Internet Bandwidth Running Out, Study Says

Terry Olaes

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A study conducted by Nemertes Research projected that the demand for Internet bandwidth will exceed capacity by 2012. This number was adjusted from a similar report last year due to “deteriorating global economic conditions.” O noes!

Nemertes emphasized it is not projecting that the Internet will crash or shut down altogether. Rather, the typical user probably will experience Internet "brownouts," where such high-bandwidth applications as high-definition video-streaming and peer-to-peer file-sharing will stop performing up to users' expectations, the firm says.
 
More bullshit from the ISP sponsored media to attempt to push against Net Neutrality so they can bring us their dear pacakged internet and jack up our rates. All the talk of internet bandwidth tanking is pure bullshit brought up by ISP's such as Comcast that already limit downloads per month and bandwidth when attempting to share files. If this were true countries with considerably worse economies as our own would not have 100mb Connections available to even the poor such as in Korea.

One day I hope lying ISP CEO's, especially the ones working for Comcast, will no longer be employed. That would make me very happy.
 
More bullshit from the ISP sponsored media to attempt to push against Net Neutrality so they can bring us their dear pacakged internet and jack up our rates. All the talk of internet bandwidth tanking is pure bullshit brought up by ISP's such as Comcast that already limit downloads per month and bandwidth when attempting to share files. If this were true countries with considerably worse economies as our own would not have 100mb Connections available to even the poor such as in Korea.

One day I hope lying ISP CEO's, especially the ones working for Comcast, will no longer be employed. That would make me very happy.

I applaud you sir! Now also throw in the fact with a decline in the economy, how many ppl are gonna keep a $40-50 month payment over food? Not many, so shouldn't net usage drop on that alone? Yeah, it will. Like you said, its BS for the carriars.
 
Maybe they should study how much bandwith we'll get back when we start holding ISPs and people responsible for leaving infected machines connected before they start claiming there's no bandwidth.
 
The problem with these tests is that their done for ISPs in America.

All anyone needs to do is sue and use Japan internet as an example of why this is bullshit.
 
Oh no! The internets is dying!

the Web would exceed its capacity by 2012.

No really, can I hit someone? preferably the author of this article? Pls? (and not get arrested) ;)
 
"Scotty, I need moar power!"

I don't know about bandwidth actually running out... If things start to get to critical capacity, people will start to demand that the true abusers (IE: Spammers and TCP flooding virus makers) finally be accountable for their actions.

10 Gigabit over copper RJ45 is pretty well going to hit consumer level pricing next year. It even works with existing Cat5e/6, so that it will be an easy sell to everyone with last mile (or should I say last 100 meter) connection congestion.
 
Doesn't surprise me. American Internet providers are all dumb fucks. Everyone is stuck with a price fix and bad service.

Verizon needs to keep cranking out FIOS networks.
 
I applaud you sir! Now also throw in the fact with a decline in the economy, how many ppl are gonna keep a $40-50 month payment over food? Not many, so shouldn't net usage drop on that alone? Yeah, it will. Like you said, its BS for the carriars.

Being as I have seen just about every poor as mother fucker in the world with a cell phone, I'd say quite a few people won't realize the expense that is there and keep it. Seeing fuckers pay with food stamps and WIC vouchers all the while gabbing on a cell phone in the supermarket... *sigh*
 
I think they forgot to say the internet is almost out of bandwidth (Unless your running FIOS because your ISP already bothered to upgrade)
 
A study conducted by Nemertes Research projected that the demand for Internet bandwidth will exceed capacity by 2012. This number was adjusted from a similar report last year due to “deteriorating global economic conditions.” O noes!
So we will run out of bandwidth in 2012, the same year the Mayan Calender says is the end of the world.

Heck of a coincidence.
 
Goddamn Corporate America is so freaking lazy and greedy...
 
[UPS] Sorce;1033356307 said:
So we will run out of bandwidth in 2012, the same year the Mayan Calender says is the end of the world.

Heck of a coincidence.
lol :p
 
More bullshit from the ISP sponsored media to attempt to push against Net Neutrality so they can bring us their dear pacakged internet and jack up our rates. All the talk of internet bandwidth tanking is pure bullshit brought up by ISP's such as Comcast that already limit downloads per month and bandwidth when attempting to share files. If this were true countries with considerably worse economies as our own would not have 100mb Connections available to even the poor such as in Korea.

One day I hope lying ISP CEO's, especially the ones working for Comcast, will no longer be employed. That would make me very happy.

Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
These ISPs are like American car companies, always complaining for one reason or another and not doing anything to really solve the problem at hand. In the mean time as others pointed out, countries like Japan and S. Korea that have a huge density of users with much faster connections have no such issues. Too bad we can't import ISP service in the US like we do cars.
 
If the ISP's get to implement Net Neutrality and other moronic rules and regulations, then users will indeed have problems viewing HD video in the year 2012... If they have it their way, we'd pay $75 a month to view text-only websites and send emails to each other because there'd be a monthly 2MB download cap and 512KB upload cap, yet the connection would be advertised as 50Mb because you can indeed download those monthly 2MB at 50Mb/s :p

This study assumes that evolution will grind to a halt today and no new innovations to improve bandwidth will be made.

Also if you look at countries like Japan, Germany, UK etc., they have similar numbers for broadband penetration, slightly over 20%, but the population density is in some cases 10x higher than for the US. Also Internet subscribers in those countries more often have access to very fast connections, 50Mb, 100Mb etc.
So you've got 10 times as many people within a given area, using internet connections that are up to 25x faster than the typical DSL connection, and yet I don't remember reading anywhere that the Internet infrastructure in Japan has collapsed.
 
just more propaganda for the uninformed. prolly trying to push another y2k agenda to get everyone on the ipv6 bandwagon or some net neutrality bullshit.
 
One of the big problems in the US is that we are not consolodated into a small area like Japan or European countries. We have a lot more ground to cover. That being said there is still no excuse for letting our infrastructure fall behind so much aside from greed.
 
ISPs are pocketting money and complaining that their customers are demanding too much... it's the pinnacle of lazy. Investing that money into new infrastructure solves the problem. BUT IT'S SO HARD!
 
I'm sure this is all true... Assuming they do nothing and just sit on there asses, then yes, perhaps its true. Its the equivelent of saying that video games in 2012 will be too advanced for my computer to play everthing on high :rolleyes:
 
[UPS] Sorce;1033356307 said:
So we will run out of bandwidth in 2012, the same year the Mayan Calender says is the end of the world.

Heck of a coincidence.

Or is it?

LOL!
 
It's simple: they need to upgrade all their systems, get rid of the bottlenecks, and build more pipelines for data. The existing data lines are mostly outdated, and if not outdated, the number remains the same. I mean, hell, if they were sooo worried about this, why won't they take a cheap way out by using existing (old) technology - copper and the like, and just double up the pipelines that they already have? That would effectively increase the United States bandwidth. It would cost money, sure, but not as much as they'd spend doing a total tech upgrade.

Lazy fucks.
 
Glad to see that only one idiot has post FIOS as the solution to this problem so far this time around. When an article like this was post a few weeks ago by the second page I think 3/4 of the post were from idiots such as him.

FIOS doesn't not solve any bandwitdh issues by itself. it doesn't matter if you have fiber to your home or if you have copper. If your ISP doesn't upgrade their main connection to the world then you will not get any more bandwidth. All they need to do is start larger connections and the US backbone nees to be upgraded to support all of them having either more connections or faster connections so that everyone can keep up.
 
Glad to see that only one idiot has post FIOS as the solution to this problem so far this time around. When an article like this was post a few weeks ago by the second page I think 3/4 of the post were from idiots such as him.

FIOS doesn't not solve any bandwitdh issues by itself. it doesn't matter if you have fiber to your home or if you have copper. If your ISP doesn't upgrade their main connection to the world then you will not get any more bandwidth. All they need to do is start larger connections and the US backbone nees to be upgraded to support all of them having either more connections or faster connections so that everyone can keep up.

I think some of us are just noticing that FiOS provides uncapped, unthrottled, symmetrical 20/20Mbps service for $65/month while Comcast can only provide capped 6/1Mbps service for the same price.

Verizon must be doing something right with those FiOS networks.
 
Doesn't matter, the end of the world will have arrived by then.
 
I think some of us are just noticing that FiOS provides uncapped, unthrottled, symmetrical 20/20Mbps service for $65/month while Comcast can only provide capped 6/1Mbps service for the same price.

Verizon must be doing something right with those FiOS networks.

They are upgrading their networks. That is all that is needed. In some areas comcast will give you speeds around that. I don't have their service so I don't know the exact speeds, but one of my cousins normally gets about 25+ for his download. Not sure about the up. Your still going to have your monthly caps and whatnot but they can offer higher speeds in the areas where they have better equipment. DSL can't give you the up speeds but it can give you 20+ Mbps down if the right equipment is out in the fields. ADSL2+ can give you 24Mbps down, 1Mbps up. ADSL2+ Annex M changed that 1 up to 3.5Mbps up.

However even if the ISP was the swap out all their dslams and stuff with ADSL2+ Annex M equipment they would need to also change out other equipment that could provide all of those people their bandwidth.

For Verzion, I would assume that they build everything from the ground up for the FIOS. Thus it probably has newer equipment that can support higher bandwidth to the customer area, and they probably upgraded their connection to the rest of the world accordingly also. If companies stay ontop of upgrading major routers in their network and their world connection then there is no issue.

I work for a small telco with a ISP sister company. They have no issues with bandwidth limitations. They monitor overall bandwidth usage and upgrade stuff when a certain area starts to reach a certain limit. They just upgraded some router cards a few weeks back as the current equipment was peaking at about 80% utilization for the area it was routing for. So they gave it better processor cards, faster connections... Now it is only at about 20% of the newer hardware. Customers didn't notice anything as it was taken care of before it was a problem. Next is ugprading their main connection to the world as that too is getting up there in usage. Again it will be done before there is a problem. All connections to home stay the same, however fixing the bottlenecks between the customer and the world solve any possible bandwidth issues.

And that is where most fail. Like it has been stated before, most company like Comcast and the rest don't want to spend the money to upgrade the equipment to keep up with the times. Instead they would rather limit your monthly usage to keep you from using too much so that they don't have to spend money.

This is actually where smaller Telco/ISPs are going to shine the most IMO. They have a small limited userbase so they are going to work their asses off to ensure they are deploying DSL (or FIOS for some) to as many people as they can. They also are going to make sure to keep their speeds as stable as possible. Because if they don't then they run the risk of losing customers to places like comcast or some other cable company that offers triple play.
 
I think the following quote is what scares me the most.

Looking forward, Nemertes says that if this capacity issue is not addressed, the Internet will fracture into a tiered system where companies with the most money will pay for specialized network infrastructure that will ensure their content is delivered at higher speeds than non-favored content.
So basically if that goes through then we will get our info from large corporations only.
 
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