9800gtx running like $%*$

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babygiorgio1

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i used my evga step up from a 8800gt to 9800gtx and performance is utter crap (excuse my language). i tried the 174.74 and 174.85 drivers. i also used driver cleaner to get rid of the previous drivers so i dont think theres a problem with my installation process. i tried 2 games to test fps, cod4 and a game called Overlord - Raising Hell. i think i hit 20fps tops.
any help/suggestions is appreciated.
my specs are:
e6600 stock speed
9800gtx stock speed
2gigs ram
vista ultimate


update: i scored a 3.7 for graphics in windows experience index
 
Wow thats concerning considering my 9800 GTX just arrived today. I upgraded from a 8800 GT as well. I'm sure something is wrong, I hope it's not your card. Which MB and PS do you have? I'm going to install mine tonight, I'll let you know if I have similar problems. I have not run Vista on anything but my Laptop so no help there.
 
there's virtually no difference in power requirements/type of mobo over the 8800gt.
my ps unit is a generic 550watts
and my mb is an asrock 775Dual-VSTA
 
I'm thinking there could be a problem because your PCIe x16 is only running at x4. What motherboard are you using?

Also, I wonder why your clock is a couple MHZ off from stock. I haven't seen that before from GPU-Z. Usually its pretty accurate.
 
I second the x4 problem. I think the 8800GTS's had a problem running at x1 that was very similar to this. IIRC, some motherboards like the card in the one slot, the first slot. Make sure it's in the correct PCI-e slot. I'm not sure, but maybe something is wrong in your BIOS?
 
Your motherboard is the most likely cause. Those AGP/PCI Express boards were always a bit flaky. Were you experiencing performance problems with your 8800GT?
 
babygiorgio1 said:
absolutely none with my 8800gt. it ran flawlessly in cod4 at 1680x1050 all settings maxed out.
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My guess is that the 9800 GTX does not like being run at 4x for whatever reason. I don't see why the 8800 GT wouldn't have the same problem, they are both very similar cards. That said, I think you would do well to replace the motherboard with something more appropriate to it. Personally I'd recommend a decent P35-based board. Maybe the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L. It's about 90 bucks.
 
That board is not longer a realistic option with new, higher end cards. You need to replace it. I don't see a work around coming out -- that board has been a royal pain in the ass for a number of people for quite some time now. A new board will run you ~$60 AR if you wait for a sale, or $80 right now, and 2GB of DDR2-800 can be had for ~$40, less if you look around. I realize that ~$120 isn't "nothing", but it's not a ton. Time to move forward.
 
silent-circuit said:
That board is not longer a realistic option with new, higher end cards. You need to replace it. I don't see a work around coming out -- that board has been a royal pain in the ass for a number of people for quite some time now. A new board will run you ~$60 AR if you wait for a sale, or $80 right now, and 2GB of DDR2-800 can be had for ~$40, less if you look around. I realize that ~$120 isn't "nothing", but it's not a ton. Time to move forward.
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Heck, Its even cheap compared to a $300 video card that you can't use properly! Definitely a worthwhile upgrade.
 
Def the PCI-e slot. My buddy has a p5b-deluxe which will sometimes drop to 1x and his frames take a huge hit. Needs x16 man.
 
babygiorgio1 said:
as mentioned my m/b is an asrock 775dual-vsta. it doesn't support pcie x16. it maxes out at 4x.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=775Dual-VSTA&s=775.
good question regarding the clock speed.
i took the screens after i was messing around with the bios to see if i can fix the problem and i overclocked my system. it didnt have any effect on performance. i usually run a stock speeds btw.
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Wow. That's a real interesting mobo you've got there. Honestly, that was great back when PCI-E was relatively new and compatibility was a must.

But like the others said, it's time for an upgrade. DDR2 is so low-cost now that it is easily affordable, even for high-end gaming RAM.

Yeah, running PCI-E 4x with that card (especially NVIDIA cards) is going to give it a large performance hit (I wouldn't think THAT big of a hit though). ATI cards don't take that kind of a hit when running on PCI-E 1x to 8x, but I don't think you want to switch cards.
 
babygiorgio1 said:
there's virtually no difference in power requirements/type of mobo over the 8800gt.
my ps unit is a generic 550watts
and my mb is an asrock 775Dual-VSTA
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actually.. there is a difference in power consumption..

the 9800 GTX draws more power

http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/14524/10

just looking at BFG requirements for the 9800 GTX (not OC version)
and the 8800 gt.. the power requirements differ
so it should also apply to evga
 
it an 8% difference, so it is virtually the same.
if i do upgrade i will most likely get next gen m/b and ram. and im hoping to upgrade sometime in june.
any suggestions?
 
Yeah. Your "next gen" RAM is going to be stupid expensive for the foreseeable future. Forget DDR3.

Also, if your PSU is honestly 'generic' it need to be replaced as well. Risking a $300+ card and ~$150 CPU with a $25-50 piece of junk PSU doesn't make sense.
 
...friends don't let friends buy Foxconn. Pay the additional $20 for an Abit or Gigabyte P35 instead. You won't regret it. No one should be buying a 965 based board at this point anyway.
 
Well since he has an Asrock mobo, i figured he wants somethign that doesnt cost a lot.


I dont see anything wrong with Foxconn.

for 60 bucks and its just 50 bucks after rebate. I wouldnt mind getting it if i needed one.

save 50 bucks and use it towards something else like Ram or videocard
 
babygiorgio1 said:
my specs are:
e6600 stock speed
9800gtx stock speed
2gigs ram
vista ultimate
my ps unit is a generic 550watts
and my mb is an asrock 775Dual-VSTA
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babygiorgio1 said:
there's virtually no difference in power requirements/type of mobo over the 8800gt....
...it an 8% difference, so it is virtually the same.
if i do upgrade i will most likely get next gen m/b and ram. and im hoping to upgrade sometime in june.
any suggestions?
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I don't mean to be a dick, but you are very naiive to think that you could run an e6600 and a 9800gtx on a generic PSU.
Where's the logic in that? Let's see, i'm gonna put $500+ worth of high end equipment be powered by a $30 Power Supply. POWER SUPPLY!?! The piece of hardware that supplies all the needed electricity to run your high end pc. Power that needs to be effeciently delivered to all parts at all times other wise there is major risk of failure.

Get yourself a name brand power supply! Look to the future when purchasing as well. Do you usually upgrade piece by piece? if so, plan to carry this one through to the next pc or longer. Get a 750w+ name brand. Buy PCPower&Cooling, OCZ, Antec. Those are the 3 i recomend.

and BTW, everyone else is right, your mobo is definately the major cause of your grief. Until the power supply kills something else.
 
I don't generally recommend Antec or OCZ for PSUs, due to past questionable decisions that could all too easily be repeated.

Corsair, Seasonic, Silverstone, Etasis, Zippy, PC Power & Cooling, Enermax Galaxy series, Thermaltake Toughpower series. Some Antecs are ok -- namely the Earthwatts and True Power Trio lines, but I generally recommend others first. Some OCZs are also OK, but their GameXStream line is not very good.
 
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