Qx9650+3GPUS+780SLi+TJ09 WaterCool Project

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Ok Guys, well this will be my first time into water cooling and here is what I have to start with:


Case: Silverstone TJ09BW
PSU: Silverstone Strider 1000w
Mobo: EVGA 780i
CPU: Intel QX9650
Ram: 4x1gb pc8500 Crucial Ballistix
Video Cards: 3x BFG 8800gtx in tri-sli

Money is not really an option, but i dont want to go crazy. I would like some people insights on this. I also might opt up to a larger case like the Lian LI PCV2000B case.
 
We're talking 2 loops at a minimum :eek:

1 loop with a QX9650 and 1 GTX and 1 loop with the other 2 GTX. Both loops will have the following parts :

Thermochill PA120.3
MCP355+DDCT-01s (Petra's top)
Swiftech MicroRes
tubing
D-Tek Fuzion for the CPU block and EK FC8800GTX blocks for the GPU.

Keep in mind that a QX9650 can dissipate close to 200W and each GTX dissipate about 180w each. A PA120.3 will be able to dissipate 500w with moderately loud fans or 400-450w with silent fans.

For the case, keep in mind this and you will be looking at a much bigger case.



 
I would recommend:

1. D-tek Fuzion= $ 49
2. 2 X MCP655 Pumps = $69 each (without speed controller) add $10 for speed controller ones.
3. 2 X 320MCR Swiftech's Radiators = $45 each
4. EK FC8800GTX blocks for GPUs or any thing similar. = $90 each
5. Definately 2 loops
6. 1st Loop CPU + Chipset
7. 2nd Loop All GPUs
8. 1/2" Tubbing
9. Reservoir depends on taste.
10. 6 x 120mm Yaat Loons
11. Fan Controller
12. MCW30 = $25

According to my calculations. i am ordering every thing from Jab-tech. The total is = $650
 
annaconda said:
I would recommend:

1. D-tek Fuzion
2. 2 X MCP655 Pumps.
3. 2 X 320MCR Swiftech's Radiators
4. EK FC8800GTX blocks for GPUs or any thing similar.
5. Definately 2 loops
6. 1st Loop CPU + Chipset
7. 2nd Loop All GPUs
8. 1/2" Tubbing
9. Reservoir depends on taste.
10. 6 x 120mm Yaat Loons
11. Fan Controller
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Beg to differ. A MCR320 cannot handle 3 GTX for sure ;) Even a Thermochill PA120.3 is borderline.

 
Xilikon said:
Beg to differ. A MCR320 cannot handle 3 GTX for sure ;) Even a Thermochill PA120.3 is borderline.
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Any proof :D.


I think it would be just fine, thermochill PA 120.3 in my opinion is over-rated. I mean $130 for a single rad, when you can buy 3 x MCR320s for that price. Not to mention cooling difference is not more than 5-10% the most.
 
thats not to bad, now should i keep this case or go with something else??
 
I suggest ordering some extra tubing and running the 3 cards off the single triple radiator in a test situation and monitor the temperatures. I bet that myself and others here are interested in seeing whether or not a single triple radiator can handle three 8800GTX's as well.
 
I like Xilikon's CPU + 1 GTX + Chipset(s) in one loop and 2 GTXs in the other. Set up like that, you could easily get by with an MCR320 for each loop. If you're willing to fork out the extra $200 for PA120.3's, you will see some lower temps, and while I will be joining others here questioning the value of this, you're also talking about using 3 GTXs when 9800s might be coming out soon.

Since you're probably going to go with full cover blocks, I would really strongly recommend waiting a bit if you can. Those 3 FC blocks will quickly become devalued once 9800s come out, not to mention the 3 GTXs...but it's you're money.

It's going to require some modding in any case, but a TJ-09 will be doable with 2 triple radiators. If you want ultimate ease of use, a Mountain Mods cube will make fitting everything a breeze. Depending on the model, they can take a 120.3 and a 120.2 or another 120.3, internally, with no modding needed. The larger Stackers can also take multiple radiators pretty easily, and there're definitely other choices out there.

Finally, with that much tubing running around, you'll really want to go with 7/16" tubing (with 1/2" barbs) at most. 3/8" tubing is also fine, but that tubing is usually has the same effective bulk as 7/16" tubing with very slightly reduced performance.
 
good point, should I just look at cooling the northbridge and cpu right now?? I also might wait for the Evga FTW model to come out as well.
 
Yes i am totally agree. Just water cool the CPU and chipset.

1. D-tek Fuzion CPU
2. MCP655 PUMP
3. MCR320 RAD
4. RESERVOIR
 
If you want to watercool your GPU's in the future I would look at getting the larger TJ-07 case so you have more room for the second GPU loop when the time comes.
 
Aww, I really wanted to see this done, oh well.

I still require pics.
 
On the case front, if cost is no object and you have a little space look at the Mountain Mods Duality. It has mounting locations for 2 3x120 radiators. If you're gonna go over top there ya go.

Croaker

PS I already have a MM UFO-2 for wc system and love it.
 
Any body have any pictures of TJ09 with couple of MCR320s or PA120.3 in it. Any MOD or any LOG ?
 
I think Darkatom has a pic in the TJ09 thread with a tripple rad on top of his machine.. not sure of the make..

...I agree with the TJ07 would be a more roomy option for multiple loops..
 
Id recommend the TJ-07 as well, its a much nicer case in general in my opinion (although cases are highly personal preference)
 
Well i think dumping a $250 is not a good recommendation. Stick with the case, we will figure it out.
 
well, I don't think we're saying (I am not for sure) it going to be horribly problematic in a TJ09... that case is just better suited for air cooling imo.. it's funny because it's a large case but doesn't have a ton of functional space in the mobo compartment.. plus there's no bottom plate over the psu area to mount stuff.. which doesn't help things.. but if you gut the middle air duct+fan part it does free up some space where you can mount pumps and resevoirs, etc.. you can put a rad up top, inside or out, and hang one on the back also for the 2nd loop. at any rate, should be a fun project, and very doable, you'll just have to get creative on how to fit things...
 
I was thinking about doing something similar, but I was gonna opt for a Mountain Mods UFO case with dual triple rads.
 
Go w/ the UFO if you have the space and don't mind the size (gives you room for AT LEAST 3 loops). Otherwise a TJ07 or V2000/V2100 would be better choices than the TJ09 imo.

Make sure to post some pics!
 
I too agree that fitting two loops into a TJ-09 will be a challenge. DarkAtom seems to have the best setup atm, with a Thermalchill 120.3 on top and a MCR220 mounted inside the case where the top fans go. Note that mounting any double or triple rad inside a TJ-09 will require modification. An alternative setup is a triple rad mounted on the back of the case via a rad box, and either a double or triple rad (although only certain triples will fit) inside the case at the top.

In my opinion, you are better of with a TJ-07 or the Lian Li.

As for the water cooling, are you sure you want to even bother cooling the QX9650? These chips run very, very cool, such that adding a water cooling system to the chip will not significantly expand its OC potential. Of course, the north-bridge is another matter (which makes the FTW a compelling product,) and if you're in it for the looks or the quiet-factor, then by all means go ahead.

Just raising the question, however, as your wc resources may be better used by focusing solely on the three graphics cards.
 
Markyip1 said:
As for the water cooling, are you sure you want to even bother cooling the QX9650? These chips run very, very cool, such that adding a water cooling system to the chip will not significantly expand its OC potential. Of course, the north-bridge is another matter (which makes the FTW a compelling product,) and if you're in it for the looks or the quiet-factor, then by all means go ahead.

Just raising the question, however, as your wc resources may be better used by focusing solely on the three graphics cards.
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I'd say not putting water on the CPU when you already have other loops going is an absolute waste of resources. If you already have the spare radiator capacitance for adding the CPU, a good block is about the same price as a good HSF. Apogee GT's (about 1-2*C below the GTX) are only $42, so it doesn't make much sense not to. Even if it does end up costing more to add the CPU to a loop (getting a 3x120 instead of 2x120, or needing to get an extra 1x120 radiator), the quiet and increased OC potential (you should have lower temps than air) are worth it IMO.
 
tj09 is not going to cut if unless your willing to mount the rad externally
tj07 or v2000/v21000 would be ideal..

I would do two loops and if money is not an object

cpu/northbridge loop = mcp355+petra top with thermochill pa120.3/fuzion/mcw30
gpu loop = mcp355+petra top with thermochill pa120.3 + mcr120 with ek full cover blocks

get whatever res you'd like, I would recommend a t-line to save space esp. with 2 loops but its your first time so..
 
Erasmus354 said:
It modified the inlet position on the pump, dramatically increasing the performance by about 70%
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well there is no statistical data amounting up to 70% but there is a performance/flow increase
a big benefit is the option to add g1/4" thread fittings
 
aldy402 said:
well there is no statistical data amounting up to 70% but there is a performance/flow increase
a big benefit is the option to add g1/4" thread fittings
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Well it improves the free flow characteristics of the pump by almost 70%, your correct when you put it in a loop it isn't 70% better. In fact the mod decreases the max head pressure of the pump.
 
Erasmus354 said:
Well it improves the free flow characteristics of the pump by almost 70%, your correct when you put it in a loop it isn't 70% better. In fact the mod decreases the max head pressure of the pump.
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I understand where your coming from but when dealing with water cooling, We can't provide percentages or specific numbers because each loop is different and there are so many variables in the loop. But I can agree with the max pressure though..

either way.. get the top, its worth it athlonxp
 
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