Bluray 1080p Question

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Rockblaster13

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Hi all,

I have upgraded my pc recently so that I can watch Bluray on my pc.

I have the newest and also update for WinDVD9 Plus Bluray software installed.

Now my question/problem is when I insert a Bluray disc and play it, the quality is amazing. It uses a 1920x1080 (Full 1080p) resolution at the menu and all but as soon as I click play to watch the movie itself the quality goes down. It wont fully use the 1920x1080 resolution anymore.
I tried playing "The Golden Compass" , Transformers and some more and they all seem to do this. The Golden Compass which I have right in front of me says that it will play at 1080p so what gives?

Does anyone know how to fix this problem?

My PC Specs:

BenQ FP241VW (24" LCD with a 1920x1200 Resolution) I am using the DVI connection.
EVGA GTX260
LG Bluray Drive
Creative X-Fi

Let me know what more info. you need.

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
As SatTech stated, either your gfx card or display is not HDCP compliant and you are seeing a scaled down version.
Often you get no picture so at least you got something.

You can either complete the HDCP chain or purchase AnyDVD HD which will allow the video to played with non compliant hardware.
It isnt a player but is a tool that sits in the background monitoring for a Blu Ray disk to be inserted.
It will then do as instructed and can stream the video to your player without the protection.
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

I just ran the program all are green in basic and advanced. Except for Graphics Card.
This is a pretty new model card from Nvidia. It does say it supports full HDCP.
So hmmm
 
BTW I do have another DVI Cable. Is there a chance that it might be the cable?

I will try to get a DVI > HDMI Cable tomorrow.
 
Using other DVI Cable didnt make a difference. Kinda knew it, but was worth a shot.:D

I used AnyDVD nice software. But I get the exact same results.
 
Have you tried different NVidia driver versions in case the one you have is bugged?
 
Nenu said:
Have you tried different NVidia driver versions in case the one you have is bugged?
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Ok I will give that a try later today, thanks

BTW I just found something weird my Transformers disc 1 ( Movie) doesnt play full resolution. However the Disc 2 ( behind scenes etc) does show the full beauty of Bluray.

This is kinda funny.
 
elleana said:
This. To display 1080p you need either HDCP/HDMI or AnyDVD.
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LOL Yeah, right. HDMI is pretty much DVI plus audio. Thats not the problem. I'd venture to say the problem is that he's using WinDVD which isn't exaclty a decent app, it has issues when it comes to playback and most likely something in it is screwing up.

Try a different app; PowerDVD or Total Media Theater. Sounds like WinDVD is reading your card wrong and is throwing up an HDCP error which is why it's downsampling the vdeo. Behind the scenes stuff doesn't use HDCP.

This is why I bought a PS3; I don't have to deal with shit like this. ;)
 
CrimandEvil said:
LOL Yeah, right. HDMI is pretty much DVI plus audio. Thats not the problem. I'd venture to say the problem is that he's using WinDVD which isn't exaclty a decent app, it has issues when it comes to playback and most likely something in it is screwing up.

Try a different app; PowerDVD or Total Media Theater. Sounds like WinDVD is reading your card wrong and is throwing up an HDCP error which is why it's downsampling the vdeo. Behind the scenes stuff doesn't use HDCP.

This is why I bought a PS3; I don't have to deal with shit like this. ;)
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Thanks for the reply. I just bought Total Media Theater, even if it does not solve my problem its ok. Cause it seems to be a really good product to have.
 
Well, your monitor and your video card both have HDCP support, so you can rule out that issue if you are using DVI or HDMI. Try some different video driver versions. The only decent app I've found for Blu-ray playback that actually works consistently is PowerDVD 8.
 
Yep, PowerDVD is the only app I would consider using on a PC for BD playback.
 
PowerDVD is all I have used and not had any issues with HD-DVD or Blu-Ray.
 
Thank again for all the replies. I really appreciate all your help.

Well I just tried PowerDVD and got same results.

My BenQ is HDCP and have another LCD that is also HDCP so I tested and got same results again.

LOL this problem is kinda hard to solve.
 
what about any other codecs you have installed which might be conflicting?
did you leave windvd installed? i wouldnt. completely uninstall windvd, reboot, then install powerdvd.
the dvi cable you are using.....what type is it? you should be using a dvi-d cable if im not mistaken. ive heard of other people making the mistake of buying the wrong dvi cables.
 
You should be using a DVI-I or DVI-D cable to have HDCP function properly. You do NOT want DVI-A.

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The DVI Cables came with my LCD's.
They are the DVI-D Single Link Cables.

I also was thinking that maybe some other codec might be conflicting. So I uninstalled all of codecs that I might of have.Than install bluray players back and again got the same results.

Ok I am starting to think that maybe I am mistaken of something. I am going to send you guys some pics and you can tell me if that is normal or not.
 
As you can see the:
1st Pic I posted is in 1920x1080 - Disc 1 - Disc Menu of "The Golden Compass"
High Quality super nice picture

2nd Pic: I again in 1920x1080 - Disc 2 - Behind the Scenes Disc
High Quality Super Nice picture

3rd Pic: Is NOT in 1920x1080 - Disc 1- Movie Disc - Playing the movie
This is kinda like a DVD quality really..

Now you guys can exactly see what I am talking about.

Thanks in advance for your help.
 
Pictures of a screen with a digital camera really don't show us anything, but we get the point.

Yes, the movie itself has the flags that tell your machine whether to downscale or not. The menu and special features rarely have those flags for any movies, thus full resolution you're seeing there.

Since it's an obvious downscaling issue during the feature presentation, that is your system throwing a flag saying something isn't making it HDCP compliant. Just load up the latest retail/legal version of AnyDVD HD and it will take care of the issue. It has to be AnyDVD HD, not just the regular AnyDVD. If that isn't it, it is a driver issue. Since you've tried multiple playback software's with the same results, you can pretty much rule out it's the playback software causing trouble.
 
it is cropping the resolution, now you do need to remeber that most LCD's are a 16:10 ratio where as movies are 16:9 or something i recall? but i wouldnt think it would leave that much black space.
 
The Golden Compass is 2.35:1. The black space is correct considering the aspect ratio difference compared to the monitor.
 
w1retap said:
The Golden Compass is 2.35:1. The black space is correct considering the aspect ratio difference compared to the monitor.
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Oh ok. Can you recommend me a Bluray movie that has a really high quality and better ratio. So I can test it out?
 
Well I guess that was my problem to begin with. I never knew that every Bluray disc has a different ratio that sucks. The funny thing is every movie I have seen up till now has the same ratio as The Golden Compass.
 
The original aspect ratio the movie was shot in is the best aspect ratio to watch the movie in. That way you don't get any cropping which cuts out parts of the scene that the director intended you to see. So really, there is no "better" aspect ratio. If you want to watch movies that take up the full screen, VHS tapes that are formatted for NTSC TV's are the way to go.
 
Rockblaster13 said:
Oh ok. Can you recommend me a Bluray movie that has a really high quality and better ratio. So I can test it out?
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A movie with an aspect ratio of 1.85:1 should pretty much fill your whole screen. The only movie I know offhand that has that ratio is Spider-Man, but there are others of course.
 
w1retap said:
The original aspect ratio the movie was shot in is the best aspect ratio to watch the movie in. That way you don't get any cropping which cuts out parts of the scene that the director intended you to see. So really, there is no "better" aspect ratio. If you want to watch movies that take up the full screen, VHS tapes that are formatted for NTSC TV's are the way to go.
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Well it doesn't have to be full screen or anything. But imo everything in the behind the scenes I have seen is much better quality than the movie itself.
 
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