Diablo III’ Designer Turns Tables, Judges Fans’ Screenshots (MTV Multiplayer)

PureBooYah said:
fanboy whining strikes again?

http://kotaku.com/5034244/blizzard-looking-for-new-diablo-iii-art-director
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Well I think Blizzard knows that they have to do right by the fans with Diablo III. If they don't they'll be crucified. That's part of the problem with waiting so long in between sequels and a ton of hype gets generated about it. Especially when it comes to a classic franchise like Diablo. It is essential that they get it right. They know this and they'll strive to make their fan base happy.
 
PureBooYah said:
fanboy whining strikes again?

http://kotaku.com/5034244/blizzard-looking-for-new-diablo-iii-art-director
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Why is everyone hating on people who have an opinion. I dont get that. Calling people names because they dont like the art direction is silly. I personally dont like it and the main reason is because it has already been done. If It looked better and much different than warcraft then I wouldnt be complaining. But seriously, if you could turn Wow into overhead view that is exactly what the art looked like in the diablo 3 trailers. I think that is pathetic that a company like blizzard can make three different art styles for their franchises. Everything doesnt need to look cartoon, juicy fruit edition.

Now that link says they are looking for a new art director. One can only hope.
 
FlyinBrian said:
Why is everyone hating on people who have an opinion. I dont get that. Calling people names because they dont like the art direction is silly. I personally dont like it and the main reason is because it has already been done. If It looked better and much different than warcraft then I wouldnt be complaining. But seriously, if you could turn Wow into overhead view that is exactly what the art looked like in the diablo 3 trailers. I think that is pathetic that a company like blizzard can make three different art styles for their franchises. Everything doesnt need to look cartoon, juicy fruit edition.

Now that link says they are looking for a new art director. One can only hope.
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Sorry if i offended you with the "fanboy whining," but fans of the Diablo series are whining/complaining at the art direction hence "fanboy whining." My personal opinion on the matter is: I don't care what it looks like. They could box up Diablo 2, call it Diablo 3, and I'd still buy it. I was just posting a link to a story that looked related at the time.

Jakalwarrior said:
A glimmer of hope!
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a glimmer of hope crashing to the ground? ;)

http://kotaku.com/5034395/diablo-iii-art-director-quits-game-remains-the-same

i guess i should have waited to post the first article :p
 
DAMNIT. Guess it will just be another good game instead of one of those that feels like a true gem.
 
Who are the fanboys? the ones who have an opinion about a video game in a video game forum? or the ones who kiss blizzards ass and tell them not to question the all mighty blizzard?
 
I've seen far more hostility from people who can't accept criticism of Blizzard than the people who dislike the art.
 
Well, it's official about the head of art direction leaving (on other sites they were not sure), but Blizzard claiming to still be sticking with the new art direction:

A Blizzard representative has confirmed to IGN in an email that Diablo III's previous art director, Brian Morrisroe, has left the company. The official response reads, "[Morrisroe] recently resigned to form a startup technology company (outside the game industry), which is why we've posted about the open position." As to whether or not the look of the game will change, the response continues, "This change won't impact the game…we're really pleased with the look and feel that Brian helped create for Diablo III, and the new person we bring onboard will work with the other artists on the team to maintain the art style moving forward."
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Link

Every other site has the same info about them being happy with the current art direction, but no one was sure whether the previous art director was even at the company. I've a feeling that, if Blizzard is insisting on staying the course with the current art direction, that perhaps this guy left on his own accord, not wanting to deal with the backlash if the game was released in it's current form, every Diablo fan went ape-shit and it turned out to be disastrous.

All just conjecture of course, since no one knows the reasons for his actually leaving the company all together, but perhaps his leaving was like rats leaving a sinking ship. If that's the case, it might just light a fire under their ass to make some changes.

I have serious doubts that it has "nothing to do with the response from fans". I've a feeling they're going to eventually change things up in terms of the art, and their stating their dedication to the new art style isn't going to last long.

If they did stick with the current design, as stated by Dan_D, they'll most likely be "crucified" by fans of the series in the form of extremely poor sales. At least, poor compared to what they would be if they'd changed and improved the art direction.
 
I'm not a fan of Diablo or MMOs, but I have played a little bit of the previous ones. But when I think of Diablo I'm thinking more of the harsh colors/tones of the photoshopped pics. You can have bright colors/environments while still using harsher tones/hues.

I also don't understand people saying that games today are too brown, Diablo isn't a new IP, its been around for a while and doesn't really need a technicolor dreamcoat :p
 
damonposey said:
And here is an example of someone who gobbles up anything pop-culture inspired businesses throw out.
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No, I just have no time for dark gothic art and the emo types that think they know how the game should look because after all they're the true fans and Blizzard should be pandering to them even though they haven't even seen a fraction of the whole game...

And if you think being dark and gritty is somehow the antithesis to pop culture you're sadly wrong.

Diablo III looks very stylish and refined, it's going to have a lot of mainstream appeal (something you lot seem to have a problem with) and is going to sell shitloads, get over yourselves. A few internet crybabies are not going to put a dent in sales.
 
Diablo II didnt sell well because of its art style and you like bright pastel games.... That is all I got out of your post. Perhaps you should look into a different game series? one not involving satan, blood, guts, gore, and dank dungeons? Diablo II sold plenty and is still on shelves for a fat price.

I am sorry but you sell lots of games by pandering to the fans... if 50,000 of them disliked the art style enough to sign a petition and blizzard decided to give an interview to respond.. perhaps the opinion is a little more widespread that just us "rabid internet fanboys"... You seem to like to ram your opinion down peoples throats while calling them names, dont fault us for stating and defending ours.
 
Belgain Roffles said:
I've seen far more hostility from people who can't accept criticism of Blizzard than the people who dislike the art.
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Just what I was thinking. Several people seem to act like Blizzard can do no wrong and they are upset when anyone points out something that Blizzard is doing that they don't like. The fact is the artistic style of of Diablo III based on current screenshots clearly shows a brighter and more colorful world more reminiscent of World Of Warcraft than Diablo I/II. Diablo I and II were super successful because the formula they had for those two games was appealing to a wide range of people. If they change the game too much to the point where it isn't recognizable as a Diablo game then fans of the previous two games won't accept it. Those are the people that are going to make or break the game sales wise. Blizzard would be wise to pay attention to what those people want.
 
Dan_D said:
Just what I was thinking. Several people seem to act like Blizzard can do no wrong and they are upset when anyone points out something that Blizzard is doing that they don't like. The fact is the artistic style of of Diablo III based on current screenshots clearly shows a brighter and more colorful world more reminiscent of World Of Warcraft than Diablo I/II. Diablo I and II were super successful because the formula they had for those two games was appealing to a wide range of people. If they change the game too much to the point where it isn't recognizable as a Diablo game then fans of the previous two games won't accept it. Those are the people that are going to make or break the game sales wise. Blizzard would be wise to pay attention to what those people want.
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I mostly agree, but it is Blizzard's game after all. And asking them to politely ignore a money-making machine like WoW is ludicrous. Personally, I don't care what it looks like. I didn't like Diablo I or II, and I doubt I will like Diablo III either. I think that Blizzard can and should make whatever game they want, and if it's no good, some people won't buy it. Either way, it's no skin off my nose.
 
Mark_Warner said:
I mostly agree, but it is Blizzard's game after all. And asking them to politely ignore a money-making machine like WoW is ludicrous. Personally, I don't care what it looks like. I didn't like Diablo I or II, and I doubt I will like Diablo III either. I think that Blizzard can and should make whatever game they want, and if it's no good, some people won't buy it. Either way, it's no skin off my nose.
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I get what your saying, but on the other hand pissing off fans of the original two games won't do them or that franchise any good.
 
Diablo III whiners ..... You lose! good day sir. If you really don't like the art direction, shut up and vote with your wallet.
 
Dan_D said:
I get what your saying, but on the other hand pissing off fans of the original two games won't do them or that franchise any good.
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Except they will buy the game anyway. It does not matter what Blizzard does.
 
Hmm so the fans peacefully signed a petition to let blizzard know they dont like the art and people are going ape shit over it like they denied their diety or something. I really hope you guys out there stand up for yourselves in rl and have opinions and have the guts to speak out even if its against the norm. I hope when voting for our next president you dont just believe all they tell you and do some research. I dont know but seeing this blind devotion to your blizzard God scares me somewhat.

With that said I love blizzard games, of course, but you have to realize just because we would like the art for each of blizzards games to be unique and not a rehash of the same colors and textures doesnt make us less intelligent or our opinions less valid than your own we just happen to disagree.
 
Dan_D said:
I get what your saying, but on the other hand pissing off fans of the original two games won't do them or that franchise any good.
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True, but my point is, gamers really need a reality check if they think that a company isn't free to do with their products whatever they please.

Of course, it is likely that this kind of issue will lead to rather a lot of people pirating DIII who otherwise may have purchased it.
 
Dan_D said:
I get what your saying, but on the other hand pissing off fans of the original two games won't do them or that franchise any good.
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anyone who's a fan of the game shouldn't be crying about brightness and colors and should worry about the gameplay that keeps people still playing diablo today. Hint: It's not because of the low lighting in dungeons.
 
Mark_Warner said:
True, but my point is, gamers really need a reality check if they think that a company isn't free to do with their products whatever they please.

Of course, it is likely that this kind of issue will lead to rather a lot of people pirating DIII who otherwise may have purchased it.
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While I know you're right, that would be a pretty weak justification for pirating a game. If you hate the colors that much you shouldn't play it at all.

Personally I don't care, I'm much more concerned with how StarCraft 2 will turn out ;)

And after watching the gameplay video, I have to say... it really does look at a lot like WoW, or at least what I've seen of WoW from occasionally watching someone else play for a few minutes. But it's not because of the colors, more because of the play style. The final battle of the video especially gave that feeling. "Hey let's all stand around and click on some huge thing until it dies or kills all of us."
 
Sabrewulf165 said:
While I know you're right, that would be a pretty weak justification for pirating a game. If you hate the colors that much you shouldn't play it at all.
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There are only weak excuses for pirating games. There is no good reason or justification.
 
Technoob said:
anyone who's a fan of the game shouldn't be crying about brightness and colors and should worry about the gameplay that keeps people still playing diablo today. Hint: It's not because of the low lighting in dungeons.
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I don't think you can argue that atmosphere isn't an important part of any game. Homeworld would not have been anywhere near as awesome without its exceptional soundtrack, or that Fallout 1/2 would have been nearly enjoyable without the campy humor.

That being said, I don't think many of the fans who dislike the look are saying they're not going to buy the game.


Mark_Warner said:
There are only weak excuses for pirating games. There is no good reason or justification.
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Come on, let's not go down that road and we all know where it leads. If it goes too far I might have to join in.
 
damonposey said:
This blizzard guy talks about contrast, and thats EXACTLY what us 'whiners' want. After running through a vibrant forest, and entering a tomb of the undead, there needs to be a contrast. but no, the vibrant colors are still down there, just slightly darker. Now THAT's boring.

Dungeons are dark and hopeless. When I descend into a cave or a dungeon, I want to have a feeling that there is something evil down there, that there's something to be alarmed about. Then when you exit the dungeon,and the colors come back, then it would be all the more satisfying. But that's not hows its going to be in d3. vibrant colors will be everywhere.

Also, I don't necessarily agree with the second pic either, but It's obvious that Blizzard isn't after atmosphere here, I guess that's what it comes down to. They might as well not try and put scary ambient music in dungeons either, they could put jonas brothers or hannah montana songs, it would be more appropriate to match the surroundings.
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This is a great post and I see nothing resembling whining about it. There is something to be said of more than just visually seeing saturated colors, a bit left to the imagination and psychological effect that cannot be seen. Many ADD gamers of today don't have much imagination so it's difficult for them to see what is significant in this matter. It's easier to write off any criticism as they do not realize the futility in arguing about subjective matter. They're going to make the game how they see fit. They also have to appeal to the most people and times have changed. If dark and atmospheric in the spirit of previous titles does not have appeal, they won't go there. They no doubt saw how well The Witcher sold so they are probably going in that direction.
 
They should just make the whole game dark as hell, then let me duct tape a torch to the end of my sword.
 
Forealz said:
http://pc.ign.com/articles/897/897244p1.html

New art director. I wonder if fan outcry had any part of this?

Regardless, Blizzard is not the same company I fell in love with.
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Yeah I'm sure that he formulated this entire plan to create his own startup in the past 2 weeks since fans have been whining...that seems like a well thought out career move.

Also, what has blizzard ever done to disappoint? Seriously, you'd think people would cut them a little slack after they've proven time and time again that they can make great games. Well actually...I wouldn't expect that from the internet, but I can at least hope...
 
Spaceman_Spiff said:
Yeah I'm sure that he formulated this entire plan to create his own startup in the past 2 weeks since fans have been whining...that seems like a well thought out career move.

Also, what has blizzard ever done to disappoint? Seriously, you'd think people would cut them a little slack after they've proven time and time again that they can make great games. Well actually...I wouldn't expect that from the internet, but I can at least hope...
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Put D2 on the back burner allowing massive amounts of cheating in closed Bnet, meanwhile it is still selling like hotcakes (pre 1.10). To this day they prefer to do massive all at once bannings for publicity instead of banning cheaters real time to prevent damage to the economy or other players experience.
They also took WoW and made it into raidcraft for some reason. Meanwhile pvpers get to play the same bgs for years... until! they got a couple arenas. All of which amounts to boring minigame pvp.
 
So now if somebody doesn't hate the art direction you're not a "real" diablo fan and don't stand up for youself in real life and don't have any opinions? This thinking is why I support blizzard in this issue.
People complaining about the graphics and colors with some screenshots is lame. Blizzard has always made games for a wide range of computers to run on, becuase they care about the actual gameplay mecahnics. If they make fun games they will sell. People find games like the diablo series, warcraft series including WOW and starcraft to be fun.
I know it's shocking. I respect the opinion of people who don't ike the art direction, however it seems like so many of the people with this opinion feel their opinion is superior to people who like the art direction.
I for one hope that they don't go crysis like on graphics. It only hurts the pc gaming community to make a game that only the top percentage of pc owners can play at a high level of settings because it alienates the casual gamer.
The thing with opinions is that you almost always only hear the negative ones. So 50,000 signed a petition. How many copies of diablo II have sold? 4 million copies and 1 million for LOD. Starcraft has sold in the 9 million copies range. I guess 50,000 isn't so large anymore.
Voice your opinion all you want but don't get upset when people have a different view than yours. I hope the game is fun, and because it's blizzard it probably will be. So get over it.
 
I think Blizz has been going downhill since Warcraft 3. A lot of talent has left, their once brilliant storylines are now just terrible, they have lost their edge.
 
Forealz said:
I think Blizz has been going downhill since Warcraft 3. A lot of talent has left, their once brilliant storylines are now just terrible, they have lost their edge.
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I really don't understand this? what talent, the ones who failed with hellgate?
 
Forealz said:
I think Blizz has been going downhill since Warcraft 3. A lot of talent has left, their once brilliant storylines are now just terrible, they have lost their edge.
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Are we playing the same Blizzard games? They have some amazing questlines in WoW.

Their talent that branched off has made Guild Wars which had a horrible story, granted it wasn't about the story there, and Hellgate which had amazing potential for a great story (the books were actually surprisingly good), but couldn't translate that into the game or gameplay.
 
Personally, I thought TFT destroyed the Warcraft storyline. WoW was beating a dead horse by that point.

Blizzard also jumped the shark with Brood War too, so who knows.
 
Forealz said:
I think Blizz has been going downhill since Warcraft 3. A lot of talent has left, their once brilliant storylines are now just terrible, they have lost their edge.
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The only game since warcraft 3 has been WoW and that has NO story.
 
Technoob said:
I don't think you've played wow. They've retconned the shit out of it and pissed off fans, but it does have an asston of lore and storyline.
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I have played WoW, up to 70. The usual WoW story is a patch that says "So and so has appeared from hiding is allowing you to make your way through his huge castle/fortress and kill all of his minions one by one" Only that has me pissed is that there probably won't be a warcraft 4
 
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