My 6000+ vs the phenom 9500

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If you guys had the choice to bump up from your 6000+ to the phenom, feel that there would be a benefit?

Seems that the 6000 runs faster..But the different arcticles seem to give me mixed signals..

Advise?>
 
Depends. If you are gaming, the 6000+ is plenty fast (unless it is Supreme Commander - that game can't get enough CPU power it seems). If you do things that are multi-threaded (video encoding, etc...), then sure, grab the Phenom, as the extra cores will offset that they are slower cores.

I wouldn't worry about the errata unless you run VMs alot...
 
Firs of all: if you have applied the TLB BIOS patch - you will notice a slowdown in performance of a Phenom processor as opposed to its performance prior for the patch.

Second to all: The 6000+ will outperform a 9500 in most applications that can utilize a single core as obviously its clock speed versus clock speed ONLY when both these processors are in an AM2 motherboard since, as I hope most of you know, a Phenom cannot take advantage of its revised memory management and HyperTransport links in a regular AM2 motherboard. If you have two separate platforms, one AM2 for the 6000+ and one AM2+ for the 9500 - the 9500 will whoop the 6000's ass like no tomorrow.
 
im thinking of upgrading to a 9500 using the ecs-geforce6100 board its a combo on new egg for $240

is this a good upgrade from my current setup in my sig or should i wait till the new steppings are released
or
should i go with the 9600 whats the difference between the 9500 and the 9600?

i will be mainly gaming and browsing the web on this computer
 
I'll say it now as I've said it before - ECS is the absolute WORST motherboard manufacturer on earth; they can take their PC-Chips line and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, not to mention that this particular ECS board will pretty much cripple your processor.

That said - take the M3A series or any of the 790FX series chipset boards; you'll love it.
 
If you guys had the choice to bump up from your 6000+ to the phenom, feel that there would be a benefit?

Seems that the 6000 runs faster..But the different arcticles seem to give me mixed signals..

Advise?>

No.

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It's worth only if you do specific tasks like encoding or rendering.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/19/the_spider_weaves_its_web/page21.html
 
The "error" is only when using virtualization at around 100% usage. The average desktop user has no idea what virtualization is.

It should be the crappy overclocking and low clock speeds that turn you away from the phenoms, not the "errata".
 
I moved from a 5000+BE @ 3GHz to a Phenom 9600 at stock 2.3. I have to say things run smoother with the Phenom. Games load lickity-split, installs are on a par with any quad-core. Don't bother with the TLB Bios patch, it's not necessary for any usual usage. Personally, I'm gad I got the Phenom. For what it's worth. Good luck with your upgrade.
 
exactly.... for most people there would be no advantage in moving to a Phenom over a 6000. (at least at this point in time) It's already been said, but the CPU speed is the thing you need unless you are running extremely intensive multicore apps. And if you're gaming, the GPU is the main factor on your performance at that level.
 
I'll say it now as I've said it before - ECS is the absolute WORST motherboard manufacturer on earth

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You opinion noted, now for the brighter side, I have several ECS machines that I built for family members, all of them are still running perfectly and were cheap to boot, there was no different between an ECS and the other boards I compared it to in Sisoft Sandra.
 
You opinion noted, now for the brighter side, I have several ECS machines that I built for family members, all of them are still running perfectly and were cheap to boot, there was no different between an ECS and the other boards I compared it to in Sisoft Sandra.

Here is another vote for the "ECS sucks - avoid them like the plague". As for the sisoft sandra test - what were you expecting? The on-die memory controller removes the motherboard from that test, so what test were you comparing it on?
 
Here is another vote for the "ECS sucks - avoid them like the plague". As for the sisoft sandra test - what were you expecting? The on-die memory controller removes the motherboard from that test, so what test were you comparing it on?

ECS does not SUCK.

I don't know, I built those machines several months ago. Thanks.
 
ECS does not SUCK.

I don't know, I built those machines several months ago. Thanks.

ECS didn't suck when I had an old K7S5A as well... but all their current crap (including PC-Chips) is absolutely horrible.

Point of case: I handle many of their returned parts that come to me - I test every single one they send back and claim as defective - 85% of what they send me works perfectly fine on every other motherboard - just not theirs.

What does that tell you?
 
ECS didn't suck when I had an old K7S5A as well... but all their current crap (including PC-Chips) is absolutely horrible.

I had a K7S5A as well - hated that board. I'm glad it died after like 3 months so I could justify getting something better :D
 
I'll say it now as I've said it before - ECS is the absolute WORST motherboard manufacturer on earth; they can take their PC-Chips line and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, not to mention that this particular ECS board will pretty much cripple your processor.

That said - take the M3A series or any of the 790FX series chipset boards; you'll love it.

Yes,ECS sucks major balogni. A buddy of mine bought one and it was the worst thing ever. No OC options whatsoever, BIOS total shit, DIMM 2 and 3 were glitchy, known problem. I would much rather spend an extra $50 on a decent mobo.

As far as Phenoms go, I would not switch. It's clock is very low, buggy, overclocking potential is very very limited.
 
I'll say it now as I've said it before - ECS is the absolute WORST motherboard manufacturer on earth; they can take their PC-Chips line and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, not to mention that this particular ECS board will pretty much cripple your processor.

That said - take the M3A series or any of the 790FX series chipset boards; you'll love it.

yeah... ECS can jam their mobos up their date!!

we sometimes buy ECS video cards because they're so cheap, but nothing with ECS would make it onto mine or family/friends pcs. just like how i recommend amd chips but by intel ones for myself atm :p

how can you think in one hand a lovely chip like a phenom and in the other piece of garbage ECS board? why not just mount a 1crt diamond on a ring made of tin...
 
I'll say it now as I've said it before - ECS is the absolute WORST motherboard manufacturer on earth; they can take their PC-Chips line and shove it where the sun doesn't shine, not to mention that this particular ECS board will pretty much cripple your processor.

That said - take the M3A series or any of the 790FX series chipset boards; you'll love it.


I would have disagree here. I worked for a computer wholesaler as a RMA Technician that sold "litrelly" 10'000s of boards while I was there, and the failure rate on PC Chips was lower than Asus. To be fair Asus get thrashed more with noob overclockers etc.

Having said that I would never use a PC Chips in my own rig as they are generally not the best performing boards (but not terrible), I wouldn't hesitate chucking one in a cheap 2nd machine etc.
 
I would have disagree here. I worked for a computer wholesaler as a RMA Technician that sold "litrelly" 10'000s of boards while I was there, and the failure rate on PC Chips was lower than Asus. To be fair Asus get thrashed more with noob overclockers etc.

Having said that I would never use a PC Chips in my own rig as they are generally not the best performing boards (but not terrible), I wouldn't hesitate chucking one in a cheap 2nd machine etc.

He worked for AMD dealing with RMA if you didn't know.
 
ECS does not SUCK.

I don't know, I built those machines several months ago. Thanks.

Not being awesome constitutes suck in todays marketplace. Motherboards have all benchmarked pretty much the same for years now.

That being said, ECS has improved from the ticking timebombs they used to be.
 
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