problems tuning into satalite channels

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DanBuh

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recently took my first step into htpc by buying a Hauppauge TV Tuner ... i have dish network .... and i have tried everything i can think of and still no go

ATSC won't Work, Clear QAM wont work im all out of ideas

i don't use a box for dish ... its in another room connected to a splitter that goes into my room ... maybe this is the problem?
 
A tuner card can't tune in Sat signals from Dish or DirecTV. It's not like cable TV or OTA. You'd need a box for it.
 
you need the box. use the svideo output to your hauppauge and an IR blaster to change the channels on the box.
 
one of my friends has diret tv and hooked his up ... worked first time under ATSC
 
DanBuh said:
one of my friends has diret tv and hooked his up ... worked first time under ATSC
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Your friend may have had a directv tuner which is availible in some systems (rare)
 
DanBuh said:
one of my friends has diret tv and hooked his up ... worked first time under ATSC
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i have never seen that. if you could get some more info from your friend, that would be awesome. what tuner, what service package, how many channels?
 
i have a box ... in the other room connected to a splitter that comes into my room ... i can control my own channels without changing the channel in the other room
 
Yes, using a remote provided by your dish service. dish network uses RF remotes and dual tuner boxes to service 2 televisions. You are still changing the channel on the box, just doing it through the walls.
 
how the hell is that any help ... i know what im doing ... i don't know why it isn't working ...or what i have to do to get it working
 
its help because the PC card cant press buttons on your remote, which is what is doing the channel changing. Also a PC based IR blaster wont help you through the walls. Can I let go of your hand now or do I need to step you through the rest too? nevermind, here is the rest, follow me now...

if you have a dish, you need a box to tune the encrypted signal. You then need an apparatus to change the channel on the tuner box. The PC card is no longer operating as a tuner, it is strictly an encoder. it takes the incoming signal and converts it to mpeg2 at the quality setting of your choice. If you have an IR based tuner box and line of sight you can use an IR blaster (such as a USB-UIRT) to have the PC send an IR signal to the box changing the channel. I do not know of an RF blaster. that isnt to say they dont exist, just says that I dont know of one.

all of this can be found with a few searches or some research as it is very basic HTPC info.


http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1259235&highlight=dish+tuner

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1275181&highlight=directv+tuner

link from sticky at top of forum: http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2374&Itemid=1
 
oh, and as for your friend being able to do it wiht just plugging a cable in directly from his satellite, or even just a cable from his tuner box with no IR or RF emitter, I cry BS until I get details of the setup.


EDIT: jeez, I feel like Crim...
 
Satellite signal can come directly into the computer from the dish -- I've got three cards hooked up to a dish at the moment, recording merrily away, with only a all-ports-power-pass splitter in the signal chain.

Whether you, too, can do this depends on whether the bird your dish is pointed at carries NON encrypted content or not. My country (NZ) has Freeview with unencrypted nationwide Satellite TV (DVB-S standard) beaming down from Optus D1, you'd have to look up Lyngsat to see if North America has any similar satellites.

You'll only need set top boxes in the signal chain if the signal is either encrypted or uses some truly bizarre encoding scheme.
 
IDversusEGO said:
oh, and as for your friend being able to do it with just plugging a cable in directly from his satellite, or even just a cable from his tuner box with no IR or RF emitter, I cry BS until I get details of the setup.


EDIT: jeez, I feel like Crim...
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LOL Glad it's not just me! :D

Dude. Your friend is either a lair or is using cable or something but I can tell you that he just doesn't plug his sat feed into a PC tuner and, presto! has TV on his desktop. Sat doesn't work like that.
DanBuh said:
how the hell is that any help ... i know what im doing ... i don't know why it isn't working ...or what i have to do to get it working
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Clearly you don't cause then you wouldn't be trying to agrue a non-existent point. You need a sat receiver connected via analog out to your tuner card. Plain and simple. :rolleyes:
 
alan.p said:
Satellite signal can come directly into the computer from the dish -- I've got three cards hooked up to a dish at the moment, recording merrily away, with only a all-ports-power-pass splitter in the signal chain.

Whether you, too, can do this depends on whether the bird your dish is pointed at carries NON encrypted content or not. My country (NZ) has Freeview with unencrypted nationwide Satellite TV (DVB-S standard) beaming down from Optus D1, you'd have to look up Lyngsat to see if North America has any similar satellites.

You'll only need set top boxes in the signal chain if the signal is either encrypted or uses some truly bizarre encoding scheme.
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The US isn't like New Zealand or Europe were they have free sat services so this is totally lost on anyone inside the US.
 
the sat recieve is connected .... with a cable coming from the box about 15 feet away into my tuner card ...
 
not getting any more help from me. you obviously havent done your base research, are offering conflicting information...
DanBuh said:
i don't use a box for dish ... its in another room connected to a splitter that goes into my room ... maybe this is the problem?
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DanBuh said:
the sat recieve is connected .... with a cable coming from the box about 15 feet away into my tuner card ...
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and being kind of a dick...
DanBuh said:
how the hell is that any help ... i know what im doing ... i don't know why it isn't working ...or what i have to do to get it working
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Only bit of help I'm giving at, totally done with this dude and his attitude: Try changing the channel to either three or four and see if you get a signal....
 
DanBuh said:
ATSC won't Work, Clear QAM wont work im all out of ideas
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DanBuh said:
one of my friends has diret tv and hooked his up ... worked first time under ATSC
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DanBuh said:
the sat recieve is connected .... with a cable coming from the box about 15 feet away into my tuner card ...
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DanBuh said:
how the hell is that any help ... i know what im doing ... i don't know why it isn't working ...or what i have to do to get it working
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I believe I see what the problem is. I went all "Clue" on this. Im Col. Mustard, in the Gallery, with the revolver.
 
I find it funny that both ATSC and QAM don't give him what he wants because they are totally the wrong format and yet he still persists with them thinking they'd work.

He guys! Think if I hook up an antenna to my QAM tuner I could pull in HBO HD and all that jazz? My friend does it so it should work too!!
 
CrimandEvil said:
I find it funny that both ATSC and QAM don't give him what he wants because they are totally the wrong format and yet he still persists with them thinking they'd work.

He guys! Think if I hook up an antenna to my QAM tuner I could pull in HBO HD and all that jazz? My friend does it so it should work too!!
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Would you get the pron channels all halfway scrambled too, but just enough to see nipple? :p
 
It surprises me too. I guess the OP is somewhere next to me in Magicland.... but wth I'd get that and Oprah's god forsaken channel instead of a little skin action is beyond me.
 
hi guise, I hookd ujp my Blu-ray playr to mai QAM tuner. Why cant I rekord to it!??! My friedn did it! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!?!?!1!!
 
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