I ordered mine last month, got a 3ms box, but have a P-MVA panel. No color change, though there is some contrast change. Mfg date of 2007.11.
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SOYO 24" DYLM24D6 Official Thread
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Just wanted to point something out for my experience with this monitor, I am getting alot of "tearing" on this monitor that I did not get when I had my 22" LG lcd. I thought it could of been a defective monitor so I hooked up the other one (got 2 of them from different stores) and it is still happening alot.
Will still continue to try and fix it but the guys over at evga are telling me its my monitor thats causing this.
Will still continue to try and fix it but the guys over at evga are telling me its my monitor thats causing this.
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I'm pretty sure they're wrong -- it's in their best interests to blame your other hardware, after all. And it's not tearing -- please stop calling it tearing. Tearing is a well known term for a specific issue, and that's not the issue you're having.
Well evga told me that its most likely the issue aswell as a forum admin, I dont see why they would lie. And they did say what I am seeing is "tearing" and thats honestly what it looks like but I could be wrong as I had never had this happen.
The fact that it did not happen on my 22" LG and is happening on both of my soyo's is a bit odd, dont get me wrong I could have 2 defective soyo's but I dont know the odds of that.
Will try and run just a vga cable and see if it still happens, I have another lcd at the office I can test it out on and that will tell me right there if its the monitor or not.
Sorry I am not a "pro" at this but I am learning what I can...
Thanks for the help
Is this what you mean by "Tearing" ??
I see a lot of phase flickering with my soyo hooked to my Laptop with VGA D-SUB.
I bet a dvi-hdmi connection would solve the problem.
Hey Noxlord,
That is exactly what I am seeing , it only happens when something moves across the screen.
I dont think this monitor supports hdmi, just vga and dvi and I'm currently running dvi.
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I checked my blacklevels after calibrating some more... I can see the difference between the #1 and #2 boxes, and up to #253... (for whites)
I only lose it after #254/255
Atleast on my main (11/07) monitor... my 7/07 isn't as good...
I only lose it after #254/255
Atleast on my main (11/07) monitor... my 7/07 isn't as good...
I'm not really new here I just can't remember my password nor does the system recoginize my two emails I use. lol
Anyways, I've been in the market for a new monitor. I had a dell 2407 back before the HC and sold it to a friend for some cash and in trade for his 2005fpw. Anyways, always kicked myself in the ass for that but here I am, itching for another 24+ monitor but on "wife budget" lol.
So I came here to get the jiff on monitors. Hardforum always had a good community(almost too good lol) for displays. Came across this thread and thought I'd give the soyo a try.
Went to an office max and all they had was 2 displays, both 3ms boxes. So I picked the one that had the oldest shipping label on it, 02/08. Get it home and the display itself was built in 12/07. Do the tests and it's a TN. Still looked decent but I just don't care for TN displays. Well after a few hours of using it I go to play a game and it starts buzzing. The buzzing got louder to the point I thought it was going to explode. Packaged it up and took it back needless to say.
So i tried two other stores in my area. The first one had only 3ms, the second one had two 3m and one 6ms. So I grabbed it. Got home, hooked it up, looked great. 2 dead/stuck pixels, livable for me. So not bad for $300. That is until I left in on for hours on end. Woke up to my suprise, lots of stuck(dead, i dunno) pixels. So again, back to the store and done with Soyo.
Start looking at alternatives, all TN, all hovering around $500. Nearly double now that the Soyo is $279. So I'm out and about today on the other side of town and I almost get the newer 24" samsung. Being I'm spending more then I want/can, I decided to grab lunch and think about it. I happen to see a OM and shoot in, sure enough they have about five 6ms models for $279. Think this is half of what I'm about to spend and not a tn panel, it is worth the hasstle. So a grabber another.
Have it hooked up, 1 stuck(dead?) pixel two inches from the top, near center. Kinda bad spot but I'm not sweating it. I calibrated to my 2005fpw as close as I could side by side and man does this monitor look gorgous. Lets just hope that it doesn't have any of the QC issues of the first two I had.
btw, my settings are,
11/07 model:
Brightness - 36
Contrast - 44
R-B-G - 40
This is just trying to get it to look like my 2005fpw.
Anyways, I've been in the market for a new monitor. I had a dell 2407 back before the HC and sold it to a friend for some cash and in trade for his 2005fpw. Anyways, always kicked myself in the ass for that but here I am, itching for another 24+ monitor but on "wife budget" lol.
So I came here to get the jiff on monitors. Hardforum always had a good community(almost too good lol) for displays. Came across this thread and thought I'd give the soyo a try.
Went to an office max and all they had was 2 displays, both 3ms boxes. So I picked the one that had the oldest shipping label on it, 02/08. Get it home and the display itself was built in 12/07. Do the tests and it's a TN. Still looked decent but I just don't care for TN displays. Well after a few hours of using it I go to play a game and it starts buzzing. The buzzing got louder to the point I thought it was going to explode. Packaged it up and took it back needless to say.
So i tried two other stores in my area. The first one had only 3ms, the second one had two 3m and one 6ms. So I grabbed it. Got home, hooked it up, looked great. 2 dead/stuck pixels, livable for me. So not bad for $300. That is until I left in on for hours on end. Woke up to my suprise, lots of stuck(dead, i dunno) pixels. So again, back to the store and done with Soyo.
Start looking at alternatives, all TN, all hovering around $500. Nearly double now that the Soyo is $279. So I'm out and about today on the other side of town and I almost get the newer 24" samsung. Being I'm spending more then I want/can, I decided to grab lunch and think about it. I happen to see a OM and shoot in, sure enough they have about five 6ms models for $279. Think this is half of what I'm about to spend and not a tn panel, it is worth the hasstle. So a grabber another.
Have it hooked up, 1 stuck(dead?) pixel two inches from the top, near center. Kinda bad spot but I'm not sweating it. I calibrated to my 2005fpw as close as I could side by side and man does this monitor look gorgous. Lets just hope that it doesn't have any of the QC issues of the first two I had.
btw, my settings are,
11/07 model:
Brightness - 36
Contrast - 44
R-B-G - 40
This is just trying to get it to look like my 2005fpw.
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Mine's still going strong after normal daily use for about ... 3, 4 months now? No buzzing, no black screens, no issues of any kind.
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It seems to take a while for most people to get good MVA panels
I got lucky, I got zero dead pixels, almost no backlight bleeding, no buzzing, everything is perfect with my two screens.
The ONLY problem I have is that the stand on my older one (7/07, bought in 9/07) is taller than my (11/07, bought in 4/08) by about 2-3mm so it sticks up a bit higher than the other one, once I get a dual-LCD mount that shouldn't be a problem
I got lucky, I got zero dead pixels, almost no backlight bleeding, no buzzing, everything is perfect with my two screens.
The ONLY problem I have is that the stand on my older one (7/07, bought in 9/07) is taller than my (11/07, bought in 4/08) by about 2-3mm so it sticks up a bit higher than the other one, once I get a dual-LCD mount that shouldn't be a problem
Damn, looks my laptop might not be the problem then...
I picked up one on Saturday, went back Monday for the extra $20 drop in price. Build date Sept 07 in a 6ms box. So far no dead pixels, COD4 and everything else looks fantastic. Crossing my fingers that it stays that way. Very happy. Thanks for all the info on this monitor.
Same here, but I had the fortune of having a complete hole-in-the-wall Office max near me that frankly I'm amazed (and after getting this Soyo) grateful is still open. MVA and flawless on the first shot, 11/07 manufacture date so not ancient either
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Yea it was a 40 minute drive to mine, but I sold my FW900 the same day to a guy about 20 minutes from the office-max, so I just made the drive and took the cash from that and bought a Soyo, got super-lucky in getting a perfect one, then I ordered online 4 months after they started switching to TN's and I still got lucky a.) in getting a MVA and b.) in getting a perfect one...
I was [-] close to buying a third one, but realized It'd be kinda silly, I've been looking to get an HDTV anyways... Toshiba has a really nice 32" 1080p for around $800 now, just came out...
I was [-] close to buying a third one, but realized It'd be kinda silly, I've been looking to get an HDTV anyways... Toshiba has a really nice 32" 1080p for around $800 now, just came out...
I ordered from the website on sunday (the day it went on sale at 279) and just got it today. It's a 6ms box, manufactured 11/07. w00t! Looks like if you live on the east coast (or maybe it doesn't matter where you live), if you order from officemax.com, it ships out of the Bristol, PA warehouse. Somehow I doubt I got the last P-MVA box there.
Ordering online may give better odds to those who're still looking!
Ordering online may give better odds to those who're still looking!
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I'm loving this monitor! I just bought a spyder 3 and will post a SOYO profile soon. The monitor gets way better after proper calibration! I'm also using a new DoubleSight S-IPS monitor right next to the Topaz and franky I'm having a hard time coming up with reasons to keep it when this monitor works so well for less than half the price! The DS still has a big edge on color, but it's only really useful for photo printing and viewing. What's great about the Topaz too is that it works really well in the vertical position, the color and contrast seem to stay very consistant.
I look forward to your calibration profile ...
Ok great but what are you supposed to look for then I did the lagoon angle test and all letters are equal no red just plain colors no red or any discoloration at all but all words are visible as well.unfortunately they only show what its not supposed to look like. soyo stated that my 3 ms 400 nits monitor is a m-va panel [2007/12] I checked pictures of va and tn models together but each one has a different image on it and one (tn) is much farther away than the other. sorry but thats no good to compare them
I have 12 days left to return my monitor so any help is appreciated
now one other note is if it is a tn panel how bad is it compared to all these other brand name that have tn panels as well ?
Oh and my stand is fine even if i hit the table real hard the screen does not even slightly wobble
P.S. what impressed me was the fact I phoned soyo's 1-800 # and it rang 3 times and then got Thank you for calling Soyo inc my name is ....can I help you ?
Nice stand, possible to get a front view of the whole thing?
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They're capable of the resolution. It's a scaling issue ith the 360 (and possibly the PS3, not sure). This is a known issue, and yes, it has been mentioned and confirmed several times. The 360 will not output 1080P to this monitor.
It could not be easier really, the difference between MVA and TN is soo blatant that you can tell just by looking at the Menus without even plugging it in. If its MVA, it stays blue looking from below, but will distinctly turn green with the TN's Soyo uses.
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Nice Neo flex Strid3!
Question: Does the monitor clear the table if you rotate it into portrait view? The only ones I can find that look like that say they are for 20" monitors.
Question: Does the monitor clear the table if you rotate it into portrait view? The only ones I can find that look like that say they are for 20" monitors.
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I have the stand and yes it will. In order to get it in portrait orientation you have to tilt the monitor back and lift it all the way up or it won't clear when it turns, but it's not an issue unless you turn it a lot for some reason.
I posted this before, but it's buried within this thread: See last 2 images below.
Just wanted to show the difference between TN and P-MVA versions of SOYO.
I got both. I returned the TN version. The difference was astounding, especially when looking at a black screen, the TN version turns to grey at even a slight angle from perpendicular.
************ TN version shown below:
************ P-MVA version below:
************ TN vs. MVA/PVA Test link below:
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/viewing_angle.php
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thanks for the reply
but do you mean looking at the screen from the bottom up with no signal and only the OSD menu displayed right ?Occasionally, after coming out of sleep mode, either one of my two MVA 24D6's will show red or green dots in certain dark shades. I have to power cycle the monitor 1-4 times to get it back to normal. I can also reboot to clear it.
Here's a shot of of a gradient, which groups them together in vertical lines. In normal scenes, they're scattered around as individual dots.
Video card is an ATI Radeon X1900xtx.
Also, if anyone is interested, I made a useful image to aid in initial brightness and contrast adjustments:
http://webpages.charter.net/dwarner2/MonSet1.jpg
The black numbers in the center are the grayscale value ranges of the ovals. You're doing very well of you can get the 250 end of the top one to show. I had to compromise since I wanted the brightness set to lower than sunburn levels, so only 15-240 range has the dark end clearly distinct from the background. (0)
Here's a shot of of a gradient, which groups them together in vertical lines. In normal scenes, they're scattered around as individual dots.
Video card is an ATI Radeon X1900xtx.
Also, if anyone is interested, I made a useful image to aid in initial brightness and contrast adjustments:
http://webpages.charter.net/dwarner2/MonSet1.jpg
The black numbers in the center are the grayscale value ranges of the ovals. You're doing very well of you can get the 250 end of the top one to show. I had to compromise since I wanted the brightness set to lower than sunburn levels, so only 15-240 range has the dark end clearly distinct from the background. (0)
Been a bit over a month with my Soyo, and no problems yet. I am happy with the stand, b/c it sits close enough to the height I want, and I don't move my monitor around often.
Why spend more on a TN?
We are going the MVA route.
Why spend more on a TN?I'm gonna have to blame your videocard. I have a similar, infact the exact same problem coming out of sleep on a flashed 7800GS running on a Powermac, have to turn the monitor on and off to fix it. The reason I blame the card; this is on my Dell 2407WFP and when its plugged into my windows xp box with an HD3850 it never ever does this.
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I had the same issue, it turned out to be my DVI cable...
I've been using the same 8800GTS for a long time, and when I first got my first Soyo it did that for a few months, then I bought a bigger/nice DVI cable from monoprice and that fixed it...
I didn't even bother hooking my 2nd Soyo up to the stock cable, had one from monoprice a few days before I got that one
mattcham thanks for reposting that however aparently 2007/12 models were a mix of m-va and tn screens and the m-va were indeed 3 ms (gray to gray) the 6ms were 3 ms as well only they don't quote the grey to grey reponse time on the box but they did have 500 nits instead of 400 nits brightness
EDIT so much for reliable sources my soyo is indeed TN however at least it was a high end panel as it passed test's that low budget TN screens should fail. I contacted future shop where I had bought it and they will exchange it for free or if they can't get the model I was supposed to get honor a full refund (incl shipping costs)
EDIT so much for reliable sources my soyo is indeed TN however at least it was a high end panel as it passed test's that low budget TN screens should fail. I contacted future shop where I had bought it and they will exchange it for free or if they can't get the model I was supposed to get honor a full refund
(incl shipping costs)Hmm, which makes something along the DVI connection. My occurence happened using using the same aftermarket cable over both computers, so the DVI plug on the 7800GS is prob the cause.
The only thing I hate about this monitor is the source switch (in the OSD). I would much rather have the highlight button be a source switch, as "MODE" would indicate! I'm wondering if it would be possible to mod a source switch by hooking an old programmable SNES controller to the OSD controls