Bomb-proof Trash Receptacles to Debut in London

Terry Olaes

Terry Olaes

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London streets are about to look even weirder. On the horizon is a new bomb-proof trashcan that not only will store your rubbish, but will also sport an LCD screen to provide news and travel information. The problem with making something “X-proof” is that some people will view it as a challenge to defeat and an escalating bomb “field-test” isn’t a good idea on London’s crowded avenues.

Next year, however, hundreds of high-tech bomb-resistant bins are to be placed throughout the financial district of London, where an IRA bomb was detonated in 1993, killing one man and injuring more than 40 people. London is the first city to install the bins, which will also operate as recycling units.
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Its true what they say, make something Idiot Proof and someone will come up with a better Idiot! Same goes for about anything that is X proof. I know London is a huge target for terrorism, both from al-quaida (sp?) and the IRA, and I am sure that the people there will breath alot bettter knowing that steps are being taken to protect them. However theres nothing that can be 100% secured!
 
its not a silly idea at all. it eliminates an easy target for terrorists or anyone trying to do harm. its too easy to throw a bomb away... but these cans will be like small versions of what bomb squads use to disarm bombs.
 
One little decades-long terror campaign by the IRA, followed by train bombings and various attempted terror attacks by muslim extremists, and people freak out, and our lives are impacted by the intrusive use of bomb-resistant bins. It's political correctness gone mad!
 
Litfod said:
One little decades-long terror campaign by the IRA, followed by train bombings and various attempted terror attacks by muslim extremists, and people freak out, and our lives are impacted by the intrusive use of bomb-resistant bins. It's political correctness gone mad!
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Even scarier to me is the governments that take away guns from their citizens, crippling the rights of people to protect themselves from criminals/enemies/terrorists. For protection, you have to yet again rely on the government. Not quite my idea of freedom and security. I'd rather rely on myself and my neighbors.
 
no ones taking for fuckin guns away here.


but yeah, i didnt know trash bins were primary bomb targets
 
Wait for it....

Million Dollar Rubbish Bins Destroyed by Teens

(lawyers blame GTA:V) :p
 
Martyr said:
no ones taking for fuckin guns away here.


but yeah, I didnt know trash bins were primary bomb targets
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Actually you would be surprised how convenient trash cans are for bombs. you don't want to leave the thing out in the open for everyone to see and question why its there, just drop a package in the trashcan and no one asks questions.

The Atlanta Olympics bombing was a bomb placed in the trash can. London has had more than a few bombs that were placed in a trash cans.

I am sure that the trashcan doesn't try to completely contain the blast, such a device would be near impossible to use as a public trashcan. I would think it would direct the blast in a safe direction, UP in this case. I am sure a lot of windows will get broken due to the blast force buy people that are close to it will suffer a lot less if the blast wasn't directed upwards. I would also think there's some type of cushion inside to reduce the blast pressure a little as well
 
Sorry but public computing is generally disgusting - now install it on a trash can?

Enjoy your newly acquired aids as you interact the mall map.
 
w1retap said:
Even scarier to me is the governments that take away guns from their citizens, crippling the rights of people to protect themselves from criminals/enemies/terrorists. For protection, you have to yet again rely on the government. Not quite my idea of freedom and security. I'd rather rely on myself and my neighbors.
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Agreed.
 
Okay, the gun comments? What are you talking about? This is the UK we're talking about here. People here who do have guns generally don't use them for protection. No one is talking about taking your guns away :rolleyes:

Regardless, the bomb-proof bin idea wins in my book, espcially if this means we can have bins back in train stations. It's kind of annoying to have to carry around empty coffee/drinks cans around with you until you leave the rail system.

The touch screen computer idea? Not so much. Public computers tend to get vandalized before you can look at them.
 
w1retap said:
Even scarier to me is the governments that take away guns from their citizens, crippling the rights of people to protect themselves from criminals/enemies/terrorists. For protection, you have to yet again rely on the government. Not quite my idea of freedom and security. I'd rather rely on myself and my neighbors.
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Nobody took them away, we didn't have any (or need them) in the first place.

This is nothing to do with guns anyway.
 
That wasn't the point. It's too much government protection that the people rely upon. When governments take away your right, or make it nearly impossible to own a firearm, you have to rely upon them for your own security against criminals and terrorists.
 
Litfod said:
One little decades-long terror campaign by the IRA, followed by train bombings and various attempted terror attacks by muslim extremists, and people freak out, and our lives are impacted by the intrusive use of bomb-resistant bins. It's political correctness gone mad!
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All funded by MI5 of course.
 
roninblade said:
All funded by MI5 of course.
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Trying to think about which rights the Government has removed from me so far... Trying reeeeally hard... nope, can't think of one. Unless you count the right to not put rubbish in bomb-proof bins. Man, I really enjoyed having that right.
 
Ok, if we can put (what appears to be) 32" LCD panels on TRASH CANS, should I not be able to buy one for my office for like $99 or less?
 
It's ok. They have Billy-Clubs...

w1retap said:
Even scarier to me is the governments that take away guns from their citizens, crippling the rights of people to protect themselves from criminals/enemies/terrorists. For protection, you have to yet again rely on the government. Not quite my idea of freedom and security. I'd rather rely on myself and my neighbors.
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They should have stealth launched it, so they could thwart at least one attack with these cans.

So now they're just going to leave a school bag or whatever right next to the bin, or on a park bench, or in a car.

A bomb proof trash can would have only been good if the terrorists didn't know it was bomb proof.
 
chrisf6969 said:
They should have stealth launched it, so they could thwart at least one attack with these cans.

So now they're just going to leave a school bag or whatever right next to the bin, or on a park bench, or in a car.

A bomb proof trash can would have only been good if the terrorists didn't know it was bomb proof.
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Excuse me? Cover up what they plan on spending millions on? No, they need to re-inforce that they are focusing on public safety. The sooner this news gets out, the better.
 
Why didn't they just say they had made a bomb proof trash can and installed it to look like a regular trash can. Would have cost millions less and people wouldn't bomb trash cans.
 
GuiltyDragon said:
Trying to think about which rights the Government has removed from me so far... Trying reeeeally hard... nope, can't think of one. Unless you count the right to not put rubbish in bomb-proof bins. Man, I really enjoyed having that right.
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well you don't have the patriot act in the now do you ^ ^. ( assuming you live in the out of the USA)
Of course this thread has nothing to do with government taking rights away from people, it's the government giving people back their trash bins, except now the people don't have to be afraid that there is a bomb that will explode and kill them when they go to do the environmentally friendly thing to do.:)
 
friedchicken said:
Excuse me? Cover up what they plan on spending millions on? No, they need to re-inforce that they are focusing on public safety. The sooner this news gets out, the better.
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Better for whom? His point was, now that everyone knows the cans are bomb proof, a prospective terrorist can plant it elsewhere. Spend millions to make it harder to hide bombs and provide news.
 
SPARTAN VI said:
Better for whom? His point was, now that everyone knows the cans are bomb proof, a prospective terrorist can plant it elsewhere. Spend millions to make it harder to hide bombs and provide news.
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true enough, but maybe they are lying and its not bomb proof, just looks cool.:cool:

It is a statement, that is meant to alert " terrorists" and the average Joe that there are measures being taken to insure their security, and that it is now safe to take out the trash at least.
 
... I am going to be so glad when the election is over, and all you right wing and left wing nuts go back to your flamethrowing where you aren't trying to catch the rest of us in the crossfire.

What bothers me is, why are they spending all this money on these ridiculous bins, when they're complaining about not having enough? You want bomb-proof, fine! Take out the low rez LCD and suddenly they drop another $100; across the board that gets you at least a couple more. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to put LCDs onto low-sitting trash bins where they'll be impossible to read and add hundreds to the cost of each. (And they can't be cheap, if they're supposedly bombproof.)
 
SPARTAN VI said:
Better for whom? His point was, now that everyone knows the cans are bomb proof, a prospective terrorist can plant it elsewhere. Spend millions to make it harder to hide bombs and provide news.
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Yes, but his point- and your point is moot. They took the trash cans off the streets/platforms.

As for "forewarning" terrorists not to use these as bomb repositories in dense populated areas, how is that ever a bad thing?
 
What bothers me is, why are they spending all this money on these ridiculous bins, when they're complaining about not having enough? You want bomb-proof, fine! Take out the low rez LCD and suddenly they drop another $100; across the board that gets you at least a couple more. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to put LCDs onto low-sitting trash bins where they'll be impossible to read and add hundreds to the cost of each. (And they can't be cheap, if they're supposedly bombproof.)
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i must agree on the inutility of LCDs on trash cans, though they are in London, and it will be a while before anyone understands the Brits ;) ( it's a joke, don't start flaming me calling me a xenophobe).

You won't have to wait long for it to be over. ^ ^
 
GuiltyDragon said:
Trying to think about which rights the Government has removed from me so far... Trying reeeeally hard... nope, can't think of one. Unless you count the right to not put rubbish in bomb-proof bins. Man, I really enjoyed having that right.
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Are you able to send email, text messages or talk on the phone without the goverment possibly listening in? No

Right to the 4th Amendment? No

Right to Habeus Corpus? No

Right of not having the military being used as law enforcement under Posse Commetatus? No

Right to speak out against the government without being labeled a domestic terrorist under section 802 of the Patriot Act? No

Now go vote for Obama or McCain and get on with your life.
 
roninblade said:
Are you able to send email, text messages or talk on the phone without the goverment possibly listening in? No

Right to the 4th Amendment? No

Right to Habeus Corpus? No

Right of not having the military being used as law enforcement under Posse Commetatus? No

Right to speak out against the government without being labeled a domestic terrorist under section 802 of the Patriot Act? No

Now go vote for Obama or McCain and get on with your life.
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Those are all very true, however what does that have to do with trash cans in london?:confused:
 
friedchicken said:
Yes, but his point- and your point is moot. They took the trash cans off the streets/platforms.

As for "forewarning" terrorists not to use these as bomb repositories in dense populated areas, how is that ever a bad thing?
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I'd rather that the terrorists not know and chuck a bomb or two into them rather than adapt a new tactic immediately. By publicizing this, it only acts as a deterrent versus possibly fulfilling its purpose THEN serving as a deterrent thereafter. They could've deterred them by using a regular old trashcan, then spraying truck bed material on the outside (it's tough stuff) then announcing it's bomb resistant (Smash Lab has done this). Save a pretty penny, hm?

Anyway.. I'd rather take issue with the LCDs. Do they really need LCDs on them? Such a waste of tax money.
 
w1retap said:
That wasn't the point. It's too much government protection that the people rely upon. When governments take away your right, or make it nearly impossible to own a firearm, you have to rely upon them for your own security against criminals and terrorists.
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Don't get me wrong, i'm a massive advocate of civil liberties and such. I do think modern governments are encroaching on our lives unnecessarily and dangerously, especially here in the UK where moves are being made to monitor all our digital activities, for example.

It's just that we don't see gun ownership as a right in the way you guys do. And even with that difference, i'm willing to bet our countries have similar rules on self defence and how far you can take the law in to your own hands, so the tools you use are just arbitrary.
 
Wow, a trash can with the size of a small kid can stop an explosion that destroys a train carriage? No wonder they publish this info, at least it would stop people from putting an explosive inside the trash can.
 
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