Swiftech H2O-220 Compact CPU Liquid Cool Kit

Haven't seen any results of any testing yet, but it looks to be a good competitor in the pre-packaged all-in-one market segment; perfect for those just getting started with WC.
 
Oh I didn't realize they made a double rad version of this guy, I thought it was only single 120's. It should perform well, but I'd still rather have the flexibility of the apex ultra kit for a few more dollars. But if you're looking for a max performance all in 1, that's probably one of your best options.
 
Mine arrives tomorrow, so I'll have some numbers this weekend barring any issues.
 
questions:
1) does the green coils REALLY need to be there for kink-prevention?
2) can you recommend a red coil substitute?
3) what replacement fan would you recommend?

many thanks
 
raygan_gamer said:
questions:
1) does the green coils REALLY need to be there for kink-prevention?
2) can you recommend a red coil substitute?
3) what replacement fan would you recommend?

many thanks
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1. You can also use other kinds of coils, just make sure when you purchase new ones to get the outer diameter of the tube correct, otherwise it won't help one bit.
2. See #1
3. I would get some Yate Loon D12SL fans, they are the best combination of quiet and performance even at 7 volts.
 
I'm using the pump/block assembly from this kit. I find it to have excellent volume and pressure, but I find the pump to be noisy. It's spinning at close to 4000rpm, and its hard mounted to the motherboard. Anyone think I could try and slow the pump down to "tune" the whine. Its just at the range of annoyingness.
 
Yes, this pump is a little loud compared to my prior DD pumps.
Other than that it's working really good. I bought the pump/block and the 2x120 rad/res separetly and used tygon tubing, koolance fittings, swiftech pelted gpu block on 8800gtx, and koolance black coils. The cpu (QX9650) oc'd to 4ghz at 1.47vcore runs idle in the mid to high 20's and max i've seen load is around 50....
 
K1tty said:
Yes, this pump is a little loud compared to my prior DD pumps.
Other than that it's working really good. I bought the pump/block and the 2x120 rad/res separetly and used tygon tubing, koolance fittings, swiftech pelted gpu block on 8800gtx, and koolance black coils. The cpu (QX9650) oc'd to 4ghz at 1.47vcore runs idle in the mid to high 20's and max i've seen load is around 50....
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Holly shit - peltier block? So how is the temp of you gtx? So gpu and cpu is in one loop with this swiftech block/pump and one double 120mm radiator? and you have OCed your quad to 4GHz for 24/7 and have idle temp in 20's? Dont tell me you OCed your GTX as well; in this loop? :) I just bought this pump but not yet installed... I'm egtting so excited about this after your reply:)
 
Yeah.. I was quite impressed too. My last h20 setup was much more extreme (dd pumps, 3x 120 rad, 1/2" id tubing etc). I run my cpu at 4.0ghz 24/7 at 1.47vcore. The 8800gtx is in the loop after it and is only oc'd to 660mhz 1000 ram. Above this seems to be voltage inhibited and I don't really want to mess with a v-mod. Depending on the ambient temp I have seen the 8800gtx idle between 25c and 30c (ambient is usually around 70F). When playing crysis it seems to max out around 60c or so. When playing I usually put my fans on max (loud), and when idle or playing WOW I usually have them at medium (same loudness as the pump so its no additional noise). What I have been contemplating for a while now is to install a single 120mm rad/res (from the h20 120 kit) and put the vga on its own loop. I wonder how much of a drop i would see......
 
Also, seeing that you have a dual core you will likely get slightly lower temps.
My friend has a e8400 and a similar setup and his temps are quite a bit lower.
 
LanPirate1 said:
I'm using the pump/block assembly from this kit. I find it to have excellent volume and pressure, but I find the pump to be noisy. It's spinning at close to 4000rpm, and its hard mounted to the motherboard. Anyone think I could try and slow the pump down to "tune" the whine. Its just at the range of annoyingness.
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I'm running the ApogeeDrive with a Thermochill PA120.3 and Scythe S-flexes and love the clean, simple install but ran into a bit of whine as well.

Finally hooked the pump to my Sunbeam fan controller and found that at full whack (which I believe is somewhere around 11.5v) the pump runs at @3500rpm (reported by Everest).
Dialing it down to @ 1750 rpm completely silenced the pump and only resulted in a 1-2°c temp rise...a tradeoff I find acceptable.
Unfortunately, the pump won't start at that rpm, it must be started at full voltage and then dialed down every time the PC is restarted.

I've only been running this setup for about a month now but the whine seems to be diminishing and I frequently don't bother decreasing the voltage at all.
Either I have become acclimated or the pump is "breaking in"(?).

At any rate, you can tune the whine with a Sunbeam fan controller (18w/ channel).
 
That's really good to know. However, like you I've gotten used to the pump noise. I usually run my fans at around the same noise level so it all hums along in harmony .. haha..
 
I am using a Zalman fanmate2 on my pump, and I'm running at 2800rpm, dead silent. And she starts at that voltage no problem. I found full speed to be closer to 4000rpm.
 
this thread has inspired me to 7 volt my apogee drive. I'm going to start a new thread and see what others think.
 
I have a problem here!!!
I have Apogee dirve too and mine is running load and HOT! I cannot even touch the top of it!! I;m only running leak test for 10 minutes and I;m sooo surprised how hot and loud it is.. water in the pump sounds like its boiling!!!
WHAT IS GOING ON???
 
what is your setup? Do you have the 220 kit just hooked up to a cpu?
 
swiftech 2x120 radiator, I bought it separately with drive. It is running leak test loop, nothing cooling right now. Just pump and radiator with t line and fill port.
Now it is silent but temperature still high, very very hot. no fans on radiator and I can feel like rad is warm...
 
UUmmm, why do you not have any fans on the rad??? How is it supposed to cool/draw heat away without fans???
 
L.o.D. said:
UUmmm, why do you not have any fans on the rad??? How is it supposed to cool/draw heat away without fans???
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Dont need fans for now, it is clean loop,nothing to cool down... That is why I'm so worried cause pump is very hot without anything in the loop....


SO now it is silent, but still HOT.. hard to explain how hot it is.. well... the main plastic logo on the pump is coming off, cause the glue under it is melting...:( THAT hot...
 
It must have some sort of short in the pump if it's causing serious heat with nothing to cool in the loop. I'm assuming it is pushing water?
 
phinix said:
Dont need fans for now, it is clean loop,nothing to cool down... That is why I'm so worried cause pump is very hot without anything in the loop....


SO now it is silent, but still HOT.. hard to explain how hot it is.. well... the main plastic logo on the pump is coming off, cause the glue under it is melting...:( THAT hot...
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How long was the pump on for.?
 
But shouldn't the rad be cooling the water that is running through everything?? How would the pump be cool if nothing is cooling anything??
 
Either something in the pump is fried, the rad's trying to cool a lot more heat than the 10 watts the DDC inside would put off, or water isn't flowing correctly (bubble inside the Apogee Drive is my guess).
 
L.o.D. said:
ikellensbro, but how can a fan-less rad cool anything to begin with??
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ok. I can say it one more time.. it is running leak test.. NO NEED OF FANS.... ok...done...
It supposed to be fine, even if I put only pump in the loop with no radiator...
 
L.o.D. said:
ikellensbro, but how can a fan-less rad cool anything to begin with??
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Through passive radiation of heat?

The pump is only dumping 10-20W max into the water, a radiator can passively dissipate that easily.
 
If this is the system shown in the first page pictures, the pump and heat sink are directly on the CPU, correct?
Unless you have somehow devised a way to turn on your system by not using the CPU, of course there will be heat, and lots of it. Unless you cool that down, you will break your CPU.

If you have not mounted the heatsink to the CPU yet and have shorted the PSU to provide power only to the pump, then you have a problem and the pump mechanism is broken.
 
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ok... I fell like noone understands me here... I have two separeted things here - my computer is running separated to the loop. I have a cooler on cpu and all works fine.
To start the watercooling loop to leak test it I plugged it to one of PSU cables 12v. So the loop is running next to the computer, without fans cause those are not needed when I'm not cooling anything right now... Pump is running full speed on 12v cable, without using additional PWM cable to measure speed. ok? That is all.

problem is that pump is running very hot - pump itself. Pump=hot. Not cpu. Pump.
It is like start the pump itself in the small loop with the hose only, filled wth coolant and noticed that pump is getting hot after 10 minutes of running.

I hope now you will know what I'm talking about...
 
well we've said that likely your pump has a problem. My pump running on top of my cpu, cooling the cpu and gpu gets only warm I'd say ... not super hot as you are saying yours is getting when not cooling anything. So there is deffinitely a problem.
 
I think you need to actually measure the temperature of the pump. Some people's idea of "really hot" isn't all that hot actually. The pump will certainly be warm to the touch though.
 
Erasmus354 said:
I think you need to actually measure the temperature of the pump. Some people's idea of "really hot" isn't all that hot actually. The pump will certainly be warm to the touch though.
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yes, I need to measure it. I also sent email to Swiftech asking is that normal...
 
I don't think it is too overpriced. The big HSF players will run you $50-$60. You can get this full kit at Newegg(when they are back in stock) for $145. For that you get a pretty good system that is quiet, cools good, and gives the ability to add the GPU.

Myself, I am waiting for my income tax refund and for them to get back in stock at Newegg and I will pick one up.
 
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