Can it be? 45 nm Deneb early look

I must have looked at the front page before it was posted because it wasnt there when I looked earlier today. :p
 
well at least the clocks are good. they still need some faster ipc though
 
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Anyone have a non ad-blocker news site with this info?
 
Can anyone read the original page enough to know what the cooling method was? If +0.2v is achievable with air then that's a good overclock. I haven't run that through a chip yet. Even +0.16v was pretty damn toasty with my s754 Venice.
 
Agena has 1.25V stock voltage, if Deneb has the same stock voltage then 2.8GHz OC from 2.2 GHz @ stock voltage is not bad actually.
 
DedEmbryonicCe11 said:
Even +0.16v was pretty damn toasty with my s754 Venice.
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I run +2.6v (1.66 vs. 1.4 stock) through my s754 Venice all day, every day and idle temps are in the mid-upper 30c range and mid 50c under load.

I think they were just using the stock hsf since the Tweaktown article doesn't mention anything about it. Perhaps the original article mentions it.

Sorry about the "old news" - didn't see the original post. Beat me by 7 hrs. :eek:

Thx for the direct link pxc - but it doesn't do me any good - I can't read Chinese! :D Cool to see tho.

SuperPi isn't one of AMD's strong benches so yes, 20s is "fast" - in comparison to other AMD cpu's. I'll be more interested to see what it does in other situations.
 
GTOViper said:
it's ... decent... but not good enough for AMD's latest and greatest...it's two years too late.
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i forgot superpi times means EVERYTHING. just like certain FPU tests that AMD does super well in, often besting Intels offerings means EVERYTHING too.

amd is doing a good job developing a platform, they have the graphics cards in check now, and maturing. a good chipset coming out, and despite a slower clock for clock cpu, things are improving.

self sufficiant platforms for amd seems like a great decision in my book.
 
I agree. Lets hope the changing of the guard at AMD will get things going again (Hopefully quickly).

Been waiting for an AMD 45nm Quad for some time now and have been trying very hard to fight the urge to get an intel QX, VERY hard.

When this thing comes out this may become my first water-cooled rig if I see competitive OCs. If it doesnt, Im not sure if Im going to get an intel, get it anyway (I waited this long) or wait yet again =(. Ill cross that bridge when it comes.
 
I forget where i read this but some guy with a phenom 9850 @ 2.8 be got almost the same super pi time. I'm going to try to dig that up, I read it in some forum a while back but what i think is important is that amd boosted l3 cache three fold to 6mb from 2mb current. That will certainly provide an fps boost in games.
 
DeadSkull said:
I forget where i read this but some guy with a phenom 9850 @ 2.8 be got almost the same super pi time. I'm going to try to dig that up, I read it in some forum a while back but what i think is important is that amd boosted l3 cache three fold to 6mb from 2mb current. That will certainly provide an fps boost in games.
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i dont think i was able to get 20s superpi times, but then again, i dont really remember running it when i got to 3.2, i'll try when i get home

EDIT: not quite 20 sec. :(

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I just had to buy a 790fx board since my 570sli is dying and couldn't afford to go intel when they are going to switch sockets soon and ram too. I really want amd to succeed in the midrange at least so I can stay with them. I've stayed with them long and if a 45nm phenom would just come out without using more than 100 watts I'd be happy, please amd make me stay with you!

k6-2 400
k6-2 500
duron 650
duron 800
athlon xp 1800+
athlon xp-m 2200
athlon 64 2800+
athlon 64 x2 3800+
athlon 64 x2 5000+ be

Never have bought intel and have always picked good old green.
 
A day late and a buck short????

I really, really hope Amd pulls a rabbit out of their hat with the 45nm Quads.:D
 
btw if you disabel javascript the anti adblocker thing doesn't work

tools->options->content in firefox, just uncheck enable javascript, load the page, read it, then renable javascript. this way you can stick it to the man and browse the page without ads!
 
I don't know how much we should expect from the die shrink alone, I am waiting for their new core to come out. phenoms are not bad processor, its that the intel ones are so much better
 
SuperPi is just a measure of single threaded speed. As such its a good thing to know when sizing up a CPU, but it's not the complete picture. For top scores, look at the LN2 cooled intel dual cores. If you want max single threaded performance, the AMD quad cores are not going to satisfy that itch.
 
sethk said:
SuperPi is just a measure of single threaded speed. As such its a good thing to know when sizing up a CPU, but it's not the complete picture. For top scores, look at the LN2 cooled intel dual cores. If you want max single threaded performance, the AMD quad cores are not going to satisfy that itch.
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Did you just serioulsy try to make a valid comment using ln2 as a basis for your argument:confused:

I'm about as interested in benchmark results from ln2 cooled chips as I am about the latest Brittney Spears drama.
 
sethk said:
SuperPi is just a measure of single threaded speed.
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Sort of, but i've read the working set of SuperPi 1M is about 8MB. Going from 2MB L3 to 6MB L3 probably helped out AMD the most in that test, and the larger cache will probably help out certain server loads too. AMD's L3 cache is still pretty slow though. An old 2MB cache Allendale can still beat that overclocked 45nm Deneb in SuperPi while running about ~600MHz slower, and of course that's with a slow FSB and no ODMC.
 
osalcido said:
Anyone have a non ad-blocker news site with this info?
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OT: How irritating is that?

It's not as if they are adding much to the content of the original forum post, but since they're linking to it they think they deserve some ad revenue. I'd happily disable it if they had some original content in the article.
 
DemonDiablo said:
Did you just serioulsy try to make a valid comment using ln2 as a basis for your argument:confused:

I'm about as interested in benchmark results from ln2 cooled chips as I am about the latest Brittney Spears drama.
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No I was not trying to. I apologize if the point wasn't clear, but my point was - SuperPi only uses one core. The fact that the world records in SuperPi are held by Core 2 Duos and not Core 2 Quads helps underscore that fact. I just mentioned LN2 because the world record holders used LN2 but the point I was really trying to make is quad core doesn't help in SuperPi, that's all. Core 2 Quads or AMD Quads for that matter can also reach very high clock speeds under LN2, but the Duos have the highest clock speeds, and that helps them crush all quads in SuperPi.

In reality, some of the benefit of AMD's quad core architecture is the availability of 4 cores to crunch on a variety of day to day or modern gaming / encoding / whatever tasks, and I was really trying to say - don't read too much into poor SuperPi scores, Deneb could still be a decent quad core CPU.
 
Christobevii3 said:
I just had to buy a 790fx board since my 570sli is dying and couldn't afford to go intel when they are going to switch sockets soon and ram too. I really want amd to succeed in the midrange at least so I can stay with them. I've stayed with them long and if a 45nm phenom would just come out without using more than 100 watts I'd be happy, please amd make me stay with you!

k6-2 400
k6-2 500
duron 650
duron 800
athlon xp 1800+
athlon xp-m 2200
athlon 64 2800+
athlon 64 x2 3800+
athlon 64 x2 5000+ be

Never have bought intel and have always picked good old green.
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I am feeling the same way. My path goes like:
K6-2 500
Celeron 333 (sorry, it was a really bad ass overclocker)
Athlon Slot A 650
Duron 800
Duron 1200
Duron 1300 (a friend bought the 1300 and couldn't use it, so I gave him my 1200 and used his 1300)
Athlon XP 2100
Athlon XP 2400
Athlon 64 3200
Athlon 64 X2 4600+

I might have missed one or 2 in there, but they were AMDs. I am really hoping AMD pulls there crap together, I really like them for there Value/Performance and a couple times in there there performance was better than Intel and at a cheaper price, I am looking forward to those days again.
 
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