra bold italic and underline added for emphasis) disturbing is how many illegal immigrants that would be subsidizing with my tax dollars. How many of those 40 million are illegals?

And the government's job is to protect it's citizens from enemies both domestic and foreign, not provide government sponsored health care. We have the right to life and liberty, but the pursuit of happiness. You have to earn your shit every step of the way, not have it handed to you at the expense of someone else's tax dollars which ends up being all of our tax dollars. Sure, give up 50% or more of your income, because that's what it would cost in government level income tax.
 
What's "REALLY" (extra bold italic and underline added for emphasis) disturbing is how many illegal immigrants that would be subsidizing with my tax dollars. How many of those 40 million are illegals?

And the government's job is to protect it's citizens from enemies both domestic and foreign, not provide government sponsored health care. We have the right to life and liberty, but the pursuit of happiness. You have to earn your shit every step of the way, not have it handed to you at the expense of someone else's tax dollars which ends up being all of our tax dollars. Sure, give up 50% or more of your income, because that's what it would cost in government level income tax.

I personally think health care falls under "life", not "happiness".
 
There is much more corruption in business than in government. I'm tired of how every time a new bill or , everyone immediately complains about how the government will screw it up, or someone will pay them off, or <insert political party here> will ruin it, or <insert current president's name here> is too stupid to pull it off, or its all part of a conspiracy to get people to give up their freedoms...the list goes on. I almost never see someone say "awesome, that's just what I wanted", even though the government is doing exactly what he's wanted done for years.
Business has much more to lose through means of corruption, and they've already paid the price for that as we've seen in the past few years and months. Sadly, government is even more corrupt and actually handed out bailouts, because after all they were one of the main contributors to the problem. ahaha, wow, it's just one nice vicious circle isn't it? Governments causing businesses to fail by means of legislation and regulation, then having corrupt CEO's and high level organization boards realizing this and taking all the money they can just before the whole place caves in, and then the government comes along and actually gives them a few dozen billion dollars and a smack on the wrist, then everyone goes back to business as usual. lmao, I swear, you couldn't make it up or even dream it up. But sure, they aren't the problem or don't screw it up. There's nothing to see here folks. After all, it's only our tax dollars. All I have is my property, my life, and my money. It seems everyone wants to give away all 3 to the hands of the government. That's more fucked up than I can even begin to fathom.
 
I personally think health care falls under "life", not "happiness".
You should read the founding father's personal journals and papers if you want to know what their definition of "right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness" meant. We'll leave it at that, because you're pretty far off base on that one.
 
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