The Official P45 Asus P5Q Motherboard Thread

MasterTactician said:
I am having a similar problem to this. I just built my new comp (see sig) and had everything up and running for about a week (No OCing yet). Last night, I shut down the computer as usual, only to find that it wouldn't POST this morning when I turned it on. The screen is receiving a signal, but there's nothing but blackness.

After troubleshooting a bit, I found that resetting the CMOS allowed me to POST and get into the BIOS setup, but after changing the settings back to how I had them and hitting "save changes and exit" the system would immediately shut off, then restart ~2-3 seconds later and fail to POST again. This problem has never occurred before today. Nothing I know of has changed since yesterday when everything was working :mad:

Do I have a bad Mobo? I am still within Newegg's 30 day replacement period, so is that my best bet, or is there anything else I should try?
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You know, I was freaking out about a similar problem early into overclocking my build. All I got was blackness. I checked ram, reset CMOS a million (ok, not quite a million) times, unplugged everything SATA, disconnected and reconnected CPU fan. All I got was blackness, and no beeps.

So, I decided to pull out the manual to figure out what was wrong. Since no PC speaker is installed on the mobo by default, I found one in a box of other computer stuff, and plugged it in. I decided to follow instructions for once in my life and use the manual to diagnose my problem. It gave me the beep signifying a video card error. I checked my video card and it looked ok, power was connected etc., but then upon closer examination I noticed it wasn't quite in all the way.

I gave it a nice little push, and poof. Problems disappeared. Still running strong to this day. Have you connected a PC speaker to "beep diagnose"? It might not help at all but it's an idea.
 
Unfortunately, I don't have a pc speaker on hand. However, if you read my post, you will see that it is pretty clearly a mobo issue.

For instance, if I disconnect all of my HDDs except the boot drive so that I don't have to change the boot order in the BIOS (or anything else), I can get into windows. I am in fact typing this on my troubled computer right now.

The problem arises when I attempt to save changes in the BIOS - which results in the cold restart and failure to POST until the CMOS is reset again.
 
MasterTactician said:
Unfortunately, I don't have a pc speaker on hand. However, if you read my post, you will see that it is pretty clearly a mobo issue.

For instance, if I disconnect all of my HDDs except the boot drive so that I don't have to change the boot order in the BIOS (or anything else), I can get into windows. I am in fact typing this on my troubled computer right now.

The problem arises when I attempt to save changes in the BIOS - which results in the cold restart and failure to POST until the CMOS is reset again.
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Thats odd, almost acts as if your Battery is dead.

Larry
 
I'm about to boot my setup for the first time on monday. However, I CONTINUE to read about how there are like 6 BIOS now?

Which ones do YOU have and do you have problems with it? I'm basically trying to figure out which one is the "best" (whatever) to start with.

I'll be running P5Q Deluxe, 64bit Vista, Q6600, 4GB Dominator@1066(was on sale), and HD4870.

My plan is to maybe load the OS with 2GB RAM. Then download NB and SB drivers then do whichever BIOS I choose, update the OS. Install the 4870 drivers. Install any other drivers I might need (HP webcam). Then go back and add the 4GB and setup as 800MHZ in a 1:1 and proceed to overclock to 3.2 GHZ 400MHZ * 8 multiplier. (Does this sound correct?) (3200 because all I have is stock heatsink at the moment)

This is my first build ever so... any other suggestions/constructive criticism is appreciated.
 
I just read that on the P5Q Pro, you should manually set your memory voltage to 2.1v, is that correct rather than running it on auto? Also, what is the benefit of doing this?
 
Cmustang87 said:
I just read that on the P5Q Pro, you should manually set your memory voltage to 2.1v, is that correct rather than running it on auto? Also, what is the benefit of doing this?
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If you're overclocking your memory, it's always best to set the voltage to the manufacturer-recommended level to ensure stability.
 
Cmustang87 said:
I just read that on the P5Q Pro, you should manually set your memory voltage to 2.1v, is that correct rather than running it on auto? Also, what is the benefit of doing this?
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Mine runs stock at 800MHz. With my current overclock I have it at 900MHz, and I find that 1.94 does just fine. It's very efficient ram. On my old nVidia board it did 1000MHz on 1.95v. Stock voltage is 1.8. If I set it to auto, every motherboard I've put it in sends it 1.85, even though the specs and website indicate 1.8v. It will run stock with all 4x2GB sticks with 1.8v if I manually set it.

Find your minimum stable voltage that also gives you the best timings and MHz for your setup and overclocking preference. Less volts means more life. Memtest is your friend! Time consuming project, but worth it IMHO.
 
I recently hit the problem that a few others here are having: after saving BIOS settings I'd get one boot out of the board, then when I restarted or shutdown I was faced with a blank screen and fans whirring. I had to unplug the power and wait a few seconds, then go at it again and get one more reboot out of her. Every time this happened CMOS was cleared and this makes for a very tedious and unpleasant overclocking experience.

I reflashed the BIOS (I'm on 1201, actually using some guy's (ket) modified BIOS, 1201m he calls it) and got the same results, but I was doing the same thing every time: loading & saving OC profiles. I reflashed once more and then loaded the setup defaults immediately after booting the fresh BIOS. From here I booted stock settings once, then rebooted and saw that it all worked. I did not load any old OC profiles after that until I had created new ones from scratch and then saved those. I no longer have any problems whatsoever.

Hopefully this info can help you guys get things back in order. I don't think an RMA is necessary! Just keep fucking with it. ;)

edit: oh, and BIOS 1306 is absolutely useless for me. not even linpack/IBT stable at stock settings... forget OCing with it. of course ymmv.
 
That's the first report I've seen that claims P45 is poor for OCing C2Qs. They maxed out their qx9650 at 460fsb (x8) and feel that X48 is a better platform for quad OCs. I don't think they used enough nb core... they stopped at 1.32v.
 
samsonJS said:
That's the first report I've seen that claims P45 is poor for OCing C2Qs. They maxed out their qx9650 at 460fsb (x8) and feel that X48 is a better platform for quad OCs. I don't think they used enough nb core... they stopped at 1.32v.
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Yeah. That's wimpy. I'm using more than that on mine and temps and stability are all good. I think this is a fantastic board. I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. I'm looking into some new ram right now that Newegg has an incredible deal on. Think I'll be able to overclock it very well?? I need it to hit at least 1066, perhaps 1100 or so. What do you guys think?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227280

If any of you have experience with this stuff, I could sure use the advice. My A-Data stuff is running fine at 900MHz, but I'd like to be able to push things a little further.
 
Seems rather pointless to bother replacing 8GB of perfectly working RAM for an extra mild OC that you'll probably never notice in real world apps... Unless you're migrating some/all of your current RAM to another PC or something.
 
faugusztin said:
Freezer 7 is good as a basic cooler instead of the bad stock cooler, but not for overclocked 65nm quad core. So those temps are IMHO normal - if you want lower temps, you must buy a better cooler.
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This isn't actually the case if installed properly. A lot of people will comment on the AF7 without actually using one just because it's on the cheaper side ($25-$30), but if you dig around you'll find TONS and TONS of people running overclocked quads on these fine, especially with such a mild overclock. AF7 and TX2 are my two staple coolers depending on sales and which one I run low on stock on. They will both easily run a Q6600 at 3.0ghz without breaking a sweat. Those temps are too high for such a small OC and voltage bump.

The more expensive 120mm coolers will fare better above 3.5ghz, but is definitely not needed for 3.0Ghz.
 
lawrence131 said:
This isn't actually the case if installed properly. A lot of people will comment on the AF7 without actually using one just because it's on the cheaper side ($25-$30), but if you dig around you'll find TONS and TONS of people running overclocked quads on these fine, especially with such a mild overclock. AF7 and TX2 are my two staple coolers depending on sales and which one I run low on stock on. They will both easily run a Q6600 at 3.0ghz without breaking a sweat. Those temps are too high for such a small OC and voltage bump.

The more expensive 120mm coolers will fare better above 3.5ghz, but is definitely not needed for 3.0Ghz.
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+1

You are correct, at least my experience with the Freezer 7 pro supports this.
 
Impulse said:
Seems rather pointless to bother replacing 8GB of perfectly working RAM for an extra mild OC that you'll probably never notice in real world apps... Unless you're migrating some/all of your current RAM to another PC or something.
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Hehe. I agree with you. Sale's over and I didn't bite. :D
 
wanted to post in this thread, to share my experience with the P5Q-Pro

I'm running a Q6600 @ 3.6 (400*9) with 8GB of Gskill 4-4-4-12 ram (4, 2GB sticks) at 1:1 with Vista 64, and it's freakin awesome.

Q6600s are awesome... I can't believe I overclocked by 1.2ghz (2.4 to 3.6), on air cooling (Xigmatek), with 8GB of ram at tight timings (high multiplier of the Q6600 is awesome.) DDR2-800 ram, in spec, ftw.

Q6600 is the best bargin out there right now for CPUs.... in my opinion.

Mine is intel-burn-test perfect with the side of my case off (or the antec tri-cools on high). Prime stable, no matter what. I prefer to run my computer ultra-quiet (P182se), so I run all the fans on low. Temps are great. Leaving it at 3.6.

My VID is 1.275, and I'm running it at 1.38V.

Word.
 
Certainly great boards, been running my q6600 @3.4ghz (1.3750v) for ages now on the p5q deluxe, gonna try and push for 3.6ghz, load temps currently max out at 56,56,52,52 under a TRUE120 with 2 fans in push pull, may consider lapping to drop and even the temps a bit. Really pleased with the board after having a lot of issues trying to oc the cpu on an nvidia 680i.:)
 
Hey guys, I'm running a P5Q-E with my E6600 and I had some questions about the OC. I'm currently at 400x9 on my CPU with my RAM set at 1066mhz. I remember reading that it's better if teh FSB:RAM ratio is 1:1, could someone give me a quick explanation or confirmation as to why?
I'm currently running at 1066mhz with the "Auto" strap and a performance level of 7. I can drop the strap to 333 and run at 800mhz but only with a performance level of 9. My question is, is it better to keep a lower strap or have a lower performance level?

Thanks guys!
 
samsonJS said:
I recently hit the problem that a few others here are having: after saving BIOS settings I'd get one boot out of the board, then when I restarted or shutdown I was faced with a blank screen and fans whirring. I had to unplug the power and wait a few seconds, then go at it again and get one more reboot out of her. Every time this happened CMOS was cleared and this makes for a very tedious and unpleasant overclocking experience.

I reflashed the BIOS (I'm on 1201, actually using some guy's (ket) modified BIOS, 1201m he calls it) and got the same results, but I was doing the same thing every time: loading & saving OC profiles. I reflashed once more and then loaded the setup defaults immediately after booting the fresh BIOS. From here I booted stock settings once, then rebooted and saw that it all worked. I did not load any old OC profiles after that until I had created new ones from scratch and then saved those. I no longer have any problems whatsoever.

Hopefully this info can help you guys get things back in order. I don't think an RMA is necessary! Just keep fucking with it. ;)

edit: oh, and BIOS 1306 is absolutely useless for me. not even linpack/IBT stable at stock settings... forget OCing with it. of course ymmv.
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Have the same issue here on a P5Q-E. Although reflashing the BIOS, loading defaults and recreating profiles seems to work, it doesn't last.

Randomly, when I resume from standby, my BIOS settings are lost/corrupt and I can't boot. I then need to cut power and sometimes clear the CMOS with the jumper. Then I can reboot and enter setup, but changes do not save; I can only boot by pressing F2 and using default settings. Every time I reboot thereafter I get an error message, and must press F2.

Only way out I've found is to reflash the BIOS as described above. But within another week, whole thing starts over.

Board is new and battery seems to give a stable 3.3 V sing a multimeter.

Ideas?
 
Hi!

I have tried to connect my Western Digital MyBook 500 GB home ed that has an esata port to the I/0 of the P5Q-Deluxe using an 0,7 meter esata-esata cable without success. The MyBook is working fine when connected with usb. Anyone got a suggestion to what might be the problem? Am I using the wrong sort of cable? Is there a setting in bios that should be enabled?
 
JHW - I'm fighting my P5Q Deluxe's eSata port as well. I have not been able to get it to recognize any HD, using an enclosure (with a sata port) or connected directly to a bare drive. I do not have the means to test an eSata to eSata connection with that port, only eSata to sata. I'm still looking for some "magic" to make it work.
 
techpriest said:
so PCI-E Frequency = 100 now? I thought we had to set it to 101 so the board wouldn't overclock it when you oc the cpu?

Hey, guys can someone review my settings again. For some reason I was getting random video driver crash only in vista 64 before I updated bios to 1306.

-24hrs prime stable, 100 passes of linpack stable burn test, 12hrs hci memtest/memtest86+ stable.

-Haven't had the video crash since I updated bios, but I'm not sure if it's still there. The crash would happen with pcie @ 100 or 101 with c1e off or on and with performance level manual or auto..
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e8400/2x2gb gskill ddr2-800

AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 400
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 801
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (5-5-5-15)

DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: MANUAL PL11 ALL PULL-INS ENABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.25625 (1.24v CPUz)
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: AUTO
DRAM Voltage: 1.90
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SB Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
PCIE Spread Spectrum: DISABLED
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement: OPTIMIZED

C1E Suppport: ENABLED
Max CPUID Value Limit: DISABLED
Intel Virtualization Tech: DISABLED
CPU TM Function: ENABLED
Execute Disable Bit: ENABLED
Intel Speedsteb: DISABLED
Intel C-state: ENABLED
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Had the same issue with my P5Q Deluxe build over the weekend. I have Vista x64, Q9550(not OC'd), 2x2GB OCZ Reaper 800mhz 4-4-4-15 and a 4850. Had lots of video corruption issues and problems installing and launching games. CCC also randomly crapped out on me and I swapped out the 4850 for my 3870 and uninstalled and reinstalled the drivers and got the same issue. I also received 2 BSODs "Page_fault" and "IRQL". I'm also having issue with choppy video when using my ATI TV tuner as well.
I had BIOS 1306 and downgraded to BIOS 1103 and the issue is still there just more random. HD has SATA connection but is in IDE mode. I switched the HD from SATA Port 5 to Port 1 no resolution. The rest of my specs in sig. Anyone else having these issues and found a fix?

When I get home I will try reformatting and putting my HD in ACHI mode. I will also up the voltage to 2.1v on my memory since I changed the timings to 4-4-4-15

P.S.- Also is there a way to change the IRQ values besides the one for the Serial Port? I'm pretty sure I'm having a conflict somewhere.
 
IRQL BSOD's usually don't have anything to do with IRQ assigments, a whole bunch of things can cause that type of error, but most commonly it's faulty or mis-configured memory... Which in reality could be at the root of some of your other problems, video corruption could be memory related as well, and drivers are one of the first thing that craps out when you have memory errors (along w/the registry, and those page file errors, etc). Just a suggestion, but I'd run Memtest to rule that out.
 
Impulse said:
IRQL BSOD's usually don't have anything to do with IRQ assigments, a whole bunch of things can cause that type of error, but most commonly it's faulty or mis-configured memory... Which in reality could be at the root of some of your other problems, video corruption could be memory related as well, and drivers are one of the first thing that craps out when you have memory errors (along w/the registry, and those page file errors, etc). Just a suggestion, but I'd run Memtest to rule that out.
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Thanks for the fast response. I had these RAM sticks in a previous build and it ran perfectly fine and passed memtest with no errors. I also had my 3870 in a previous build no problems either although the 4850 is new and has 1GB GDDR3 memory which may cause an issue. It seems I only have the video corruption and freezing when textures are be loaded into RAM. I read all over that the P5Q is finicky with memory, in particular with RAM.

I have not adjusted the voltage on the RAM so its on auto. I have no clue how many volts the RAM is recieving at the moment but when I get home I will definitley adjust it to 2.0-2.1v since I am running at its rated tight timings of 4-4-4-15. Could undervolted RAM be causing these issues as well?
 
Well, if the RAM had been working fine for a while on a different build it's not likely it just suddenly went bad (though it's still very possible, it's happened w/Crucial ICs late in their production runs, with both their DDR2 and their DDR(1) )... Again though, the easiest way to make sure that it's still good and that the timing/voltages aren't at fault is to simply run Memtest on it and rule that out, since you already ruled the video card itself by swapping it out.

Setting the RAM voltage manually is wise as well, and worth doing before anything else, if you set the timings manually it's very possible it's being undervolted and yea, it could lead to erratic memory errors like those.
 
Impulse said:
Well, if the RAM had been working fine for a while on a different build it's not likely it just suddenly went bad (though it's still very possible, it's happened w/Crucial ICs late in their production runs, with both their DDR2 and their DDR(1) )... Again though, the easiest way to make sure that it's still good and that the timing/voltages aren't at fault is to simply run Memtest on it and rule that out, since you already ruled the video card itself by swapping it out.

Setting the RAM voltage manually is wise as well, and worth doing before anything else, if you set the timings manually it's very possible it's being undervolted and yea, it could lead to erratic memory errors like those.
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Thanks a million for the prompt responses Impulse. I will try it tonight and report back here. ;)
 
crabnebula said:
Have the same issue here on a P5Q-E. Although reflashing the BIOS, loading defaults and recreating profiles seems to work, it doesn't last.

Randomly, when I resume from standby, my BIOS settings are lost/corrupt and I can't boot. I then need to cut power and sometimes clear the CMOS with the jumper. Then I can reboot and enter setup, but changes do not save; I can only boot by pressing F2 and using default settings. Every time I reboot thereafter I get an error message, and must press F2.

Only way out I've found is to reflash the BIOS as described above. But within another week, whole thing starts over.

Board is new and battery seems to give a stable 3.3 V sing a multimeter.

Ideas?
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The issue recurred for me as well. I don't have it nearly as bad as you do, but perhaps it's a bigger problem than I thought it seemed. I tried to narrow down BIOS settings that triggered the bug but there doesn't seem to be a pattern. We should probably continue this discussion in a new thread.
 
hey guys where the hell do i turn that critical temp thingy off (the thing that shuts the board off at a certain temp)
 
redbonefish said:
hey guys where the hell do i turn that critical temp thingy off (the thing that shuts the board off at a certain temp)
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In the section with the cpu settings,c1e etc is something called "CPU TM Function". That is it. Not sure why you would want to disable it, but then I'm not sure why I disabled it either :)

Larry
 
Big Lar said:
In the section with the cpu settings,c1e etc is something called "CPU TM Function". That is it. Not sure why you would want to disable it, but then I'm not sure why I disabled it either :)

Larry
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LOL. I disabled it too.
 
samsonJS said:
The issue recurred for me as well. I don't have it nearly as bad as you do, but perhaps it's a bigger problem than I thought it seemed. I tried to narrow down BIOS settings that triggered the bug but there doesn't seem to be a pattern. We should probably continue this discussion in a new thread.
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Out of curiosity, are you using Asus's Six Engine program?

Haven't seen the previous posts reporting this issue, but indeed if there are several others experiencing it it would be worth a separate thread.

It's a big hassle but I'll probably end up RMAing the board if it continues.

Thing is I had a similar issue with a P5K-E that I owned before the P5Q-E. BIOS would no longer save any settings. Asus tech support had me test the battery and since it was OK they suggested RMA. No one suggested reflashing the BIOS, and the idea didn't occur to me at the time. I sold it when it came back from RMA.

My only hypotheses are a bad run of BIOS chips (and me being unlucky getting two defective ones in a row), a PSU issue (I have a Corsair HX520, made by Seasonic, like you) or some other strange hardware incompatibility...
 
6engine was installed but I've removed it. I thought it might be an ACPI issue until it happened after a BIOS flash without having booted Windows.

It's only happened once since I posted that it was fixed so I'm not going to RMA mine unless it gets worse. If I were in your shoes I would probably RMA it too.
 
kets m1402 bios in mine and so far(knocking on wood) so good.. i did run into a few crashes when i was pushing things a bit... What bios are you guys running?
 
BX_TECH_GOD said:
Thanks a million for the prompt responses Impulse. I will try it tonight and report back here. ;)
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So I reformatted and reinstalled. I upped the RAM voltage to 2.1 and I put the HD in AHCI mode. So far so good. The problem that I'm having thats continuing to persist is that I'm having issues with 2 specific games that I was able to install on a previous Vista build with a Gigabyte motherboard. Those games are BF2 and Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War: Winter Assault. Maybe this reply should go in the Gaming section but I would just like to know if anyone with these 2 games are able to get them to work with Vista x64 and their P5Q. Thanks!
 
Impulse said:
Seems rather pointless to bother replacing 8GB of perfectly working RAM for an extra mild OC that you'll probably never notice in real world apps... Unless you're migrating some/all of your current RAM to another PC or something.
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and considering the HUGE memory compatibility problems that the P5Q faces right now i would not change any working set of 8Gb memory that is working fine;

and remember: QVL list for 8GB setups on the P5Q is: non-existant:eek: so any 8GB setup that works is completely IMMV
 
geok1ng said:
and considering the HUGE memory compatibility problems that the P5Q faces right now i would not change any working set of 8Gb memory that is working fine;

and remember: QVL list for 8GB setups on the P5Q is: non-existant:eek: so any 8GB setup that works is completely IMMV
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Well ... all my sets of ram work fine in this board. I wasn't aware that it was having so many problems. Although I have noticed that the P5Q pro isn't able to push my ram quite as hard as the 780i I had. It's darn near as good, and memtest passes with flying colors, but I was hoping to be able to squeeze a bit more performance out of my ram than my old board.

900MHz is pretty good for 8GB on this board, right? Stock timings, and just slightly above stock voltage - 1.94v or something like that. Is that pretty decent?
 
Man I am loving my P5Q Deluxe....

Q6600 G0 SLACR (currently at 2.4 w/ stock fan) (still afraid of overclocking)
HD4870
Corsair Dominator 2x2gb @1066
Thermaltake Armor MX
Vista 64bit

GREAT GAMING AND VIDEO... not to mention multitasking like crazy...

HOWEVER, I can't seem to get speedfan to control my cpu fan... and if it IS really at 100%
I'm getting 63,62,59,59 as core temps at 2.5GHZ (using six engine) 1.2v.... running large fft's in prime95 for only minutes...(i realize these temps aren't necessarily the TRUE core temps but that still sounds pretty hot...)

I'm not sure that that is a good thing...

I'm new to building and tuning computers... so overclocking has me a bit worried. After all I am somewhat content right now...but I do want a little more... (simple goal of 3.2GHZ) I'd be happy...

any suggestions...


I'm thinking of running 8x400mhz then changing the RAM to 400mhz so I can run 1:1...

Does this sound right?
 
With the stock fan yes that sounds right... I doubt you'll be able to hit 3.2 with the stock cooler, sorry but that's just how it is.
 
I tried all 6 BIOSs and the most stable one for me so far was v803. Now I have everything up and running smoothly. I recommend this BIOS version until the next official one is released.
 
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